GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

[VaYank5150]

The fear-mongering and lies from the Republicans against the President’s heath care reform proposal are going full-tilt.

The Oakland County Republican Party and extremist rightwing chair David Law are sending out an email that makes the outrageously false claim that it will outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government take over healthcare in the U.S. To make sure you get it, the word outlaw is in all caps. Apparently, the GOP didn’t get the results of the last election where the American people said they wanted change, and that change included health care reform and access to health care for the more than 47 million Americans with no access to affordable health care.

The GOP claim is absolutely false, but that has not stopped the rightwing noise machine from pushing that false claim. The real truth is that if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. The single payer option that I favor may make for profit health insurance providers irrelevant, but that is not in the proposal, unfortunately. What is being proposed is a public option that will increase competition, stop insurance companies from denying coverage for people with so-called existing conditions and lower heath care costs.

The lie is also being pushed that the government will get between the patient and the doctor. That is also false. But the fact is now the insurance provider is getting in between the doctor and the patient. Millions of people have had a situation where a doctor ordered a certain test or treatment, and the insurance company said no, they were not going to cover it. There is a good reason the health insurance provider lobby is spending $1.4 million a day to fight health care reform.

We simply cannot afford not to reform health care. Medical problems caused 62 percent of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers, said a story published in Business Week. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78 percent of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3 percent who had private coverage.

The obstructionist Republicans have offered zero new or viable proposals to reform the high cost of heat care or a plan to cover the people who have no health care, but they are using the issue to try and take power back.

In fact, taking power back is their only concern in this fight. Screw the 47 million Americans with no access to health care, and that number is rising every day as people lose employer provided health care as they lose jobs or the company drops in order to compete globally with countries that provide universal health care.

Last week, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina gleefully fired up the troops with this line, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

The focus of Republicans is to simply get Obama and snatch power back, not fixing a massive problem. It appears the strategy is to delay it as long as possible so it will lead to its death, and to use the old GOP standby strategy that if you tell a lie often enough people start to believe it.

When the President campaigned for change, he was correct, but it’s the same old stuff from Republicans.

The Conservative Media: GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The fear-mongering and lies from the Republicans against the President’s heath care reform proposal are going full-tilt.

The Oakland County Republican Party and extremist rightwing chair David Law are sending out an email that makes the outrageously false claim that it will outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government take over healthcare in the U.S. To make sure you get it, the word outlaw is in all caps. Apparently, the GOP didn’t get the results of the last election where the American people said they wanted change, and that change included health care reform and access to health care for the more than 47 million Americans with no access to affordable health care.

The GOP claim is absolutely false, but that has not stopped the rightwing noise machine from pushing that false claim. The real truth is that if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. The single payer option that I favor may make for profit health insurance providers irrelevant, but that is not in the proposal, unfortunately. What is being proposed is a public option that will increase competition, stop insurance companies from denying coverage for people with so-called existing conditions and lower heath care costs.

The lie is also being pushed that the government will get between the patient and the doctor. That is also false. But the fact is now the insurance provider is getting in between the doctor and the patient. Millions of people have had a situation where a doctor ordered a certain test or treatment, and the insurance company said no, they were not going to cover it. There is a good reason the health insurance provider lobby is spending $1.4 million a day to fight health care reform.

We simply cannot afford not to reform health care. Medical problems caused 62 percent of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers, said a story published in Business Week. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78 percent of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3 percent who had private coverage.

The obstructionist Republicans have offered zero new or viable proposals to reform the high cost of heat care or a plan to cover the people who have no health care, but they are using the issue to try and take power back.

In fact, taking power back is their only concern in this fight. Screw the 47 million Americans with no access to health care, and that number is rising every day as people lose employer provided health care as they lose jobs or the company drops in order to compete globally with countries that provide universal health care.

Last week, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina gleefully fired up the troops with this line, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

The focus of Republicans is to simply get Obama and snatch power back, not fixing a massive problem. It appears the strategy is to delay it as long as possible so it will lead to its death, and to use the old GOP standby strategy that if you tell a lie often enough people start to believe it.

