Great President Trump takes action on EMP attack or strike on U.S. electrical infrastructure.

[JimBowie1958]

Seriously? You do realize of all the collateral damage done to the economy, right?
Why create a catastrophe and have to lose billions if not trillions, when some
foresight could make it near seamless.
You do have quite the neanderthal mentality, Likkmee

Do you mind leaving us Neanderthals out of this?

 

[daveman]

Well. The EMP would fuck us up a little. We're Americans. Problem solved pretty quick.Far faster than fake news bleats.

Proactive and reactive have two entirely different time lines.

Reactive rules...hence WW2 and the industrial revolution. We smoked them ALL....it took a crises for motivation. Still will

The Industrial Revolution was transformational -- but did not cost us the basis of civilization and millions of lives.

WWII cost millions of lives, but did not destroy the basis of civilization.

Destruction of the nation's power grid would do both.

 

[daveman]

A couple of decades ago I read articles that if we spent an extra five billion dollars we can harden electrical grids against an EMP attack. I do not know the cost today. But if the factories can still be open after an attack and retooled we can produce parts at least to make parts destroyed under an EMP attack to work again.

Recovery from a hurricane strike soaks up a lot of manufacturing resources just in replacing transformers.

Now figure that every piece of construction equipment is microprocessor controlled. Every aircraft, every locomotive, every towboat, every 18-wheeler. All would be inoperable until the electronics were replaced. Every railway and air traffic control center...dead. Every internet hub, every data center, every personal device...all useless junk.

The factories you think can be retooled? Nope. All CNC machines would be trashed. No way to build the microprocessors that run everydamnthing.

It's incredibly short-sighted to think our technological civilization can simply recover from an EMP. You'll be heating your house with cow dung and telling your kids stories about when food was easily and readily available.

Kudos to President Trump for having more foresight than his predecessors.

 

[Meister]

A couple of decades ago I read articles that if we spent an extra five billion dollars we can harden electrical grids against an EMP attack. I do not know the cost today. But if the factories can still be open after an attack and retooled we can produce parts at least to make parts destroyed under an EMP attack to work again.

Recovery from a hurricane strike soaks up a lot of manufacturing resources just in replacing transformers.

Now figure that every piece of construction equipment is microprocessor controlled. Every aircraft, every locomotive, every towboat, every 18-wheeler. All would be inoperable until the electronics were replaced. Every railway and air traffic control center...dead. Every internet hub, every data center, every personal device...all useless junk.

The factories you think can be retooled? Nope. All CNC machines would be trashed. No way to build the microprocessors that run everydamnthing.

It's incredibly short-sighted to think our technological civilization can simply recover from an EMP. You'll be heating your house with cow dung and telling your kids stories about when food was easily and readily available.

Kudos to President Trump for having more foresight than his predecessors.

Couldn't have said it better, Dave.
Whether it a solar flare or an attack, it would be massive.
Just think about the banking system that is dead....holy cow

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

You think those chips would never be replaced? Older cars will still run just fine. Museums will be raided down to the nubs.

 

[theHawk]

I would be more worried about the riots that would happen afterwards. Dems have this country divided by identity politics. It would devolve into “the purge” scenario.

 

[2aguy]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

 

[2aguy]

A couple of decades ago I read articles that if we spent an extra five billion dollars we can harden electrical grids against an EMP attack. I do not know the cost today. But if the factories can still be open after an attack and retooled we can produce parts at least to make parts destroyed under an EMP attack to work again.

Recovery from a hurricane strike soaks up a lot of manufacturing resources just in replacing transformers.

Now figure that every piece of construction equipment is microprocessor controlled. Every aircraft, every locomotive, every towboat, every 18-wheeler. All would be inoperable until the electronics were replaced. Every railway and air traffic control center...dead. Every internet hub, every data center, every personal device...all useless junk.

The factories you think can be retooled? Nope. All CNC machines would be trashed. No way to build the microprocessors that run everydamnthing.

It's incredibly short-sighted to think our technological civilization can simply recover from an EMP. You'll be heating your house with cow dung and telling your kids stories about when food was easily and readily available.

Kudos to President Trump for having more foresight than his predecessors.

