In terms of presidential greatness, it's Trump by a wide margin. Clinton/Biden/0bama are dead last.

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Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time. This puts him clearly in the #1 spot for wartime presidents, given his other victories this year. I had already thought he achieved it, but some believed he still trailed Lincoln. In terms of the economy, it's Trump hands down and has been for some time. Today, he is on schedule to rack up his 158th record DJIA high close. Incredible. The runner up, Clinton, has 92 in eight years and those were all due to the 104th and 105th Congresses.. 0bama, as you would expect was the worst overall, closely rivaled by Biden and Clinton.

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He wins the award for most felony convictions too. Obviously, Mt. Rushmore bound.
 
Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time. This puts him clearly in the #1 spot for wartime presidents, given his other victories this year. I had already thought he achieved it, but some believed he still trailed Lincoln. In terms of the economy, it's Trump hands down and has been for some time. Today, he is on schedule to rack up his 158th record DJIA high close. Incredible. The runner up, Clinton, has 92 in eight years and those were all due to the 104th and 105th Congresses.. 0bama, as you would expect was the worst overall, closely rivaled by Biden and Clinton.

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Guys, I think this recent victory in Iran sealed it for President Trump as the Greatest of All Time.
What victory is that? Sounds a lot like capitulation to me. Benedict Donald. The American Flip-Flopper in Chief.

"It's not that Benedict Donald is the worst president in American history; it's that he's the worst human being ever to occupy the national stage."
 
13 killed? Any idea how many Americans died in FDR's war? 416,000. Yet you leftwingers call him a hero. I would say Trump now is officially the greatest wartime president of all time.
If 13 is so insignificant, why all the condemnation of Biden, who lost 13 soldiers not in combat with the Taliban, but to an ISIS terrorist attack, during the Afghan evacuation? Recall one of the conditions that Donnie ignored for our withdrawal was that the Taliban wouldn't allow any terrorist organization operate from Afghanistan soil.
 
The alternate universe is real.
Speaking of alternate universes:

It's like you guys pretending somehow that Kamala was a better businessperson than Trump because of his bankruptcies. That's like saying someone who never played baseball was better than Sandy Koufax because he lost 87 games.
 
Give it a rest, troll.

History will move trump to the back of the list, or possibly just erase his association as POTUS completely.

It's embarrassing.
Don't speak that way about a man who has raised your net worth 7% in 5.5 months. Show some gratitude!
 
If 13 is so insignificant, why all the condemnation of Biden, who lost 13 soldiers not in combat with the Taliban, but to an ISIS terrorist attack, during the Afghan evacuation? Recall one of the conditions that Donnie ignored for our withdrawal was that the Taliban wouldn't allow any terrorist organization operate from Afghanistan soil.
Because Biden was an inept fool who botched that evacuation?
 
Trump gets stuff done, and no other potus comes close.

Thats what really heats the left, combined with the fact Trump calls them out for being dumb and evil, and deep down they know he's right.
 
Because Biden was an inept fool who botched that evacuation?
The evacuation was planned and executed by the US military. Why do MAGAS hate the military so much while pretending to support them?

Senator Warren: (02:01:15) By 2021, it was clear that 2,500 troops could not successfully prop up a government that had been losing ground and support to the Taliban for years....... Once President Biden made the decision to have US forces leave the country who designed the evacuation?

Sec. Austin: (02:01:55) ........So, once he made the decision, then of course, from a military perspective, in terms of the retrograde of the people and the equipment, that planning was done by Central Command, and certainly principally, by General Miller. Very detailed planning, and then we came back and briefed the entire interagency on the details of that plan.

Senator Warren: (02:03:03) Okay. So the military planned the evacuation. Did President Biden follow your advice on executing on the evacuation plan?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:12) He did.

Senator Warren: (02:03:15) Did President Biden give you all the resources that you needed?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:21) From my view, he did.

Senator Warren: (02:03:22) Did President Biden ignore your advice on the evacuation at he point?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:30) No Senator, he did not.

