Gun control...

[Rustic]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Once again a no gun zone in a high gun regulation place has resulted in the people following the law being unarmed and ill prepared for the person that didn’t care about those laws.

 

[Rustic]

Crazy/violent people are drawn to places that have strict gun control laws exactly… Obviously

https://nypost.com/2018/11/08/thousand-oaks-was-third-safest-city-in-us-before-mass-shooting/

 

[Erinwltr]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

 

[Rustic]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

 

[francoHFW]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

Maybe if we had a mental health system and a background check system and real laws against illegal clips and conversion to automatic kits....

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

 

[Rustic]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

Na, not really
No amount of frivolous gun control laws would ever stop any of these shootings...
But it doesn’t matter ar15’s are here to stay...

 

[OKTexas]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

Maybe if we had a mental health system and a background check system and real laws against illegal clips and conversion to automatic kits....

Yeah, because criminals and the insane are soooooooo concerned about breaking laws. LMAO

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[Rustic]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

Maybe if we had a mental health system and a background check system and real laws against illegal clips and conversion to automatic kits....

Fuck face...

 

[OKTexas]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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[Rustic]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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Don’t bother, Daryl has no idea what the difference is....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

Maybe if we had a mental health system and a background check system and real laws against illegal clips and conversion to automatic kits....

We already HAVE a background check and it is illegal to convert a weapon to full auto already.

 

[Issa]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

Availability of guns....Bangladesh, Morocco, Belgium, Scotland, Australia, Guinea, and doz2ns of other countries dont have mass shootings or thousands of dead people because of guns are super hard to get.

 

[Rustic]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

Availability of guns....Bangladesh, Morocco, Belgium, Scotland, Australia, Guinea, and doz2ns of other countries dont have mass shootings or thousands of dead people because of guns are super hard to get.

Irrelevant
In Other countries they have no right to own firearms, hell they don’t even have the right to freedom of speech

 

[OKTexas]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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Don’t bother, Daryl has no idea what the difference is....

He'd know if he were hit by one.

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[Daryl Hunt]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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That means he must have been even better with the weapon. He had less ammo since he had fewer rounds per mag. But he was a Combat Veteran Marine so there is no doubt he was an Expert with that weapon. Far beyond the experience that the Rexall Rangers in here.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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Don’t bother, Daryl has no idea what the difference is....

He'd know if he were hit by one.

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Please don't feed the Rexall Ranger Troll. He still thinks the AR-15 wouldn't make a good account for itself in a firefight.

 

[OKTexas]

No amount of frivolous gun control laws would’ve done anything about this latest shooting, along with every other of these shootings… Shit happens... people kill people firearms can not...

Thank God we have President Trump and the senate controlled by pro second amendment enthusiasts...

Most likely trump will be able to nominate 2 maybe three more justices... Protecting your Second Amendment rights for at least another generation...

I'll say it again. The Shooter was a Combat Veteran Marine. The Body Count (including his) was 13. He did that with a single 9mm. The best a normal shooter could do with the same weapon has been from 2 to 7. But that wasn't a normal shooter. Saying that having an armed person in the crowd would have made a difference is shown to be false when two armed cops with guns drawn entered, one was killed and other retreated dragging his partner out of the building and the killing continued. The Combat Veteran Marine did not have easy access to an AR-15 and a bunch of 30 shot mags and he used what he had which was a 9mm and a bunch of lower capacity mags. Had he brought what he was most familiar with (an AR-15 and 5 30 round Mags) he could have easily made the body count exceed 100 giving him the new all time record. And that would have been without a bump stock. In this case, the Gun Regs saved lives. Yes, 12 innocents did die but that probably could not have been prevented in any way that I can see.

Now, how can the AR-15 have such a high body count as compared to a 9mm? The dance floor is packed with almost 200 people. They are packed almost tight. The 9mm will kill or would a person with each round. The AR-15 is going to kill or wound at least 3 people deep in the same situation. Plus, you have the same number of mags. Meaning, you have the 9mm at 10 rounds and the AR at 30 rounds. So you have 60 rounds of 9mm versus 180 AR rounds. Even if every 9mm round found each individual person (and that won't happen because there will be some misses and some multiple hits) the most you can get is 60 kills. Meanwhile, if the AR only hits 1/3rd of the time, there will be 180 kills because each round that hits will also hit 2 other bodies.

And remember, you aren't talking about any run of the mill shooter here. You are talking about a Combat Veteran Marine who even two cops can't go up against.

In this case, the banning of the AR and the high capacity mags did make a difference. Yes, there were 12 innocent lives lost but it could have been more than 100 with the caliber of shooter involved had he had easy access to an AR and 30 round mags. Gun Regulation does work. You save the lives you can.

BTW, he used a .45 not a 9mm.

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That means he must have been even better with the weapon. He had less ammo since he had fewer rounds per mag. But he was a Combat Veteran Marine so there is no doubt he was an Expert with that weapon. Far beyond the experience that the Rexall Rangers in here.

The vast majority of the people in the military never train or qualify with a handgun.

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[Daryl Hunt]

Your Buddies just love you, Rusty. How much more posts are you gonna manufacture from your BS Factory?

Maybe if we had a mental health system and a background check system and real laws against illegal clips and conversion to automatic kits....

We already HAVE a background check and it is illegal to convert a weapon to full auto already.

We don't have Universal Background Checks. There are so many ways around it in many states, what's the use in even having it in the first place. In 2013, we went to universal background checks where even private sales had to go through a gun dealer to run the back ground check. It is locked at a whopping 7 bucks for the charge and takes about 15 minutes. This includes gun shows. At a gun show, there are always a number of gun dealers with computers set up that can take the couple of minutes to make that 7 bucks. After 3 really nasty shootings, things had to change and this was just one of them. And I can still buy a gun with no waiting except for thee 15 minutes while the background check is processed. I can buy enough ammo to satisfy myself at any gun range with no waiting. I can still buy any semi auto rifle right off the shelf with just a signature and an ID. And the Sun will still come up in the Morning for MOST of us.