Growing Need

[Unkotare]

You can't teach them anything if they can't understand the teacher, ...

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You can teach them to understand the teacher better and better as they learn everything else.

 

[OKTexas]

It would be in my state.

ICE operates in all States under federal jurisdiction, not State laws. Your State can pound sand.

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[Unkotare]

DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATA TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM?

Majority of English-Learner Students Are Born in the United States, Analysis Finds

The U.S.- and foreign-born children grow up learning English in school while also hearing and speaking one of more than 350 languages used in the United States at home.

www.edweek.org

10 Assumptions to Rethink About English-Language Learners - Northwest AEA

English-language learners are among the fastest-growing populations in our schools. They comprise about 10 percent of the student population across the nation and about six percent of the student population in Iowa. At Northwest AEA, we serve around ...

www.nwaea.org

 

[OKTexas]

You can teach them to understand the teacher better and better as they learn everything else.

If they can't understand the teacher from the start, they shouldn't be in school till they can. It's a distraction for other students and it slows the pace in the classroom which is a disservice to the other students.

 

[Unkotare]

6 facts about English language learners in U.S. public schools

English language learners in U.S. K-12 public schools are a diverse group from many different states and native language backgrounds.

www.pewresearch.org

Report Reveals 1 in 10 American Students Are English Language Learners | Carnegie Corporation of New York

www.carnegie.org

 

[Unkotare]

If they can't understand the teacher from the start, they shouldn't be in school till they can. It's a distraction for other students and it slows the pace in the classroom which is a disservice to the other students.

If freshmen in high school don't know algebra from the start, they shouldn't be in school till they can. How dare they waste our time and money teaching them math, science, history, etc.

 

[OKTexas]

If freshmen in high school don't know algebra from the start, they shouldn't be in school till they can. How dare they waste our time and money teaching them math, science, history, etc.

Shove your strawman BS, the topic is language, not core subjects.

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[Unkotare]

ICE operates in all States under federal jurisdiction, not State laws. Your State can pound sand.

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ICE is all over the place here, but schools don't keep that kind of information. Kicking in the doors of every K-12 student in the country would not be the most productive use of time.

 

[Unkotare]

Shove your strawman BS, the topic is language, not core subjects.

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Sorry to poke holes in your emo position.

 

[Leo123]

Again, THE MAJORITY OF ESL STUDENTS IN AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. How many times do I have to repeat this?

Then why can't they speak American English? I mean if they're born here.

 

[OKTexas]

Sorry to poke holes in your emo position.

You didn't poke holes in anything, your trying to derail your own thread because people disagree with you on the language topic. And ICE can get the school records to identify ESL students. It just takes a federal warrant.

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[Unkotare]

Then why can't they speak American English? I mean if they're born here.

English may not be the language spoken at home. They may live in a community where news, music, sports, entertainment, etc. are all readily available in a language other than English. No law says you have to speak English to be a US citizen. Really.

 

[Unkotare]

Then why can't they speak American English? I mean if they're born here.

It's not a requirement to BE a citizen.

 

[Unkotare]

... And ICE can get the school records to identify ESL students. It just takes a federal warrant.

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Schools don't collect such records so they can't provide them, warrant or not.

 

[Leo123]

It's not a requirement to BE a citizen.

I never said it was however, there is a reason your students want to learn it isn't there?

 

[Leo123]

English may not be the language spoken at home. They may live in a community where news, music, sports, entertainment, etc. are all readily available in a language other than English. No law says you have to speak English to be a US citizen. Really.

IMO not teaching your children American English while living in America puts a burden on them. I am well aware it is not a legal requirement.

 

[Unkotare]

I never said it was however, there is a reason your students want to learn it isn't there?

Many.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I have to wonder about the commitment to be an American citizen if a parent hasn't even seen to it that their child can even speak.

We are supposed to be a melting pot society, but that can't work if people refuse to melt.

 

[Unkotare]

IMO not teaching your children American English while living in America puts a burden on them. I am well aware it is not a legal requirement.

That's one reason (among others) parents send their children to school to learn English (among other things).

 

[Unkotare]

I have to wonder about the commitment to be an American citizen if a parent hasn't even seen to it that their child can even speak.

We are supposed to be a melting pot society, but that can't work if people refuse to melt.

Walk a mile.