Government routinely violates the separation of church and state.

[jacksonlamb]

I didnt interpret anything,, I provided undeniable proof what you said is wrong,,

you have provided nothing but opinion,,

No, you did not. Go in peace.

 

[progressive hunter]

No, you did not. Go in peace.

are you going to provide proof of your claim or not??

 

[jacksonlamb]

The above is typical of MAGA.

The want their own facts and interpretation of their own facts, regardless of what the actual facts may be.

This is what KellyAnne Conway called alternate facts.

In our democratic republic, such is unacceptable.

 

[progressive hunter]

The above is typical of MAGA.

The want their own facts and interpretation of their own facts, regardless of what the actual facts may be.

This is what KellyAnne Conway called alternate facts.

In our democratic republic, such is unacceptable.

we are a constitutional republic not a democratic republic,,

are you ever going to back up your claim with some kind of proof or are you going to run away again?/

 

[jacksonlamb]

we are a constitutional republic not a democratic republic,,

are you ever going to back up your claim with some kind of proof or are you going to run away again?/

Our constitutional government is based on representation chosen by democratic procedures, a system of voting rules to elect representatives.

 

[progressive hunter]

Our constitutional government is based on representation chosen by democratic procedures, a system of voting rules to elect representatives.

"constitutional government"?? dont you mean our constitutional republic??


the people would have needed to vote to make us a republic to be a democratic republic,,
a republic by definition has a democratic process in it so saying that is redundant,,

we are a constitutional republic because its the constitution that guarantees us a republic form of government and it was ratified by the states not the people,,

are you going to back up your earlier claim or not??

 

[jacksonlamb]

"constitutional government"?? dont you mean our constitutional republic??


the people would have needed to vote to make us a republic to be a democratic republic,,
a republic by definition has a democratic process in it so saying that is redundant,,

we are a constitutional republic because its the constitution that guarantees us a republic form of government and it was ratified by the states not the people,,

are you going to back up your earlier claim or not??

They did back in 1787. We are a Republic where the representatives are chosen democratically. This is a fact.

Whether you like it means nothing.

 

[progressive hunter]

They did back in 1787. We are a Republic where the representatives are chosen democratically. This is a fact.

Whether you like it means nothing.

yes that is a fact,,
that doesnt make us a democratic republic for the reasons I have already given you,
it by definition makes us a constitutional republic because its the constitution that makes us a republic not a democratic process,,

are you going to back up your earlier claim or not??

 

[jacksonlamb]

yes that is a fact,,
that doesnt make us a democratic republic for the reasons I have already given you,
it by definition makes us a constitutional republic because its the constitution that makes us a republic not a democratic process,,

are you going to back up your earlier claim or not??

I have backed it up. The system proves my point.

That you disagree is meaningless and disappears like a breeze.

 

[progressive hunter]

I have backed it up. The system proves my point.

That you disagree is meaningless and disappears like a breeze.

your opinion is not proof,,

if what you say is true and we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

 

[jacksonlamb]

your opinion is not proof,,

if what you say is true and we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

Your denial is meaningless.

 

[progressive hunter]

Your denial is meaningless.

that didnt answer my question,,

if what you say is true and we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

 

[jacksonlamb]

that didnt answer my question,,

if what you say is true and we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

Your comments on the topic are meaningless.

 

[progressive hunter]

Your comments on the topic are meaningless.

that was a question not a comment,,

why are you so afraid to answer such a simple question??

 

[jacksonlamb]

that was a question not a comment,,

why are you so afraid to answer such a simple question??

What was the question? Do not enclose an opinion as a question.

 

[progressive hunter]

What was the question? Do not enclose an opinion as a question.

if we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

 

[jacksonlamb]

if we have a separation of church and state does that mean a preacher can not run for elected office??

Since he is a preacher as a private profession, he certainly can run for office.

Just like a milk man.

Or a criminal felon like Trump.

 

[progressive hunter]

Since he is a preacher as a private profession, he certainly can run for office.

Just like a milk man.

Or a criminal felon like Trump.

so we have no separation of church and state,,

have a nice day,,

 

[jacksonlamb]

so we have no separation of church and state,,

have a nice day,,

Of course we do. There is no integration of church and state.

 

[progressive hunter]

Of course we do. There is no integration of church and state.

no one ever said there was,, one is called government and one is called church,,

now if a preacher is elected POTUS and uses his beliefs as a frame work for actions he takes it is perflecty fine,,

on the otherhand due to the 1st amendment the government can not go into a church and dictate what the church preaches or doesnt preach,,

if thats what you mean by separation of church and state you would be correct,,