GOP has 60% chance of taking back Senate in 2014

[Contumacious]

Now let's see.....what will be shakey's next step once he out-Marxes Karl? I can't see "him" as a Stalin - far too skinny.

While I do think Jake is a fake GOPer, he's not a Marxist. He's just a big-government liberal slightly less socialist than Obama.

And that's the basis for why my brothers, sister, and I did so well in the private sector.

You were a XXXXXX

Once again, regulated capitalism is not socialism.

Correct.

It is fascism.

Once again, ACA is not socialism.

Once again, correct. It is fascism.

The far right may not have its own definitions and be taken credibly.

True, again Can not trust the right OR the left.

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[bendog]

Simple fact:

"Moderate" Republicans are simply Democrat lite. Obama can count upon them to whine a little about His agenda before caving in and giving Him all he wants.

If we accept that running conservative candidates rather than RINOs might result in Democrats staying in control then there is really no appreciable difference in the outcome. It's just that with a Democrat majority it might give Him what He wants a day or two sooner than He'd get the same thing with a "Republican" majority in which a goodly percentage are Republican In Name Only.

Electing either an outright Democrat majority or a de-facto Democrat majority (big Democrat minority plus enough useful idiot RINOs) is still national suicide.

Maybe you see no difference between people choosing HC insurance in a market, even with subsidies levied on providers and the passive earnings of the super rich, and single payor, but I do. I'd rather see some limits on immigration with a pathway to citizenship as opposed to the current chaos.

But carry on runnign fools who can't win.

 

[HenryBHough]

Maybe you see no difference between people choosing HC insurance in a market, even with subsidies levied on providers and the passive earnings of the super rich, and single payor, but I do. I'd rather see some limits on immigration with a pathway to citizenship as opposed to the current chaos.

But carry on runnign fools who can't win.

Wooosssshhhhhh!

The whole point that you're gonna get all that stuff you claim not to want by electing a few RINOs flew right overhead. You're gonna get it anyway, just a day or two later if the shift is actually to the right rather than pretending there's any shift.

The pain just isn't yet sufficient for some "can't we just get along" types. Of course it is an open question whether there is any level of pain sufficient to awaken them or whether, should they awaken, whether correction will be at all possible without civil war.

 

[bendog]

Maybe you see no difference between people choosing HC insurance in a market, even with subsidies levied on providers and the passive earnings of the super rich, and single payor, but I do. I'd rather see some limits on immigration with a pathway to citizenship as opposed to the current chaos.

But carry on runnign fools who can't win.

Wooosssshhhhhh!

The whole point that you're gonna get all that stuff you claim not to want by electing a few RINOs flew right overhead. You're gonna get it anyway, just a day or two later if the shift is actually to the right rather than pretending there's any shift.

The pain just isn't yet sufficient for some "can't we just get along" types. Of course it is an open question whether there is any level of pain sufficient to awaken them or whether, should they awaken, whether correction will be at all possible without civil war.

No whhhhoooosh. It's an anathema to the gop to raise taxes to subsidize HC for workers who don't have it. We had polls on that in 2008, and the gop lost with the dems polling over 60%. Immigration the same thing.

There's a difference between dems and those you call Rinos. But carry on.

 

[HenryBHough]

Think of yourself as a lobster.

Do you prefer to be dunked into cold water which is then heated killing you slowly and with ever-increasing pain (voting in RINO handmaidens to real Democrats)?

Or would you prefer to be plunged into boiling water and die immediately (allowing "real" Democrats to do what Democrats do without a day or two delay waiting for RINO capitulation)?

Because......without electing some genuine conservatives those are your only choices.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

 

[HenryBHough]

What but a Democrat would refer to the threat blunder that is Obamacare as "ACA"?

OK, an idiot might but odds favour it having been a Democrat.

 

[Contumacious]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

I get your drift.

Now That you parasitic fuckers constitute 50% of the electorate , you will not permit that.

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[JakeStarkey]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

I get your drift.

Now That you parasitic fuckers constitute 50% of the electorate , you will not permit that.

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Quit yer whining. HBH has trouble with framing while you are simply nuts. Bet I pay more in taxes each year than the income you make, Conty.

The far right reactionaries and libertarians while making up maybe 30% of the GOP, you are no more than 15% of the country, I think.

You are not mainstream.

And Henry, ACA is the name of the program, and our Obamacare demonization is turning off mainstream voters. It is about framing.

 

[HenryBHough]

What other than a Democrat - OK, maybe a really exceptional village idiot - persists in calling Obamacare "ACA"?

 

[JakeStarkey]

HBH, go look in the mirror and you will find him.

We can take the Senate if we defeat every reactionary loon in the primaries and campaign our asses with good candidates against the Dems.

Saying that, understand we can' overthrow ACA. The president will simply veto any such legislation.

So what do you offer constructively?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

The majority of voters disapprove of ObamaCare and yes, they will allow it to be repealed and no, calling it ObamaCare isn't turning anyone off.

It's all in your head, Jake.

 

[Contumacious]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

I get your drift.

Now That you parasitic fuckers constitute 50% of the electorate , you will not permit that.

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Quit yer whining. HBH has trouble with framing while you are simply nuts. Bet I pay more in taxes each year than the income you make, Conty.

The far right reactionaries and libertarians while making up maybe 30% of the GOP, you are no more than 15% of the country, I think.

You are not mainstream.

And Henry, ACA is the name of the program, and our Obamacare demonization is turning off mainstream voters. It is about framing.

Parasitism has gone "mainstream", enjoy the benefits while they last.

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[JakeStarkey]

Lot of nuts on the far right and libertarians sides.

Believe what you want.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The far right reactionaries and the libertarians are still whining.

The battle for ACA is over, guys.

We need to reform it not repeal it, because the voters will not permit that.

I get your drift.

Now That you parasitic fuckers constitute 50% of the electorate , you will not permit that.

.

Quit yer whining. HBH has trouble with framing while you are simply nuts. Bet I pay more in taxes each year than the income you make, Conty.

The far right reactionaries and libertarians while making up maybe 30% of the GOP, you are no more than 15% of the country, I think.

You are not mainstream.

And Henry, ACA is the name of the program, and our Obamacare demonization is turning off mainstream voters. It is about framing.

only a democrat would brag about how much he maks on a anonymous board.

 

[Old Rocks]

Too many variables to reliably predict.

For example, is it really impossible that, by executive order, there may be NO elections for congress in 2014?

No, really????

Yes. No, really. Barring Yellowstone erupting, or a very large impact, the 2014 elections will come off as scheduled. We managed to do our elections in the greatest crisis in this nations history, the Civil War, we will certainly manage to do them in 2014, when the only crisis is in the mindset of 'Conservatives'.

 

[HenryBHough]

Who but a Democrat, village idiot or closeted Marxist would call Obamacare "ACA"?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Who but a Democrat, village idiot or closeted Marxist would call Obamacare "ACA"?

Yup only a democrat trys to change the name so they hope and prays it becomes main stream. Ie...

Global cooling > global warming > climate change

Liberal's > Progressives

Obama care> ACA

Only the left does that shit, when they get out debated and made fun of.

 

[Nyvin]

Who but a Democrat, village idiot or closeted Marxist would call Obamacare "ACA"?

ACA is the official name, Obamacare was a Republican spin-off that just got publicly adopted.

 

[Wildman]

Who but a Democrat, village idiot or closeted Marxist would call Obamacare "ACA"?

ACA is the official name, Obamacare was a Republican spin-off that just got publicly adopted.

and your point is....... ??