Guns making you safer - at least 20 shot in Texas Uni party

[CWayne]

A gun-free zone, no doubt.

in Texas???!!!

Yes, in Texas. In case you missed it, Texas is a very large state with lots of differing ideas. It isn't homogenous.

Gun free zones seem to be an absurd idea when they arent backed up by meaningful sanctions.

They are absurd, period. Anyone who wishes to implement a gun-free zone should be required to do 18 months in a county lockup.

1. they don't care if it's firearm '''free'' or not--they will shoot up the place anyway
2. if not, they will go somewhere else
3. the ''gun free'' zones are so petty arguments don't turn into shootouts/etc

It isn't. If people are encouraged to shoot back at the first sign of a bad guy going crazy, you'll see a lot less of this, and that only happens when there are no gun-free zones.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Its was a "twerk or treat "....80 % probability it was skanky white girls, chicas and black bitches .
Meaning tons of brothers

They're jumping the gun in the uk on this one ..more than likely it wasn't a white guy screaming die " racial slurs"

A white guy would of got more than 2 dead ..and no one wants to talk to police ? ....ghetto GAngsta move. Theyre scared of this guy ...a apparently we know as to why

That's the u.ks future x 100
It's only gonna get worse than it is now

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If conservatives were smart they wouldn’t take Tommy’s bait.

But conservatives aren’t smart.

 

[CWayne]

If conservatives were smart they wouldn’t take Tommy’s bait.

But conservatives aren’t smart.

Yet, here you are.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Aren't you glad you don't live here?

**** off.

Ive always enjoyed my visits to the US. But it isnt somewhere we would bring up kids. Its far too dangerous.

Actually, America has a lot lower homicide rate than most places. We just have an outstanding communication system so people find out about our killings more timely. Nations like Mexico, Brazil, El Salvador have many more killings.

Thank you. I would not live in those places either.

 

[hjmick]

Yes indeed, folks looking to make hay before all the facts are known... keep up the good work children.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

A gun-free zone, no doubt.

in Texas???!!!

Yes, in Texas. In case you missed it, Texas is a very large state with lots of differing ideas. It isn't homogenous.

9th out of 50 pro-firearm states--that's really high
doesn't matter if it's ''gun free zone or not'' ...cops get killed...soldiers have '''guns''
Best Gun Friendly States in 2018

People get killed by bad people in every corner of this world.

Amen and if a gun isn't the weapon of choice, something else will be used.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Polishprince]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Aren't you glad you don't live here?

**** off.

Ive always enjoyed my visits to the US. But it isnt somewhere we would bring up kids. Its far too dangerous.

Actually, America has a lot lower homicide rate than most places. We just have an outstanding communication system so people find out about our killings more timely. Nations like Mexico, Brazil, El Salvador have many more killings.

Thank you. I would not live in those places either.

America is of course a massive country, very huge.

As long as you avoid the killing fields of the failed, major cities like Chicago, Detroit or East St.Louis, you should be ok. As a general point, being careful on streets named after Martin Luther King is a good rule of thumb.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

And?

Is there a point here s0n?

I think the point is....when America becomes like Communist Utopia Britain all of your rights, privacies, personal properties, and associations will be monitored closely. At that point, everything will be perfect.

 

[Maxdeath]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Much better to have the bodies in the back of a smi like they do in the U.K. right?!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Its was a "twerk or treat "....80 % probability it was skanky white girls, chicas and black bitches .
Meaning tons of brothers

They're jumping the gun in the uk on this one ..more than likely it wasn't a white guy screaming die " racial slurs"

A white guy would of got more than 2 dead ..and no one wants to talk to police ? ....ghetto GAngsta move. Theyre scared of this guy ...a apparently we know as to why
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That's the u.ks future x 100
It's only gonna get worse than it is now

Yep. They're avoiding any description of the shooter. They're not listing the victims. Clearly they're hiding the race factor as long as they can.

 

[Dekster]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Aren't you glad you don't live here?

