Harry reid ready to rush through internet sales tax; obama endorses

[thereisnospoon]

Not the point.
The extra cost is borne by the retailer at the expense of the consumer. Those additional costs will be passed along to the end user.

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

Since when is the purpose of a tax to drive business to one area over another?

The simple fact is that the tax and law agencies of one state cannot force a person in another state to act as a tax collector for them.

This is how our federal government functions. it uses taxation to punish, alter behavior and to pick winners and losers. All garbage.

 

[Skull Pilot]

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

Since when is the purpose of a tax to drive business to one area over another?

The simple fact is that the tax and law agencies of one state cannot force a person in another state to act as a tax collector for them.

This is how our federal government functions. it uses taxation to punish, alter behavior and to pick winners and losers. All garbage.

Ham handed social engineering.

 

[Brain357]

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

You do realize that amazon is for this right? They wouldn't be for it unless it benefitted them.

This is just another thing to slow our economy. Everyone will have less money due to more taxes. And this type of tax does more damage to the poor than the rich.

The only reasons I can think Amazon supports this is they are either considering setting up Brick and Mortar locations OR they are building more distribution facilities in more places.

Well what we know for sure is that they decided it will benefit them more than hurt them.

Looking at their website they seem to be in almost 20 states already and I believe they plan to expand. My guess is most their smaller competition is in 1 or 2 states. With this new taxing the smaller competition will lose any advantage they may have had. While Amazon has more incentive to expand. More locations will help them compete with brick and mortar businesses because of shorter shipping times.

 

[Jroc]

like Amazon.com?


like zappos.com?


like Exxon?


Like Wall Street hedge fund managers?



I did. It said 'Halliburton'.



Thanks for making my point, dope.

What point was that idiot? You point out your selected ones you don't like. I said all, doesn't matter to me who it is. That's why the tax code needs reform..Understand moron? I don't think you do, because you're a clown

You said you are against 'special tax breaks for this company, that company, etc.' while defending these special tax breaks for internet companies.

Like I said: you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

No special tax deals for anyone... Get it Bozo? Creating more government bureaucracy isn't going to help anyone

 

[RoadVirus]

The federal government has NO BUSINESS injecting itself into this issue.
This is for the states to handle.

So true, but the Federal Government can't help itself. For the last 5 years the government has been inching it's way into every aspect of our lives.

 

[RoadVirus]

Yeah, watching so many so-called 'Conservative' Republicans supporting this, is truly disappointing. All that whining about things being unfair and so on. They sound exactly like the Socialist/Progressive Entitlement moochers. The only real loser in this debacle, is the American Taxpayer. No real Conservative could possibly support this. The Republican Party is such a mess. It's very sad.

We have to admit that most of the Republicans are no Conservatives, mainly they come across as "liberal-lite". I think the only reason so many real conservatives vote republican is because they are afraid that no third party can overcome the democrat party juggernaut.

The GOP establishment has become infested with 'big tent go along to get along/we must act more as democrats to be liked' assholes who are more interested in keeping their seats than behaving as statesmen.

And a good chunk of those types are the old geezers of the party (McCain for instance).

 

[Synthaholic]

Not the point.
The extra cost is borne by the retailer at the expense of the consumer. Those additional costs will be passed along to the end user.

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

You do realize that amazon is for this right? They wouldn't be for it unless it benefitted them.

This is just another thing to slow our economy. Everyone will have less money due to more taxes. And this type of tax does more damage to the poor than the rich.

You show me where Amazon is for this.

 

[Synthaholic]

You're another fucking idiot who doesn't know how sales tax works.

If I sell to a guy in CA I have to know what the tax rate is, collect the money at purchase and then at the end of the month file and remit payment. That means setting up at least 50 different sales tax accounts and filing in 50 states every month.



I happen to collect sales tax for my state and I think I know how it works better than you.

You're the fucking idiot who doesn't seem to know how the tax collected at the point of sale gets paid to the fucking government did you think it was magic?

The retailer is responsible for remitting the tax every month or quarter along with whatever forms each state and/or municipality requires.

As I said I am pressed into service as a tax collector. It's bad enough i have to do it for my state and the feds for free but no other state has the right to press me into service with no compensation.

You have the balls to call others stupid and you don't know jack shit about running a business or what's involved just like our fucking idiot president.

If you are doing at least $1 million in internet sales each year, you can be bothered to use the software that they will provide to calculate/pay this.

The fucking government does not provide businesses with accounting software you fucking moron.

You, and that gallantwarrior motherfucker, are a couple of stupid sons of bitches.






The current version of S.743, however, lacks those protections. Small sellers with no profits could be subject to audits in dozens of states. Each of the nearly 10,000 local tax jurisdictions could specify a different tax rate. Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...net-sales-tax-bill-jolts-consumers-retailers/

 

[Synthaholic]

Not the point.
The extra cost is borne by the retailer at the expense of the consumer. Those additional costs will be passed along to the end user.

