Gold card is not an America first agenda IMO.

[initforme]

First off, the five million dollar crowd would not be illegals. And, the point is, they would create jobs and hire Americans to provide tax revenue. And the five million dollars would go toward paying down our debt.

We have american citizens that can do the same. Not feasible.

 

[Independent thinker]

Agree, but the mixing in of illegals to this thread is actually going off topic, and it takes away from the original pretense of the thread. Thanks

I don't see how five million dollars per going to pay down our debt and creating businesses which hire Americans and provide tax revenue is not America first.

 

[beagle9]

First off, the five million dollar crowd would not be illegals. And, the point is, they would create jobs and hire Americans to provide tax revenue. And the five million dollars would go toward paying down our debt.

All sounds great until you end up working for foreigners in your own country, otherwise a bordered country that is supposed to be supporting an American come back for Americans.

Do we sell ourselves out to the highest bidder or should we be ?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Yeah, I'm with beagle on this one.

The American heritage itself is gradually being eroded. Has been for a long time.

Americanism is not and should not be viewed as a commodity to be bought and sold to the extent that it is being gradually whitewashed.

 

[BlackSand]

All YOU get, is millions of rich Chinese, Indians and Arabs. - taking over the US economy.

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Would you care to try and make the case about how a bunch of broke and indigent workers ...
Would somehow produce a better result when they flood the country and take over the economy ...
And do little more than pollute the Politics of it all?

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[beagle9]

I don't see how five million dollars per going to pay down our debt and creating businesses which hire Americans and provide tax revenue is not America first.

Interesting dangling going on in this thread.

Using foreigners to save America by placing them above Americans because they have foreign investment money to buy influence in our nation is not "America First"

Can't we save ourselves, and our country, and this we can do by way of tapping into our greatest talents and strengths from within our own nation, otherwise by supportering our up and coming American entrepreneurs and workforce's first ??

What's with all this outside investment money being looked at in ways that to most is not a true "America First Agenda", where as shouldn't we be lifting up our own to becoming entrepreneurs and business owner's from their boot straps up, and this instead of entertaining foreigners by making them think that we need them and their money desperately or else ?

I don't like it...

 

[Independent thinker]

All sounds great until you end up working for foreigners in your own country, otherwise a bordered country that is supposed to be supporting an American come back for Americans.

Do we sell ourselves out to the highest bidder or should we be ?

I hate to sound like a democrat, but, we are a nation of immigrants. We're pretty much all descended from immigrants. Most Republicans' main beef is there is a difference between legals and illegals.

 

[beagle9]

Yeah, I'm with beagle on this one.

The American heritage itself is gradually being eroded. Has been for a long time.

Americanism is not and should not be viewed as a commodity to be bought and sold to the extent that it is being gradually whitewashed.

Amen brother.. Well said..

 

[beagle9]

I hate to sound like a democrat, but, we are a nation of immigrants. We're pretty much all descended from immigrants. Most Republicans' main beef is there is a difference between legals and illegals.

Yes, but they were immigrants that came here of their own "FREE" will, and wanting to seek a better way of life, and admiring the American dream, taking an oath to become an American citizen, and then living a loyal assimilated lifestyle that lifted all America and their American neighbors up together as one.

Money can't buy these types of immigrants and their loyalty, and it is fool hearted to think that it can or should be looked at in such a way.

 

[1srelluc]

Top talent exist right here in America as American citizens now. Ignoring this in some sort of bid to get foreigners to do our heavy lifting is ridiculous.

It's all about money and nothing else, yet lifting up Americans and empowering Americans gets forgotten about.

Negative, top talent is top talent wherever it is found, here or overseas.

If the talent is US born then so much the better but you don't ignore foreign talent if they are already on US soil or you can entice them here.

Gee, I guess we should have just let the Soviets have Wernher von Braun because he wasn't from here......BTW.....He became a US Citizen in 1955.

And yeah, given the state of our FUBAR education system we will have to depend more and more on foreign talent and hopefully make loyal US Citizens of them.

 

[beagle9]

Negative, top talent is top talent wherever it is found, here or overseas.

If the talent is US born then so much the better but you don't ignore foreign talent if they are already on US soil or you can entice them here.

Gee, I guess we should have just let the Soviets have Wernher von Braun because he wasn't from here......BTW.....He became a US Citizen in 1955.

And yeah, given the state of our FUBAR education system we will have to depend more and more on foreign talent and hopefully make loyal US Citizens of them.

What part of America First didn't you understand ?

That's all anyone is talking about here, and yes you are right that we shouldn't ignore top talent regardless of where it is in the world.... However, when you figure out how to make that a practice worth standing behind in a fair and balanced way, and better yet in a super MAGA beneficial way, then you call us up and let us know that you've finally figured out how to make the secret to American's successes in life work.

Let us know please, how under the so called America First policy vision, that seeking foreigners wealth like this is somehow part of that policy or vision.

So will it all be due to a foreigners wealth that we might succeed, and that the ultimate secret is that Americans should worship the ground that these "wealthy foreigners" walk upon, and that we should do this because of their wealth that is above and beyond anything the average working class "dumb ace" American could have ever imagined possible or could have ever dreamed of ??

 

[beagle9]

Negative, top talent is top talent wherever it is found, here or overseas.

If the talent is US born then so much the better but you don't ignore foreign talent if they are already on US soil or you can entice them here.

Gee, I guess we should have just let the Soviets have Wernher von Braun because he wasn't from here......BTW.....He became a US Citizen in 1955.

And yeah, given the state of our FUBAR education system we will have to depend more and more on foreign talent and hopefully make loyal US Citizens of them.

