You're saying "born of water" is water baptism. That's your error in interpretation. Not my comprehension problem. Yours. Why didn't Jesus sat "born of baptism"? Why didn't Paul say in Romans "you are saved by faith and baptism" instead of just faith?
Here's a good explanation. Read it slowly and purposefully. Good points.
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Unbelievable you want to continue to mince words like this. Pathetic. Baptism is the rebirth of our bodies and souls in water. If you are unable to make the simple connection, you will be one of those that Jesus said "I never knew you."
Unfortunately, this is BS. Look, in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, you have to have lived on this earth. In order to have entered this world, you had to be born. Now, which one has the condition of faith that you so enjoy throwing around like some ping pong ball? It's after we were born into this world on earth. So, the born of water only is represented by an act after we are on earth after birth, not before. Logic and reason then says born of water to enter into the kingdom of God is water baptism, not physical birth by our mothers. Unbelievable! Just to get out of having to be baptized by water. Like I said, Jesus will say he never knew you.Here's a good explanation. Read it slowly and purposefully. Good points.
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Yep altered. Glad you said it. Altered by your prophet-scholars who lied 5 times getting everyone's undies all up in a bunch. Jesus said he told the people back in the OT times that is written in Psalms 82:6. Jesus said in John 10:34 that HE said to the people that ye are gods. Read John 10:34 very carefully and you might see this. HE said that HE told the people back then in Psalms. And, we know that Jehovah was the one who said it in Psalms 82:6. Therefore, through the transitive logic and reasoning, Jesus is Jehovah. End of story.
Wrong. The Holy Spirit gives us new life, not water. I know you can't see it because of your indoctrination. It's the Holy Spirit that. Baptism is something we should do, yes. However, you're in Christ when you believe. That's Scripture.
Your logic is twisted. If Jesus meant baptism, He would have said baptism. He never had a problem saying baptism in other places. Your cult twisted scripture to fit their doctrine, something all cults do. All I need is faith in Jesus and I'm staking my eternal soul on that. You're staking your eternal soul on a man, Joseph Smith. Good luck.
This is an excellent explanation.
Again, you want to read only part of the verse. It says baptism of water and of the Spirit. Both...Because of your indoctrination, you are unable to read that the word "and" means "in addition to." In other words, there are two necessary ordinances, baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost.
He said baptism. In fact, Jesus was baptized. So, if he felt it important enough to enter into the Kingdom of God, then why do you feel you don't have to? The fact that you want to try and manipulate "born of water" shows that you don't have the faith and belief to enter the Kingdom of God.
It doesn't jive with the many other scriptures spoken by Jesus Christ through his prophets and apostles. Again, it's the indoctrination of the Jesus "freaks" who think all they have to do is claim Jesus is their Savior and yet, deny the power of baptism thereof. Again, Jesus is talking to those born human beings old enough to sin. Not the unborn in the womb. There's nothing before nor after suggests this. It says, "Except a MAN be born of water. These people know they don't have the authority to baptized so they don't. And, that is good. It's better than those who think they can baptize without the priesthood authority like John the Baptist had.This is an excellent explanation.
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The word "Baptism" is not in that verse about being born again.
Yes, Jesus was baptized. So now you’re saying that Jesus wouldn't have entered the Kingdom of God unless He had been baptized. Man, you're very confused. There's another Christian cult that claims you can't be fully saved unless you speak in tongues. All I need is faith in what Jesus did, not what I do. I got baptized because I should be baptized, but it doesn't get me into the Kingdom of God. The Bible doesn't say that.
Yes it is. "born of water" = Baptism. Water Baptism is a symbolic ordinance depicting rebirth as one is cleaned from sin as they were when they first came into the world as a baby, clean from sin. A baby is not considered a "man" as "man" means old enough to sin. Stick your head in the sand from all the other versus in the NT that say the same things as well. Even the ones I posted to you.
Here we go again....Show me where "born of water = baptism". You are correct that Baptism is symbolic. SYMBOLIC.
Symbolic but necessary to enter into the kingdom of God. Born of Water = Baptism by water. That's the definition of Baptism.
Again, there is no Scripture saying baptism is necessary to enter the Kingdom. You still haven't shown me that only someone with Priesthood authority can baptize someone. Show me the verse.
