Great President Trump takes action on EMP attack or strike on U.S. electrical infrastructure.

[LoneLaugher]

Nutbags LOVE to talk about what they will do if our society is ruined and it's every man for himself.

Why? Because they have no concept of what it is that makes this nation great.

 

[daveman]

Nutbags LOVE to talk about what they will do if our society is ruined and it's every man for himself.

Why? Because they have no concept of what it is that makes this nation great.

Technology is invisible to most people. They simply don't have any idea what makes their civilization work.

 

[2aguy]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

You think those chips would never be replaced? Older cars will still run just fine. Museums will be raided down to the nubs.

My old pickup is a 1995 Chevy C1500.

It has at least two microprocessor modules in it. How many old vehicles do you think there are in runable condition?

And the millions of people in the cold in a nano second?

 

[2aguy]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

And not just a nuke attack, as pointed out, a bad solar flare could do just the same thing.....and I would like the left wingers here explain to us which America hating, SJW left wing President would have the stones to order the hated U.S. military to kill millions of Russians, Chinese, or North Koreans in retaliation........

 

[Tehon]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



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The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?

Clinton signed into law the establishment of the EMP Commission. That is what my link references.

 

[deanrd]

Lose billions" To WHO ? Where is this imaginary debt owed ? European bankers ? Nuke their asses

I see you don't understand what a EMP is, or what the results would be.
Please educate yourself on this subject, I'm not going to paste it together for you.

It will knock out all things electric. We will go black and nothing electronic will work hence major problem. We will be unable to protect our country. Moron


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You underestimate America

Have you ever thought about taking a science class?

What If the Biggest Solar Storm on Record Happened Today?

Could the Sun give off an EMP that could knock out the power grid on Earth?

Don’t need to. Not a hard concept and a lot more of a danger then you think.


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Wow. People that don’t need school because they just know things always amaze me.

 

[deanrd]

Well. The EMP would fuck us up a little. We're Americans. Problem solved pretty quick.Far faster than fake news bleats.

Proactive and reactive have two entirely different time lines.

Reactive rules...hence WW2 and the industrial revolution. We smoked them ALL....it took a crises for motivation. Still will

Seriously? You do realize of all the collateral damage done to the economy, right?
Why create a catastrophe and have to lose billions if not trillions, when some
foresight could make it near seamless.
You do have quite the neanderthal mentality, Likkmee

Look at the incredible cost of just the World Trade Center attack. It devastated the economy. An EMP attack would DESTROY the nation. Tards refuse to take it seriously.

What the Republicans did to the country after the attack on the World Trade Center was way more costly. Multiple times more costly.

 

[Rustic]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

Cow farts are the most dangerous...

 

[Crepitus]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

I'm not against protecting the grid. I said right at the start we should be much more concerned about a large solar flare. They are certain to happen sooner or later as opposed to a very remote maybe on the EMP bomb.

 

[2aguy]

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

I'm not against protecting the grid. I said right at the start we should be much more concerned about a large solar flare. They are certain to happen sooner or later as opposed to a very remote maybe on the EMP bomb.

Yes....protecting the grid only makes sense.

 

[daveman]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

You think those chips would never be replaced? Older cars will still run just fine. Museums will be raided down to the nubs.

My old pickup is a 1995 Chevy C1500.

It has at least two microprocessor modules in it. How many old vehicles do you think there are in runable condition?

And the millions of people in the cold in a nano second?

They're going to starve to death in the cold, surrounded by mountains of garbage and shit. Water and sewer utilities aren't going to work, either.

 

[daveman]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



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The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?

Clinton signed into law the establishment of the EMP Commission. That is what my link references.

Uh huh. So what did he actually accomplish towards the goal? What did Bush do? What did Obama do?

A signed law is like a restraining order. It doesn't do anything when the shit goes down.

 

[Tehon]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



Homepage

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?

Clinton signed into law the establishment of the EMP Commission. That is what my link references.

Uh huh. So what did he actually accomplish towards the goal? What did Bush do? What did Obama do?

A signed law is like a restraining order. It doesn't do anything when the shit goes down.

It created the framework of knowledge for future development. Trump's E.O. would be meaningless without the prior forethought to address the problem.

 

[daveman]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



Homepage

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?

Clinton signed into law the establishment of the EMP Commission. That is what my link references.

Uh huh. So what did he actually accomplish towards the goal? What did Bush do? What did Obama do?

A signed law is like a restraining order. It doesn't do anything when the shit goes down.

It created the framework of knowledge for future development. Trump's E.O. would be meaningless without the prior forethought to address the problem.

Are you trying to claim NO ONE before Clinton's signature ever gave any thought to the threat of an EMP attack, or did so after only because he created a commission?

Wow.

Yeah, thanks, Bill. Your signature saved Western civilization.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What some people dont seem to realise is that those large power transformers take up to two years to build and we import 85% of them.
Most of us would be dead before we even took delivery.

 

[Tehon]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



Homepage

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?

Clinton signed into law the establishment of the EMP Commission. That is what my link references.

Uh huh. So what did he actually accomplish towards the goal? What did Bush do? What did Obama do?

A signed law is like a restraining order. It doesn't do anything when the shit goes down.

It created the framework of knowledge for future development. Trump's E.O. would be meaningless without the prior forethought to address the problem.

Are you trying to claim NO ONE before Clinton's signature ever gave any thought to the threat of an EMP attack, or did so after only because he created a commission?

Wow.

Yeah, thanks, Bill. Your signature saved Western civilization.

No, I'm not claiming that.

My only goal was to try and dislodge the OP's head from up Trump's ass.

I had no idea that there was enough room for you up there as well.

 

[hjmick]

I recommend the books by William R. Forstchen, sometimes called the One Second After Trilogy.

One Second After, One Year After, and The Final Day

All very good at depicting life after and EMP attack on the U.S.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

Russia and/or China would no longer exist except as a nuclear wasteland and the rest of world would be dying in a nuclear winter.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A couple of decades ago I read articles that if we spent an extra five billion dollars we can harden electrical grids against an EMP attack. I do not know the cost today. But if the factories can still be open after an attack and retooled we can produce parts at least to make parts destroyed under an EMP attack to work again.

Recovery from a hurricane strike soaks up a lot of manufacturing resources just in replacing transformers.

Now figure that every piece of construction equipment is microprocessor controlled. Every aircraft, every locomotive, every towboat, every 18-wheeler. All would be inoperable until the electronics were replaced. Every railway and air traffic control center...dead. Every internet hub, every data center, every personal device...all useless junk.

The factories you think can be retooled? Nope. All CNC machines would be trashed. No way to build the microprocessors that run everydamnthing.

It's incredibly short-sighted to think our technological civilization can simply recover from an EMP. You'll be heating your house with cow dung and telling your kids stories about when food was easily and readily available.

Kudos to President Trump for having more foresight than his predecessors.

Everyone would likely already be dead or dying if Russia or China counterattacked.

I still have no evidence that the North Koreans can even get evan a relatively small nuclear weapon to it's target via a ballistic missile, much less an EMP weapon above the US.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

How are they going to get it there without our knowing? Any launches would immediately be detected and a full nuclear response initiated.