One only hopes this doesn't encourage one of those monsters to do this before we have time to fix the problem......colonization of this country and its resources is a dream for them.....and the dweebs in Europe wouldn't be able to back us up or help us as the Russians sailed over here, or the Chinese......the Chinese could give a sub to the little moron in North Korea and have him launch the missile.......and again, a SJW President wouldn't have the stones to kill billions of Russians or Chinese as a deterrent...and they know it...

 

[Tehon]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



Homepage

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Well. The EMP would fuck us up a little. We're Americans. Problem solved pretty quick.Far faster than fake news bleats.

Not really, they just don't have a stock pile of transformers sitting around the electric company.

 

[Crepitus]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

 

[Meister]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

 

[deannalw]

This is a real threat.....an extinction level event for our country if it were to ever happen......and now, finally, one President is taking action...hopefully it isn't too late.....

One EMP detonation over the U.S. could kill 90% of the U.S. population......think losing all power during the winter...how many would die?

Long Overdue Action on EMP

It potentially could wipe out all electrical systems, effectively disabling the United States. Some estimate that an EMP attack could kill 90 percent of Americans. A number of countries, including Russia, China and North Korea, are believed to have the ability to detonate weapons creating one or more EMPs over the U.S.

Better late than never. Many observers believe that EMP weapons represent the greatest threat to the security of the U.S. and the lives of Americans. This appears to be one more instance where the Obama administration, obsessed with politics and with a largely anti-American agenda, did nothing to protect the American people but rather kicked yet another can down the road.

Not to worry! We got windmills.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

Far more people could potentially be killed from an emp than direct nuclear blast. With all the money we spend on "defense", this is a no brainer. It is the best use of resources. Glad we finally have a common sense president.

 

[deannalw]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

Wrong.....that would take a President willing to order the deaths of millions of people....not one SJW who already blames the U.S. for the worlds ills would have the stones to launch a retaliatory strike.....if they even knew for sure who launched it....

And from what I have read, they only have to do it over a specific area of the U.S. to knock out the entire eastern side of the country...do that in December.....and you have a massive die off of millions and millions of people in the cold.....no heat, no food, no gas, and no way to repair it in any amount of time that would matter...

If a nuclear bomb exploded over the US there is no question there would be retaliation. Only a major power would have a bomb big enough so we would definitely know where it came from. Your first point is just dumb.

Second point, nobody even knows it will work. If they have a bomb big enough to have a chance why would they not just do the sure thing and slag Washington? Makes no sense to even try.

The bomb wouldn't hit the ground....it's exploded in the upper atmosphere for maximum impact of grid destruction. It wouldn't take very many.

By the way, why in the fuck would anyone be against the US protecting the grid?
Are you all that much of hating Trump that you can't bring yourself to protect America
from a solar flare or an attack? sheesh

It would be a genius idea if the prez was democrat.

 

[deannalw]

EMP is an overrated danger. Better to worry about a large solar flare, it's much more likely to happen.

You learned that in science class?

Think about it, anyone who did it would be starting a nuclear war. The same "mutually assured destruction" narrative holds.

Also, it would be purely experimental. Nobody has ever done any testing on the strength or efficacy of high altitude EMP. We don't know if it will work, or how well it will work, or the optimal altitude for effective yield or really anything. Why would they take that chance when they could slag New York?

It's a red herring.

No one knew if the nuke would work either.

But we tried it and worked.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

It would be a genius idea if the prez was democrat

I would support a Democrat who would do this.

 

[deannalw]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

You think those chips would never be replaced? Older cars will still run just fine. Museums will be raided down to the nubs.

I have an older car out there that would still work.

I could use it to pull the plow in my vegetable garden

 

[daveman]

Without electricity, no fuel, no refrigeration for food or medicine. It is predicted that 90% of all Americans would die in 6 months. Then the invading armies from Russia, China and the hordes from the south.

Thank God we have a president who takes these things seriously.

You think those chips would never be replaced? Older cars will still run just fine. Museums will be raided down to the nubs.

My old pickup is a 1995 Chevy C1500.

It has at least two microprocessor modules in it. How many old vehicles do you think there are in runable condition?

 

[daveman]

Finally! What would we do without President Trump Clinton?



Homepage

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

1. the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
2. the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
3. the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
4. the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

So what did Clinton, Bush, or Obama do about it?