When the President campaigned for change, he was correct, but it’s the same old stuff from Republicans.

The Conservative Media: GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

How in the hell would you know if it is a LIE? The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill, and when they have put it up for vote and REFUSED to allow Senators and Congressmen time to read it or to publish it for the public.

You are defending a blank check once again. The stimulus fiasco should have woken you up to the abuse and problems with THAT approach. The liberals are so OUT of touch with what the people want that their own party is AGAINST them. It takes 218 votes to pass a bill in the house, there are 265 Democrats. It takes 51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate, there are 58 Democrats and 2 Independents that vote with the Democrats. And yet they can not get these bills passed. WHY? Not because of any Republican action. Because of their own party disagreeing with the plan, the failure to allow debate, the failure to inform the American people and the fear that it will be a shambles if they just vote for what ever Pelosi and Reid approve of.

We know that versions have been proposed that include direct Government control with direct blocks on the ability of the current insurance companies to compete with the federal Government. We know that versions have been proposed that would FORCE all Americans to have insurance and if they did not have it to be FINED by the Government at least half to 2/3rds the cost of the Government plan. These are not made up propositions, they have been floated and have been shot down. Again NOT by republicans but by DEMOCRATS. Democrats opposed to the heavy handed tactics of Pelosi, Reid and Obama.

There is a saying .... " Fool me once shame on YOU, fool me twice, shame on ME" We have already been fooled once by the stimulus debacle shall we just allow it to happen again with health care?

 

[xotoxi]

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

How in the hell would you know if it is a LIE? The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill, and when they have put it up for vote and REFUSED to allow Senators and Congressmen time to read it or to publish it for the public.

By your same argument, how would you know if it is TRUE?

Basically, if we can't call it a LIE, and we can't call it the TRUTH, then it is just a FABLE.

 

[Sinatra]

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

How in the hell would you know if it is a LIE? The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill, and when they have put it up for vote and REFUSED to allow Senators and Congressmen time to read it or to publish it for the public.

By your same argument, how would you know if it is TRUE?

Basically, if we can't call it a LIE, and we can't call it the TRUTH, then it is just a FABLE.

Bam! Another liberal easily dispatched with simple common sense...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

How in the hell would you know if it is a LIE? The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill, and when they have put it up for vote and REFUSED to allow Senators and Congressmen time to read it or to publish it for the public.

By your same argument, how would you know if it is TRUE?

Basically, if we can't call it a LIE, and we can't call it the TRUTH, then it is just a FABLE.

We do know what has been proposed and shot down, we also know that we only find out the details after the Democrats force a vote with out allowing the Public to be informed and after not even letting the people in Congress voting on the bills to read it. And from that we know that the reason no bill has passed is because the procedures and desires of those bills were disasterous to the public, this country and the economy.

 

[garyd]

Given that what the final bill will be is utterly unknown until the Senate and House conference committee on health care adjourns. In the meantime there isn't a damn thing wrong with telling this goldplated horses butts that have forgotten that they work for us rather than the other way around exactly what the hell we do not want in a health care reform bill.

 

[del]

The fear-mongering and lies from the Republicans against the President’s heath care reform proposal are going full-tilt.

The Oakland County Republican Party and extremist rightwing chair David Law are sending out an email that makes the outrageously false claim that it will outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government take over healthcare in the U.S. To make sure you get it, the word outlaw is in all caps. Apparently, the GOP didn’t get the results of the last election where the American people said they wanted change, and that change included health care reform and access to health care for the more than 47 million Americans with no access to affordable health care.

The GOP claim is absolutely false, but that has not stopped the rightwing noise machine from pushing that false claim. The real truth is that if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. The single payer option that I favor may make for profit health insurance providers irrelevant, but that is not in the proposal, unfortunately. What is being proposed is a public option that will increase competition, stop insurance companies from denying coverage for people with so-called existing conditions and lower heath care costs.