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

Since when is the purpose of a tax to drive business to one area over another?

The simple fact is that the tax and law agencies of one state cannot force a person in another state to act as a tax collector for them.

I have already shown in this thread that the tax-free status was instituted in order to spur internet shopping.

So:

Since when is the purpose of tax-free to drive business to one area over another?

 

[Synthaholic]

What point was that idiot? You point out your selected ones you don't like. I said all, doesn't matter to me who it is. That's why the tax code needs reform..Understand moron? I don't think you do, because you're a clown

You said you are against 'special tax breaks for this company, that company, etc.' while defending these special tax breaks for internet companies.

Like I said: you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

No special tax deals for anyone... Get it Bozo? Creating more government bureaucracy isn't going to help anyone

Tax-free status is a special tax deal, retard.

 

[Skull Pilot]

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

Since when is the purpose of a tax to drive business to one area over another?

The simple fact is that the tax and law agencies of one state cannot force a person in another state to act as a tax collector for them.

I have already shown in this thread that the tax-free status was instituted in order to spur internet shopping.

So:

Since when is the purpose of tax-free to drive business to one area over another?

The internet was never given tax free status.

The simple fact is that if you buy an item in a state that has no sales tax then you don't pay it. Period.

If a state wants to collect tax for purchases in other states then they can set up their own customs stations at their borders. A state cannot compel a resident of another state to collect taxes for them.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you are doing at least $1 million in internet sales each year, you can be bothered to use the software that they will provide to calculate/pay this.

The fucking government does not provide businesses with accounting software you fucking moron.

You, and that gallantwarrior motherfucker, are a couple of stupid sons of bitches.






The current version of S.743, however, lacks those protections. Small sellers with no profits could be subject to audits in dozens of states. Each of the nearly 10,000 local tax jurisdictions could specify a different tax rate. Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

Looming Internet sales tax bill jolts consumers, retailers | Politics and Law - CNET News

Again you have the balls to call others stupid.

You demonstrate your ignorance at every turn.

State software for sales tax is nothing but a way to pay on line. It does not integrate with accounting programs like quick books etc.

Why don't you open a business and learn something.

 

[Brain357]

And consumers will look at that cost and say, hell I can buy that for the same price locally" and do so, helping their neighbors, their community, their state, rather than Jeff Bezos and his multi-billion dollar empire.

You do realize that amazon is for this right? They wouldn't be for it unless it benefitted them.

This is just another thing to slow our economy. Everyone will have less money due to more taxes. And this type of tax does more damage to the poor than the rich.

You show me where Amazon is for this.

Here check this out. I think it explains everything pretty well:
In Sales Tax Fight, Amazon Hands Baton to eBay - NYTimes.com

 

[Jroc]

You said you are against 'special tax breaks for this company, that company, etc.' while defending these special tax breaks for internet companies.

Like I said: you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

No special tax deals for anyone... Get it Bozo? Creating more government bureaucracy isn't going to help anyone

Tax-free status is a special tax deal, retard.

You're a clown...Can people have an intelligent conversation with a clown? I think not, your pea brain can't comprehend

 

[Synthaholic]

The fucking government does not provide businesses with accounting software you fucking moron.

You, and that gallantwarrior motherfucker, are a couple of stupid sons of bitches.






The current version of S.743, however, lacks those protections. Small sellers with no profits could be subject to audits in dozens of states. Each of the nearly 10,000 local tax jurisdictions could specify a different tax rate. Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

Looming Internet sales tax bill jolts consumers, retailers | Politics and Law - CNET News

Again you have the balls to call others stupid.

You demonstrate your ignorance at every turn.

State software for sales tax is nothing but a way to pay on line. It does not integrate with accounting programs like quick books etc.

Why don't you open a business and learn something.

You said:

The fucking government does not provide businesses with accounting software you fucking moron.

I just showed that they do:

Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

Typically, you lack the balls to admit it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You, and that gallantwarrior motherfucker, are a couple of stupid sons of bitches.






The current version of S.743, however, lacks those protections. Small sellers with no profits could be subject to audits in dozens of states. Each of the nearly 10,000 local tax jurisdictions could specify a different tax rate. Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

Looming Internet sales tax bill jolts consumers, retailers | Politics and Law - CNET News

Again you have the balls to call others stupid.

You demonstrate your ignorance at every turn.

State software for sales tax is nothing but a way to pay on line. It does not integrate with accounting programs like quick books etc.

Why don't you open a business and learn something.

You said:

The fucking government does not provide businesses with accounting software you fucking moron.

I just showed that they do:

Businesses would also have to figure out how to handle the complexity of integrating as many as 46 state government-supplied software packages into Web ordering systems.

Typically, you lack the balls to admit it.

It's not accounting software that is part of a POS system that tracks taxable sales.

neither the federal government nor the state supplies software to businesses so as to pay sales tax.

All that's available is on line payment which takes just as long as filling out a paper form.

Like I said, you don't know shit about running a business.