Helping someone is different from the proposal being made by these cabinet official's concerning the Gold Card idea.

 

[fncceo]

Having the idea that foreigners can come in this country if they purchase a 5 million dollar green card, and this in order to spur business, and to create job's for Americans etc, is not an America first agenda IMHO.

The HELL it isn't.

What a change to have people come into this country who want to contribute to building it better than people who come to suck it dry.

A five million dollar investment in a business hires a lot of Americans.

 

[cnm]

Don't get distracted Trump, and focus on America first.

You really think Chump's motto is not 'Trump first'?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Thinking that Americans aren't suitable to own and run companies for American's, otherwise in which seems to be the inference in this gold card deal or idea being touted, (IMO), is not an acceptable way of thinking when it comes to the American first agenda.

Having the idea that foreigners can come in this country if they purchase a 5 million dollar green card, and this in order to spur business, and to create job's for Americans etc, is not an America first agenda IMHO.

Why ???
People coming here from other countries, and then being given special treatment or deals after they do some kind of business deal with our government, and yet without Americans having a say (vote) in this type of thing or activity should be unacceptable to most Americans.

We as American citizen's have experienced a wide range of abuses under foreigners either as individuals or owners of companies operating in this country. This is because of them not having a loyalty or belief system that is assimilated or has some sort of an idea on how to be an empathetic compassionate, fair minded, and yet well balanced business owner that has been exposed to the American value system in ways that working Americans can then agree to having such a person or person's to operate as their boss.

I'm skeptical all due to the owner's not having the same ideology, beliefs, standards, and values that Americans hold dear here, and this is usually where the abuses go under the radar when American workers are worked by foreigners without some sort of civil guarantees or check system that ensures compliance.

Take the call center's being used off shore for example, otherwise that have been used by our business owner's, and think about how much trouble and disrespect we as Americans have had dealing with that situation (if not but just having a super hard time understanding them).

I know people who work for foreign business owners here in America, and the stories they tell are not good one's.

What say you all ?

I'm sure there are some good one's in many cases, but flooding this nation with foreign money and business owner's for whom Americans would have to rely on or go too for their livelihoods, ummm sounds about as bad as the open borders that took place under Biden along with the abuses Americans were experiencing with that situation. Money just makes it a cleaner abuse.

Summary:
We shouldn't be flooding our country with people who don't share our beliefs, our values, and our standards or traditions, especially as business owners that Americans end up relying on.

Like Trump said - If we don't have a border we don't have a country.

Now put your word's where your heart is Trump, and stop looking at everything as a business DEAL when you are talking about an American first agenda...

Don't get distracted Trump, and focus on America first.

This is not a dig at Trump, because I believe this Idea is being pushed by one of his cabinet officials.

Americans don't want hand outs, and we don't want to be showered with gifts to the point of becoming dependent, and we sure as hell don't want a country flooded with wealthy foreigners that end up controlling the means of our prosperity as Americans.

I'm just applying real life situations we've experienced in the past with this way of thinking.

America first should be about lifting Americans up again, and this will create the MAGA that was being touted that moved Americans to vote for Trump based on this concept.

Flooding the nation with wealthy foreigners who buy their way in, and then end up being like the squad or protesting in the streets for HAMAS, and flying Mexican flags above the American flag is unacceptable. I'm actually surprised at Trump really that he actually went here with this.

Everything is not a damned business deal. That thinking does not represent American traditional values nor does it support American traditional values.

I agree with you…we don’t need one more foreigner here…rich or poor. We need to restore ‘America’, **** the potential financial gain…we need more people who cry when our national anthem is played.

 

[Unkotare]

I agree with you…we don’t need one more foreigner here…rich or poor. We need to restore ‘America’, **** the potential financial gain…we need more people who cry when our national anthem is played.

You don't.

 

[Kruska]

Correct. 5 million is what it takes to open a small business. It's also a lot of risk because most small businesses fail.

So yes, anyone who is willing to risk their hard earned money is welcome.

Come on - no one is going to open some small business in the USA - if one has US$5 million to spare (aka pocket-money).
The people you are referring to, are e.g. Indians who got some US$ 100-300,000 and start a roadside shop.

 

[22lcidw]

We have american citizens that can do the same. Not feasible.

We have many employed not on merit.

 

[Kruska]

,

Would you care to try and make the case about how a bunch of broke and indigent workers ...
Would somehow produce a better result when they flood the country and take over the economy ...
And do little more than pollute the Politics of it all?

.​

Go ahead and explain as to how favoring rich and foreign oligarchs taking over the US economy - is supposed to prevent illegal migrants from entering the USA or any other country.

And do explain as the where you and your MAGA pals got the idea from, that a Chinese, Indian, etc. Goldcard holder is going to employ White Americans.
Those Gold-card holders are simply going to buy investment assets and properties - as such making living and property costs for Americans even more expensive aka UNAFFORDABLE.

 

[22lcidw]

Go ahead and explain as to how favoring rich and foreign oligarchs taking over the US economy - is supposed to prevent illegal migrants from entering the USA or any other country.

And do explain as the where you and your MAGA pals got the idea from, that a Chinese, Indian, etc. Goldcard holder is going to employ White Americans.
Those Gold-card holders are simply going to buy investment assets and properties - as such making living and property costs for Americans even more expensive aka UNAFFORDABLE.

There are African American CEO's of their own companies and/or corporate entities who hired African Americans en masse and we quickly diving into destruction. They changed and hired people of other cultures to stop the bleeding. Along with the massive money sent to them from we see of the wasted trillions now, we see false wealth.