The FBI Had 26 confidential human sources in DC on Jan 6th

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL Give us a break. You guys have been kissing the FBI's butt for a decade while they did they acted like the Democrat Secret Police Force. And NOW you "hold them to a different standard".

No idiot. I am talking what the courts do amd what the law does. How about you take some to grow up and put on your big girl panties, then come back.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Since the report shows clearly the FBI had no influence over the Y'all Qaeda insurrection, this might be the dumbest thread of the month.

 

[MisterBeale]

Reporting to the FBI about the potential for the extremist right wing groups to commit acts of violence.

FBI tracks extremist anti-government organizations. It’s part of their responsibility.

Ahhhh. . . . so you are saying that the government was aware of the threat, but never prepared for it?

Interesting.

 

[WEATHER53]

Ahhhh. . . . so you are saying that the government was aware of the threat, but never prepared for it?

Interesting.

They did not allow sufficient policing because they planned and wanted it to get out of hand . Then the plants made it so

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ahhhh. . . . so you are saying that the government was aware of the threat, but never prepared for it?

Interesting.

Correct, they didn't prepare well.enough.

They were blinded by the White.

Happens in this country quite often.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Fascinating none of the CHS were arrested for insurrection. Why is that?

Didnt they break the law?

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW! REMEMBER?

 

[Marener]

Right, it was 26 CHS…..not “EMPLOYEES”.

I love how they mince words.

Well, yeah. There’s a pretty significant difference.

Most of those sources didn’t even tell the FBI

Ahhhh. . . . so you are saying that the government was aware of the threat, but never prepared for it?

Interesting.

Partially. Most of those confidential sources didn’t tell the FBI handlers in field offices about any thread. A couple did, but those concerns were not felt to be very credible and the FBI didn’t do a comprehensive analysis, partially because the FBI doesn’t handle intelligence for the Capitol. The Capitol Police are largely autonomous.

 

[whitehall]

Did they have a mission to incite violence? Were they compensated by taxpayers? Are there any freaking investigative reporters left in the Country?

 

[MisterBeale]

They did not allow sufficient policing because they planned and wanted it to get out of hand . Then the plants made it so

Of course. But the folks that are outraged about these facts, had previously state that the D.C. metro police and Capitol Police were not aware of the threat, and had deployed sufficient force for the crowds they expected.


This:

FBI tracks extremist anti-government organizations. It’s part of their responsibility.

Is what every sane person on this site also knows and has said, and folks like this had continually stated that it was not true.

If they track extremist activity, that means they were aware of the threat. It also means, that either the entire surveillance & law enforcement bureaucracy was at best, negligent, at worse, complicit in the events of J6.

It had not a damn thing to do with Trump or MAGA.


All those participants appeared to be walking into a trap set up by the swamp, even before Jan. 6th rolled around on the calendar.

 

[MisterBeale]

Most of those confidential sources didn’t tell the FBI handlers in field offices about any thread.

I know, I read several of the text and email exchanges my self.

Anyone that claimed this wasn't a threat? Is either a moron not worthy of continuing their employment, or a threat to society, its citizens, and the republic itself.

but those concerns were not felt to be very credible and the FBI didn’t do a comprehensive analysis

Bleev what you need to in order to justify the fedsurrection. Most intelligent folks know this claim is balderdash.

 

[Marener]

Anyone that claimed this wasn't a threat? Is either a moron not worthy of continuing their employment, or a threat to society, its citizens, and the republic itself.

Well, it would have been hard to make the case it was a threat. It's not like Trump rallies have a history of becoming violent rallies. Prior history indicates these are largely quite peaceful affairs.

If we asked you before January 6th about the propensity for violence, you would have been telling me it was going to be the left attacking the MAGAs, not the MAGAs attacking the police. In fact, when the FBI does do a threat analysis about the propensity for violence among the fringe right wing, you guys often get absolutely appalled and demand it's retracted because you're so offended by it.

 

[MisterBeale]

Correct, they didn't prepare well.enough.

They were blinded by the White.

Happens in this country quite often.

. . . and yet?

That was not the narrative the government and establishment settled on.

Instead? They settled on "insurrection."
Which by this post, you yourself are contradicting everything you have ever written on this.




This narrative? Would just make it a protest that got out of control, and turned into a riot. Something as innocuous as the summer BLM riots.


but for folks like you, who haven't got a clue what a real "insurrection," is?

It went like this;

BUT. . . that is NOT how the establishment has spun it for the past four years.