The lie is also being pushed that the government will get between the patient and the doctor. That is also false. But the fact is now the insurance provider is getting in between the doctor and the patient. Millions of people have had a situation where a doctor ordered a certain test or treatment, and the insurance company said no, they were not going to cover it. There is a good reason the health insurance provider lobby is spending $1.4 million a day to fight health care reform.

We simply cannot afford not to reform health care. Medical problems caused 62 percent of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers, said a story published in Business Week. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78 percent of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3 percent who had private coverage.

The obstructionist Republicans have offered zero new or viable proposals to reform the high cost of heat care or a plan to cover the people who have no health care, but they are using the issue to try and take power back.

In fact, taking power back is their only concern in this fight. Screw the 47 million Americans with no access to health care, and that number is rising every day as people lose employer provided health care as they lose jobs or the company drops in order to compete globally with countries that provide universal health care.

Last week, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina gleefully fired up the troops with this line, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

The focus of Republicans is to simply get Obama and snatch power back, not fixing a massive problem. It appears the strategy is to delay it as long as possible so it will lead to its death, and to use the old GOP standby strategy that if you tell a lie often enough people start to believe it.

When the President campaigned for change, he was correct, but it’s the same old stuff from Republicans.

The Conservative Media: GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

i dunno, you cited them, why do you think they lie?

 

[Diuretic]

The fear-mongering and lies from the Republicans against the President’s heath care reform proposal are going full-tilt.

The Oakland County Republican Party and extremist rightwing chair David Law are sending out an email that makes the outrageously false claim that it will outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government take over healthcare in the U.S. To make sure you get it, the word outlaw is in all caps. Apparently, the GOP didn’t get the results of the last election where the American people said they wanted change, and that change included health care reform and access to health care for the more than 47 million Americans with no access to affordable health care.

The GOP claim is absolutely false, but that has not stopped the rightwing noise machine from pushing that false claim. The real truth is that if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. The single payer option that I favor may make for profit health insurance providers irrelevant, but that is not in the proposal, unfortunately. What is being proposed is a public option that will increase competition, stop insurance companies from denying coverage for people with so-called existing conditions and lower heath care costs.

The lie is also being pushed that the government will get between the patient and the doctor. That is also false. But the fact is now the insurance provider is getting in between the doctor and the patient. Millions of people have had a situation where a doctor ordered a certain test or treatment, and the insurance company said no, they were not going to cover it. There is a good reason the health insurance provider lobby is spending $1.4 million a day to fight health care reform.

We simply cannot afford not to reform health care. Medical problems caused 62 percent of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers, said a story published in Business Week. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78 percent of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3 percent who had private coverage.

The obstructionist Republicans have offered zero new or viable proposals to reform the high cost of heat care or a plan to cover the people who have no health care, but they are using the issue to try and take power back.

In fact, taking power back is their only concern in this fight. Screw the 47 million Americans with no access to health care, and that number is rising every day as people lose employer provided health care as they lose jobs or the company drops in order to compete globally with countries that provide universal health care.

Last week, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina gleefully fired up the troops with this line, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

The focus of Republicans is to simply get Obama and snatch power back, not fixing a massive problem. It appears the strategy is to delay it as long as possible so it will lead to its death, and to use the old GOP standby strategy that if you tell a lie often enough people start to believe it.

When the President campaigned for change, he was correct, but it’s the same old stuff from Republicans.

The Conservative Media: GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

Assuming it's a misrepresentation (not doubting the veracity of your information, just being judicious) then it must be in reaction to intelligence they have that the current misrepresentations aren't hitting home. Perhaps the line that the government is going to euthanase seniors was a bit too extreme for people to believe and people have worked out they're being fed bullshit. Okay, bring in Plan B - use a misrepresentation that is more believable.

 

[Fatality]

The fear-mongering and lies from the Republicans against the President’s heath care reform proposal are going full-tilt.

The Oakland County Republican Party and extremist rightwing chair David Law are sending out an email that makes the outrageously false claim that it will outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government take over healthcare in the U.S. To make sure you get it, the word outlaw is in all caps. Apparently, the GOP didn’t get the results of the last election where the American people said they wanted change, and that change included health care reform and access to health care for the more than 47 million Americans with no access to affordable health care.

