Great McCain Quote On Healthcare

[Orange_Juice]

ROTF! This should play well!

McCain on banking and health - Paul Krugman - Op-Ed Columnist - New York Times Blog


Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.

So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago — and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry!

 

[rayboyusmc]

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition

He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. That's the way it has been operating for many years.

It's like giving MSAs as a solution to someone who doesn't have a job.

 

[Ravi]

McDoof strikes again. That is extremely funny.

 

[xsited1]

We need to get the government out of the markets. They caused the Great Depression and they caused the mess we're in now. Bloated governments are always bad for the average taxpayer.

 

[Orange_Juice]

We need to get the government out of the markets. They caused the Great Depression and they caused the mess we're in now. Bloated governments are always bad for the average taxpayer.

You are like an outdated machine whose progarming is stuck spewing out yesterday's propaganda. Rush , Hannity and Bill-O will have to develop a new line of bull shit to fill your head with

 

[Mad Scientist]

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago — and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry!

So you still want Government health care? I use my private insurance exclusively. I'm a vet and I never use the VA for reasons that should be obvious to everyone. Government health care will be the same as the banking mess.
How is that government Social Security going for ya'? Goin' broke and will institute some sort of "means testing" to deny you your benefits when you retire.
How's that Medicare and Medicaid doin'? Goin' broke by allowing everyone to get in on it including illegal aliens.
Even with the markets in total meltdown mode I would still trust my money and investments to the open market over some federally regulated or guaranteed institution. The private sector has a much better record of returns that the government does.

 

[Orange_Juice]

So you still want Government health care? I use my private insurance exclusively. I'm a vet and I never use the VA for reasons that should be obvious to everyone. Government health care will be the same as the banking mess.
How is that government Social Security going for ya'? Goin' broke and will institute some sort of "means testing" to deny you your benefits when you retire.
How's that Medicare and Medicaid doin'? Goin' broke by allowing everyone to get in on it including illegal aliens.
Even with the markets in total meltdown mode I would still trust my money and investments to the open market over some federally regulated or guaranteed institution. The private sector has a much better record of returns that the government does.

SS, Medicare and the VA are fine. They are not going broke at all

 

[rayboyusmc]

They caused the Great Depression and they caused the mess we're in now.

What?????????????? Deregulation and leaving the industry with no government checks of balances caused the mess were in.

CEOs can just as crooked as you or me. Unfortunately, their crimes screw all of US.

 

[Mad Scientist]

SS, Medicare and the VA are fine. They are not going broke at all

You're being facetious right?
Trustees Report Summary

The financial condition of the Social Security and Medicare programs remains problematic. Projected long run program costs are not sustainable under current financing arrangements. Social Security's current annual surpluses of tax income over expenditures will begin to decline in 2011 and then turn into rapidly growing deficits as the baby boom generation retires. Medicare's financial status is even worse. This year Medicare's Hospital Insurance (HI) Trust Fund is expected to pay out more in hospital benefits and other expenditures than it receives in taxes and other dedicated revenues. The difference will be made up from general revenues which pay for interest credits to the Trust Fund. Growing annual deficits are projected to exhaust HI reserves in 2019 and Social Security reserves in 2041. In addition, the Medicare Supplementary Medical Insurance (SMI) Trust Fund that pays for physician services and the prescription drug benefit will continue to require general revenue financing and charges on beneficiaries that grow substantially faster than the economy and beneficiary incomes over time. The financial difficulties facing Social Security and Medicare pose enormous challenges. The sooner these challenges are addressed, the more varied and less disruptive their solutions can be. We urge the public to engage in informed discussion and policymakers to think creatively about the changing needs and preferences of working and retired Americans. A national conversation and timely political action are essential to ensure that Social Security and Medicare continue to play a critical role in the lives of all Americans.
By the Trustees:

Henry M. Paulson, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
and Managing Trustee

More at the link.

Medicare is facing cuts.
Medicaid bears brunt of states' budget crunch | csmonitor.com

Facing budget deficits, two of the nation's most populous states, California and New York, are proposing changes in Medicaid that could affect the eligibility of hundreds of thousands of people or decrease funding for hospitals, doctors, dentists, and pharmacists.
Last month, California cut reimbursements to providers by 10 percent. With the legislature deadlocked over the budget, some healthcare facilities are now close to bankruptcy since no money is flowing to providers.
Other states are tacking on fees or cutting funds for charity care in hospitals. And, as more states face falling tax revenues, there could be more cuts by this fall.
"Medicaid is very much in jeopardy," says Iris Lav, deputy director at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington.

 

[midcan5]

You are like an outdated machine whose progarming is stuck spewing out yesterday's propaganda. Rush , Hannity and Bill-O will have to develop a new line of bull shit to fill your head with

That is so true, the conservative echo chamber needs new echos, after a while the same old nonsense gets old. But then Sarah Palin lies about the bridge to nowhere over and over again and you think maybe aliens have taken over their bodies.

 

[xsited1]

You are like an outdated machine whose progarming is stuck spewing out yesterday's propaganda. Rush , Hannity and Bill-O will have to develop a new line of bull shit to fill your head with

That's funny how you're comparing me to neoconservatives who support bigger government. Did you mean to contradict yourself?

 

[user_name_guest]

We are stuck with "lesser than the two evils" in this Election like the others we have in the past. We need to fix Medicare (fraud cases are rising). We need to fix Social Security (more money going out than coming in). We need to declare the bailouts last week unconstitutional (let the markets do their jobs and punish us for our stupidity). We need to elect a qualified candidate than the ones we are stuck with (Obama or McCain, or ObaCain). They are in Washington now, what have they done since the last election? Have they changed Washington? If so, then why is Congress approval rating near the gutter. They can't lead the Senate, how are they going to lead our nation. If this is our leaders in the Senate, they should be accountable for the recent events. They appointed Bush's nominee Paulson for a Cabinet seat. This former Wall-Street exec. seems to be the center of the bailouts.

 

[Chris]

Every other Western democracy uses a single payer system, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare. Americans are stupid. They would rather be screwed by the liability lawyers, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma than use a system that works better and cheaper.

 

[user_name_guest]

Every other Western democracy uses a single payer system, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare. Americans are stupid. They would rather be screwed by the liability lawyers, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma than use a system that works better and cheaper.

Do you trust our government can implement such a system when other government programs have problems that need to be fixed? With the recent bailouts, we can't afford a single payer health care system. Unless of course, we tax everyone. Not just the rich but every single American. They are looking at one trillion dollars of taxpayers money going to save Wall Street. Where are the democrats or republicans to stop this socialism for the rich?

 

[Red Dawn]

"Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation. " -- JOHN MCCAIN

Okay, so McCain admits he spent the last decade deregulating banking, and look what the ultimate result was.

 

[Silence]

does he even know what he's saying half the time?

 

[Diuretic]

We need to get the government out of the markets. They caused the Great Depression and they caused the mess we're in now. Bloated governments are always bad for the average taxpayer.

I think you might find that the markets have welcome government assistance this week.

 

[xsited1]

I think you might find that the markets have welcome government assistance this week.

At a terrible cost.