**** off.

Ive always enjoyed my visits to the US. But it isnt somewhere we would bring up kids. Its far too dangerous.

Not really unless your kids are black males, gang members, drug dealers, emotionally retarded hotheads, or hang out with nut cases.

 

[2aguy]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Used a handgun.....in a gun free zone..... Likely gang related incident......

Meanwhile, the other side of the equation....600 million guns in private hands in the U.S. were not used for any crime. Also, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent criminals and save lives.

If you can do the math......that means Americans with legal guns save more lives than criminals with guns take.....guns save lives......

And had someone at the party been armed, lives could have been saved.....

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Police originally said the gunman used a rifle but later said the shooter used a 9mm handgun.

The event was a Halloween party called #Twerkortreat and was not a sanctioned event by the university - which is 16 miles away from where the shooting happened.

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

 

[2aguy]

as 2AGuy would say: ''''how can this happen?? Texas is a pro-'gun' state'''
'''people use ''guns''' for 50 MILLION self defense uses''''''
....so--with more firearms, people CAN'T get murdered/etc because they are armed for self defense--according to 2AGuy ..?????!!!!
hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahah
lovin it

Since that isn't what I say, you reveal yourself to be a dumb ass.....this is what I say......

Used a handgun.....in a gun free zone..... Likely gang related incident......

Meanwhile, the other side of the equation....600 million guns in private hands in the U.S. were not used for any crime. Also, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent criminals and save lives.

If you can do the math......that means Americans with legal guns save more lives than criminals with guns take.....guns save lives......

And had someone at the party been armed, lives could have been saved.....

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Police originally said the gunman used a rifle but later said the shooter used a 9mm handgun.

The event was a Halloween party called #Twerkortreat and was not a sanctioned event by the university - which is 16 miles away from where the shooting happened.

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

 

[2aguy]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

That is almost every weekend in Chi-town...

...very pro-gun St Louis has a much higher murder rate than Chicago--and higher than LA and New York

And the reason St. Louis has such a high gun murder rate is the democrat policy of releasing violent gun offenders.......you know this and hide it because you are an asshat....

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia

Soros-Funded St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner Refuses to Charge Killer of 7-Year-Old Child Despite Suspect's Confession

Last week a suspect was arrested in the fatal shooting of 7-year-old Xavier Usanga in north St. Louis last Monday evening.

According to KSDK Usanga was shot and killed while playing outside of his Hyde Park home Monday, according to St. Louis Metro Police Cheif John Hayden. An 18-year-old man standing nearby was injured in the backyard of the Usangas’ home, in the 3500 block of North 14th Street, just after 5 p.m. Monday evening.

The suspect confessed to the shooting that killed 7-year-old Usanga.


But when they brought this confession and evidence to the St. Louis City’s circuit attorney’s office Kim Gardner threw it out.

Gardner said based on current evidence she was not able to determine who was responsible for the child’s death.

Again… The suspect confessed to the crime but that was not enough for this radical lunatic in the Circuit Attorney’s Office.
Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

 

[2aguy]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Aren't you glad you don't live here?

**** off.

Ive always enjoyed my visits to the US. But it isnt somewhere we would bring up kids. Its far too dangerous.

Britain is more dangerous and getting more violent...it is currently more violent than the U.S......

 

[2aguy]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

Aren't you glad you don't live here?

**** off.

Ive always enjoyed my visits to the US. But it isnt somewhere we would bring up kids. Its far too dangerous.

Actually, America has a lot lower homicide rate than most places. We just have an outstanding communication system so people find out about our killings more timely. Nations like Mexico, Brazil, El Salvador have many more killings.

Thank you. I would not live in those places either.

America is of course a massive country, very huge.

As long as you avoid the killing fields of the failed, major cities like Chicago, Detroit or East St.Louis, you should be ok. As a general point, being careful on streets named after Martin Luther King is a good rule of thumb.