Senator Warren: (02:03:32) Did he refuse any request for anything that you needed or asked for?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:37) No. Senator Warren: (02:03:38).....if we had stayed in Afghanistan for another year, would it have made a fundamental difference?

Sec. Austin: (02:04:05) Again, it depends on what size you remain in at, and what your objectives are. There are a range of possibilities, but if you stayed there at a forced posture of 2,500, certainly you'd be in a fight with the Taliban, and you'd have to reinforce yourself.
 
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Trump gets stuff done, and no other potus comes close.

Congress set records in 2025, some more dubious than others​

Republican lawmakers reflect on a year that continued legislative atrophy while ceding more power to the White House.

The Republican-led Congress managed to land quite a few achievements in 2025, but not necessarily the ones that lawmakers consider commendable.

With fewer than 40 bills signed into law as of Monday, the House and Senate set a modern record for lowest legislative output in the first year of a new presidency, according to data maintained by C-SPAN and Purdue University.

 
Don't speak that way about a man who has raised your net worth 7% in 5.5 months. Show some gratitude!
The Markets have risen since Bush.
Trump gets no more credit than any other recent POTUS.
Trump gets stuff done, and no other potus comes close.

Thats what really heats the left, combined with the fact Trump calls them out for being dumb and evil, and deep down they know he's right.
What stuff?

This is just more smokescreen.
What has "He got done"
 
Trump gets stuff done, and no other potus comes close.

Thats what really heats the left, combined with the fact Trump calls them out for being dumb and evil, and deep down they know he's right.
What has he gotten done that's been good for you or the average American???
 
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The evacuation was planned and executed by the US military. Why do MAGAS hate the military so much while pretending to support them?

Senator Warren: (02:01:15) By 2021, it was clear that 2,500 troops could not successfully prop up a government that had been losing ground and support to the Taliban for years....... Once President Biden made the decision to have US forces leave the country who designed the evacuation?

Sec. Austin: (02:01:55) ........So, once he made the decision, then of course, from a military perspective, in terms of the retrograde of the people and the equipment, that planning was done by Central Command, and certainly principally, by General Miller. Very detailed planning, and then we came back and briefed the entire interagency on the details of that plan.

Senator Warren: (02:03:03) Okay. So the military planned the evacuation. Did President Biden follow your advice on executing on the evacuation plan?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:12) He did.

Senator Warren: (02:03:15) Did President Biden give you all the resources that you needed?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:21) From my view, he did.

Senator Warren: (02:03:22) Did President Biden ignore your advice on the evacuation at he point?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:30) No Senator, he did not.

Senator Warren: (02:03:32) Did he refuse any request for anything that you needed or asked for?

Sec. Austin: (02:03:37) No. Senator Warren: (02:03:38).....if we had stayed in Afghanistan for another year, would it have made a fundamental difference?

Sec. Austin: (02:04:05) Again, it depends on what size you remain in at, and what your objectives are. There are a range of possibilities, but if you stayed there at a forced posture of 2,500, certainly you'd be in a fight with the Taliban, and you'd have to reinforce yourself.
That's easy. Austin was a sycophantic Biden DEI hack.
 
That's easy. Austin was a sycophantic Biden DEI hack.
He was not the principle designer of the evacuation plan, that was General Milley, a General appointed by Benedict Donald. All of MAGA knows Benedict Donald is the best judge of people, especially his generals! Right?
 
What has he gotten done that's been good for you or the average American???
Yeah, that's the thing. They equate chaos, noise, trolling, insults and carnage with "getting things done".

Look at the abject global chaos he has created in 18 months. From the tariff fiasco to Greenland/Denmark to Gaza to Canada to Iran to the ongoing destruction of American government institutions. And actual improvements? He's sealed the border, that's good. The market hit new highs, but it also did for Clinton, Dubya, Obama and Biden.

The rest is just a shitshow/vanity crashout/revenge tour of monumental proportions. Now we just had the American White House desecrated with Trailer Park Fight Night™. Holy crap.

And he's made us a global goddamn pariah in the process. All credibility gone. All of the soft power we've built over 80 years, gone. America alone. Humiliated.

But he's "done a lot", that's for sure! Can't argue with that!

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