 

[Marener]

Of course.

The idea that the riot was provoked by secret FBI agents who were instructed to do so is fantasy completely unsupported by any facts.

Is what every sane person on this site also knows and has said, and folks like this had continually stated that it was not true.

I have no idea who you think said it was untrue. I certainly never have.

If they track extremist activity, that means they were aware of the threat. It also means, that either the entire surveillance & law enforcement bureaucracy was at best, negligent, at worse, complicit in the events of J6.

Doesn't mean they're perfect at doing so. Threats are often overlooked or downplayed, especially black swan events like the Capitol Riot. At the end of the day, the federal agencies didn't think that the violent rhetoric from the right would actually result in violence. After all, the right frequently uses violence rhetoric, but rarely engages in it. If your position is that the extremists groups were saying they were going to attack the government and that means they were going to attack the government, my position is, well they say shit like that every day.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

It had not a damn thing to do with Trump or MAGA.

Except for the fact that it was Trump who sent them there and it was MAGA who engaged in violence.

All those participants appeared to be walking into a trap set up by the swamp, even before Jan. 6th rolled around on the calendar.

What do you mean a trap? If MAGA hadn't decided to become overwhelmingly violent, this never would have happened. There was no trap.

 

[MisterBeale]

Well, it would have been hard to make the case it was a threat. It's not like Trump rallies have a history of becoming violent rallies. Prior history indicates these are largely quite peaceful affairs.

If we asked you before January 6th about the propensity for violence, you would have been telling me it was going to be the left attacking the MAGAs, not the MAGAs attacking the police. In fact, when the FBI does do a threat analysis about the propensity for violence among the fringe right wing, you guys often get absolutely appalled and demand it's retracted because you're so offended by it.

Nope, I read that internal communications from the CHS myself.

This is a false narrative.



There is no way those intentions could have been confused. Just the fact that there was chatter like that? Justified more law enforcement presence on J6.

The establishment was either negligent or implicated. Those are the facts and the truth. There was no intention to subvert that government on J6, and by their own actions, we know this.

Just that fact that we know the establishment knew about the threat, and was not prepared, shows, THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT.

 

[WEATHER53]

Of course. But the folks that are outraged about these facts, had previously state that the D.C. metro police and Capitol Police were not aware of the threat, and had deployed sufficient force for the crowds they expected.


This:



Is what every sane person on this site also knows and has said, and folks like this had continually stated that it was not true.

If they track extremist activity, that means they were aware of the threat. It also means, that either the entire surveillance & law enforcement bureaucracy was at best, negligent, at worse, complicit in the events of J6.

It had not a damn thing to do with Trump or MAGA.


All those participants appeared to be walking into a trap set up by the swamp, even before Jan. 6th rolled around on the calendar.

It would not have worked for them to have sufficient forces to quell this.
It had to explode into the make pretend Insurrection and they made sure it happened

 

[Marener]

Nope, I read that internal communications from the CHS myself.

This is a false narrative.



There is no way those intentions could have been confused. Just the fact that there was chatter like that? Justified more law enforcement presence on J6.

The establishment was either negligent or implicated. Those are the facts and the truth. There was no intention to subvert that government on J6, and by their own actions, we know this.

Just that fact that we know the establishment knew about the threat, and was not prepared, shows, THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT.

So if the extremists were all planning to engage in violence, then they couldn’t have been provoked by FBI agents in the crowd.

Thanks for disproving the entire right wing narrative here.

 

[Marener]

It would not have worked for them to have sufficient forces to quell this.
It had to explode into the make pretend Insurrection and they made sure it happened

It took the MAGA extremists to become violent in order for there to be anything to quell in the first place.

 

[MisterBeale]

So if the extremists were all planning to engage in violence, then they couldn’t have been provoked by FBI agents in the crowd.

So by your own logic, you admit that the establishment was either negligent or complicit.

Interesting.

 

[WEATHER53]

It took the MAGA extremists to become violent in order for there to be anything to quell in the first place.

They are admitting their part to your face but your feelings and wishes continue to say no

 

[Marener]

So by your own logic, you admit that the establishment was either negligent or complicit.

Interesting.

Negligent. Yes. Agreed. Dems have been saying this ad nauseum.

We are also saying, correctly, that this is an attempt to excuse the behavior of MAGA extremists who were sent to the Capitol by Trump to overturn the election and became very violent.

Doesn't the ultimate responsibility lie with the people who did the rioting and not the people who failed to stop them? We are talking about adults here. Not children.