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Maybe it's harsh to say you don't care. But not so harsh to say that requiring new immigrants to learn English and to learn English at THEIR expense or via a responsible sponsor should be the rule.

It is discriminatory in my opinion that only Spanish speaking students should be accommodated in the public schools at taxpayer expense when there are thousands of languages spoken on Earth. And even if we go with the major languages, it is still unreasonable to require the public schools to be equipped to teach Chinese, Spanish, French, Hindi or whatever.

Prior to 1968, I suppose there were some schools that already had proficient Spanish teachers that accommodated a large influx of Cuban refugee students but those were isolated incidents. For the most part new immigrants were to either be self sufficient and competent in English when they arrived or have private sponsors who would walk them through the assimilation process including finding tutors to teach them English.

That should still be the general rule.

I was very young but privileged to help our Church in West Texas sponsor a wonderful Cuban refugee family. Cuban born people are very rare in West Texas. We started out with my very limited Santa Fe street Spanish and our Pastor's French, English to Spanish books and vice versa but this was extremely tedious to help the family, a mother, father and two elementary age children become fluent.

We located a family immigrated from Mexico who did speak Spanish and they agreed to help and helped enormously even though their Mexican dialect varied at times from the Castilian Spanish the Cubans spoke. But work ethic and determination is the key to doing anything difficult and all the Cubans were speaking decent English within the year and the kids were able to go to public school and were quite successful there. Both the parents were college educated in Cuba and by the time they were sworn in as citizens, the father soon qualified to be certified to teach in the public schools and the mom became a school librarian.

We should expect new immigrants to be that kind of asset to America and not a burden on the taxpayers.


It's way past the time to be harsh, in fact ICE should be visiting the parents of ESL students to ensure they are in the country legally. They claim there are close to 160 languages spoken in Houston, are we supposed to pay for teachers that speak that many languages?

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... That should be the law for the benefit of everybody including those who need to learn English.
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And how exactly would you enforce such a law?
 
...They claim there are close to 160 languages spoken in Houston, are we supposed to pay for teachers that speak that many languages?

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No, why?
 
It's way past the time to be harsh, in fact ICE should be visiting the parents of ESL students to ensure they are in the country legally. ...

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That would be illegal.
 
School aged Americans should already know the language. If they don't, that's the parents responsibility, not mine.

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And if they don't know algebra? Kick 'em to the curb for that one too? Why the hell should I pay to teach them chemistry if they don't already know it before they get to school?

Or maybe, I don't know, teach them what they need to know?
 
And how exactly would you enforce such a law?
I specified that in my earlier post. We should not accept immigrants who do not have the capability and/or resources to learn reasonably competent English within a reasonable time on their own. And those here temporarily or otherwise who do not speak/read reasonably competent English should not be allowed to drive or operate other equipment that could endanger people.

Non English speakers already here and cannot be deported we have to deal with, but we don't have to keep adding to them.
 
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Visitors, new immigrants, or even citizens who have not yet become sufficiently proficient in English should not have drivers' licenses or otherwise be permitted to drive or otherwise operate vehicles/equipment ...

You know the learner's permit written test is available in a number of languages, right?
 
I specified that in my earlier post. We should not accept immigrants who do not have the capability and/or resources to learn reasonably competent English within a reasonable time on their own. And those here temporarily who do not speak/read reasonably competent English should not be allowed to drive or operate other equipment that could endanger people.

Non English speakers already here, we have to deal with, but we don't have to keep adding to them.
Or maybe we can subtract from them by teaching them English. Better for everyone, right?
 
I specified that in my earlier post. We should not accept immigrants who do not have the capability and/or resources to learn reasonably competent English within a reasonable time on their own. And those here temporarily or otherwise who do not speak/read reasonably competent English...

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Define "reasonably competent." There is already a (pretty easy) test for naturalization that includes demonstrating some degree of facility with English.
 
I specified that in my earlier post. We should not accept immigrants who do not have the capability and/or resources to learn reasonably competent English within a reasonable time on their own. And those here temporarily or otherwise who do not speak/read reasonably competent English should not be allowed to drive or operate other equipment that could endanger people.

Non English speakers already here and cannot be deported we have to deal with, but we don't have to keep adding to them.

Tourism nets the US over $20 million annually.
 
And if they don't know algebra? Kick 'em to the curb for that one too? Why the hell should I pay to teach them chemistry if they don't already know it before they get to school?

Or maybe, I don't know, teach them what they need to know?


You can't teach them anything if they can't understand the teacher, it's the parents responsibility to ensure the kid can do that before they send them to school.

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