The GOP claim is absolutely false, but that has not stopped the rightwing noise machine from pushing that false claim. The real truth is that if you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. The single payer option that I favor may make for profit health insurance providers irrelevant, but that is not in the proposal, unfortunately. What is being proposed is a public option that will increase competition, stop insurance companies from denying coverage for people with so-called existing conditions and lower heath care costs.

The lie is also being pushed that the government will get between the patient and the doctor. That is also false. But the fact is now the insurance provider is getting in between the doctor and the patient. Millions of people have had a situation where a doctor ordered a certain test or treatment, and the insurance company said no, they were not going to cover it. There is a good reason the health insurance provider lobby is spending $1.4 million a day to fight health care reform.

We simply cannot afford not to reform health care. Medical problems caused 62 percent of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers, said a story published in Business Week. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78 percent of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3 percent who had private coverage.

The obstructionist Republicans have offered zero new or viable proposals to reform the high cost of heat care or a plan to cover the people who have no health care, but they are using the issue to try and take power back.

In fact, taking power back is their only concern in this fight. Screw the 47 million Americans with no access to health care, and that number is rising every day as people lose employer provided health care as they lose jobs or the company drops in order to compete globally with countries that provide universal health care.

Last week, Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina gleefully fired up the troops with this line, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

The focus of Republicans is to simply get Obama and snatch power back, not fixing a massive problem. It appears the strategy is to delay it as long as possible so it will lead to its death, and to use the old GOP standby strategy that if you tell a lie often enough people start to believe it.

When the President campaigned for change, he was correct, but it’s the same old stuff from Republicans.

The Conservative Media: GOP fear-mongering on health care reform spins out of control

WHY do they feel the need to lie? Can someone please answer this very simple question?

obama is fail, you are fail, socialists are fail. get bent

 

[necritan]

Yeah...we can keep our own healthcare....LMFAO.

Since when did the private sector win against the government....???? oh....wait...they did. But it wasnt pretty....

 

[Diuretic]

Yeah...we can keep our own healthcare....LMFAO.

Since when did the private sector win against the government....???? oh....wait...they did. But it wasnt pretty....

They won?

 

[VaYank5150]

The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill

IF the GOP would actually take an active role in this debate, rather than playing obstructionist games, you wouldn't be relyingon the Democrats for your information, now would you?

 

[nodoginnafight]

How in the hell would you know if it is a LIE? The democrats won't tell us what they will put in the bill, and when they have put it up for vote and REFUSED to allow Senators and Congressmen time to read it or to publish it for the public.

By your same argument, how would you know if it is TRUE?

Basically, if we can't call it a LIE, and we can't call it the TRUTH, then it is just a FABLE.

Bam! Another liberal easily dispatched with simple common sense...

actually this argument was not directed to a "liberal" I don't want to put words into someone's mouth but I think retgysgt might take issue with you labeling him a liberal. But it's nice that you note the effectivtivness of the logic.

 

[VaYank5150]

actually this argument was not directed to a "liberal"

It's a shame Sinatra struggles with that "common sense" he mentioned...

 

[Xenophon]

Ah, blog wars, always cool.

Because we all know everything written on somebody's blog must be 100% correct in every way.

 

[nodoginnafight]

actually this argument was not directed to a "liberal"

It's a shame Sinatra struggles with that "common sense" he mentioned...

I wonder if his appreciation of this solid logic will be affected by his understanding of whose argument it refutes?

 

[VaYank5150]

Because we all know everything written on somebody's blog must be 100% correct in every way.

Sarcasm! Good show!

 

[Xenophon]

Because we all know everything written on somebody's blog must be 100% correct in every way.

Sarcasm! Good show!

A blog by some guy!

Let's spend all day talking about it!

 

[VaYank5150]

A blog by some guy!

Let's spend all day talking about it!

While I share your spite for Blogs in general, this one speaks to a point I have been trying to make, which is that right wing minded (in general) folks have been spreading disinformation about heathcare reform in an attempt to scare people. What I would like to knwo is WHY?