Let me shorten that for you...

As long as you avoid democrat party controlled voting districts.....

Analysis | The surprising way gun violence is dividing America

In the most Democratic regions, gun violence is more often committed against another, crimes that probably generate more news coverage and fear. In the most Republican areas, it is more often committed against oneself, suicides that may not attract as much attention.

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As the below charts show, Democratic areas (measured by the party that controls the congressional district) are far more likely to experience almost all forms of malicious gun violence than Republican areas.

 

[2aguy]

And?

Is there a point here s0n?

I think the point is....when America becomes like Communist Utopia Britain all of your rights, privacies, personal properties, and associations will be monitored closely. At that point, everything will be perfect.

Except for the increasing violent crime.......they can't stop that....

 

[harmonica]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

That is almost every weekend in Chi-town...

...very pro-gun St Louis has a much higher murder rate than Chicago--and higher than LA and New York

And the reason St. Louis has such a high gun murder rate is the democrat policy of releasing violent gun offenders.......you know this and hide it because you are an asshat....

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia

Soros-Funded St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner Refuses to Charge Killer of 7-Year-Old Child Despite Suspect's Confession

Last week a suspect was arrested in the fatal shooting of 7-year-old Xavier Usanga in north St. Louis last Monday evening.

According to KSDK Usanga was shot and killed while playing outside of his Hyde Park home Monday, according to St. Louis Metro Police Cheif John Hayden. An 18-year-old man standing nearby was injured in the backyard of the Usangas’ home, in the 3500 block of North 14th Street, just after 5 p.m. Monday evening.

The suspect confessed to the shooting that killed 7-year-old Usanga.


But when they brought this confession and evidence to the St. Louis City’s circuit attorney’s office Kim Gardner threw it out.

Gardner said based on current evidence she was not able to determine who was responsible for the child’s death.

Again… The suspect confessed to the crime but that was not enough for this radical lunatic in the Circuit Attorney’s Office.
Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

your favorite quote: '''how can this happen''???
hahahahahahhaahahaha
Texes is a very pro-firearm state!!
'''how can this happen?'''

 

[2aguy]

Texas shooting - Two dead and 10 injured as gunman opens fire at university homecoming party

Chief Deputy Buddy Oxford told reporters they believe the shooter used a semi-automatic rifle and he is still at large.

Mr Oxford said his identity is unknown and there is not clear motive at this time.

Americas teens deserve better than being used for target practice.

That is almost every weekend in Chi-town...

...very pro-gun St Louis has a much higher murder rate than Chicago--and higher than LA and New York

And the reason St. Louis has such a high gun murder rate is the democrat policy of releasing violent gun offenders.......you know this and hide it because you are an asshat....

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia

Soros-Funded St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner Refuses to Charge Killer of 7-Year-Old Child Despite Suspect's Confession

Last week a suspect was arrested in the fatal shooting of 7-year-old Xavier Usanga in north St. Louis last Monday evening.

According to KSDK Usanga was shot and killed while playing outside of his Hyde Park home Monday, according to St. Louis Metro Police Cheif John Hayden. An 18-year-old man standing nearby was injured in the backyard of the Usangas’ home, in the 3500 block of North 14th Street, just after 5 p.m. Monday evening.

The suspect confessed to the shooting that killed 7-year-old Usanga.


But when they brought this confession and evidence to the St. Louis City’s circuit attorney’s office Kim Gardner threw it out.

Gardner said based on current evidence she was not able to determine who was responsible for the child’s death.

Again… The suspect confessed to the crime but that was not enough for this radical lunatic in the Circuit Attorney’s Office.
Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

-----------

Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

your favorite quote: '''how can this happen''???
hahahahahahhaahahaha
Texes is a very pro-firearm state!!
'''how can this happen?'''

Wow......you started drinking early........Chicago, Balitmore, St. Louis, Washington D.C are extreme gun control cities...you doofus and higher gun mruder rates than Houston.....dumb ass....