Ghost Guns

[woodwork201]

That’s the micro stamping that Democrats are always trying to push through, but that’s on casings not bullets.

But, thank the Lord, microstamping isn't yet being done.

 

[woodwork201]

For the same reason making meth in your home is illegal. There are some things that just shouldn't be done without a license/certification.

Like discussing human rights and the Constitution?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Just for clarification, the term ghost gun generally refers to any gun made for personal use that doesn't have a serial number. Many such guns are, indeed, made from 80% kits; many are not.

For the OP, an 80% kit is not at all an 80% gun. It is a gun receiver less than 80% complete. The 80% number is an ATF regulation that says the frame must not exceed 80% completion to be sold as, basically, a chunk of metal instead of as a gun. Those kits might be 10% complete, or any thing in between but cannot exceed 80% complete.

Even the 80% completion is not that simple. The incomplete portions can't be just any 20%; the undone portions must be significant to the operation of the gun and require significant skill and equipment to complete. The undone portions can not be something that can be resolved easily by just searching the Internet.

Many people build their own guns using forged frames or receivers, leaving 90+ per cent of the work yet to be done.

Many other people buy a chunk of aluminum or steel and, having the skill and equipment to do so, build their own from scratch.

But you're right, night_son; in the end it's just no one's business at all what guns someone has or builds. Adding a serial number to mass produced guns was not the law for the first 179 years of our nation's history and we didn't have 10% of the mass shootings we see today. Guns aren't the problem; schools are.

It is so much easier to go downtown and buy a gun with the serial rubbed out from a drug dealer than it is to buy a gun at a gun show or store.

Where do criminals really get their guns?

“The majority of firearms used in criminal activity are obtained illegally,” said David Chianese, a correspondent at Law Enforcement Today, published author and former NYPD detective. “Stricter or additional gun laws do not reduce gun violence.”

If someone uses a gun to murder someone else, then it should be the death penalty. The Democrats dont want that to happen because that lowers their voting base.

 

[Muhammed]

At the end of day, however, a fellow American's firearm ownership is none of your business. Keep that in mind.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

It shouldn't be legal for you to buy gasoline, diesel, baking soda, vinegar, fertilizer, cars, or pressure cookers by your logic--nor should you be allowed to have natural gas in your home or electricity as every one of those things could easily be used to kill multiple people.

It shouldn't be legal to buy Viagra either. Because you could get an erection that won't go down and die from that. (Just kidding. But, that thought came to mind). ☺

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

And i always thought that "what happened behind closed doors, was no bodies business". Those days are long gone i guess.

 

[2aguy]

My daughter was talking about a Ghost Gun earlier today. I had never heard of one, so I asked her about it. Here is what she told me:
She said it's a gun kit that can be ordered on the internet. Once the person gets the kit, they put the gun together using the enclosed instructions. There is no serial number on these guns, so if it is used to hurt or kill somebody, it can't be traced.
Also, the kits come in pistol sizes, up to long gun sizes.

This is insane. How can buying gun kits on the internet be legal?

Look, Karen….you dont have to fall for every anti-gun talking point you hear from some left wing source….

Cops don’t trace guns with serial numbers since actual criminals steal their guns or use a straw buyer

 

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[Brookser]

Cops don’t trace guns with serial numbers since actual criminals steal their guns or use a straw buyer

Extremely true, can you imagine actual criminal going to a gun store, registering and then using that gun for a crime. Can't see this happening unless that man was dropped head down when he was a child.

 

[miketx]

Extremely true, can you imagine actual criminal going to a gun store, registering and then using that gun for a crime. Can't see this happening unless that man was dropped head down when he was a child.

We don't have firearms registration.

 

[SavannahMann]

Why shouldn't a law-abiding adult be able to buy a gun on the internet? You can buy anything else. Guns don't kill people. PEOPLE kill people. Identify and control the criminals and mentally ill.

Ok. So how do we trace the gun to show the baddie had it?

 

[miketx]

Ok. So how do we trace the gun to show the baddie had it?

Just like they do now.

 

[SavannahMann]

Extremely true, can you imagine actual criminal going to a gun store, registering and then using that gun for a crime. Can't see this happening unless that man was dropped head down when he was a child.

Actually. They do.

The father in Georgia who shot at his daughters boyfriend. The McMichaels. Shall I continue?

By being able to trace the gun we can determine if a Straw Buyer was involved. How do you think we identify a straw buyer? Guns linked to several crimes come back to John Smith. Otherwise we would have to assume that John Smith is just another Prepper who is waiting for his chance to slaughter the enemies on the Left or Right or wherever his enemies are imagined to be.

 

[SavannahMann]

Just like they do now.

Ok. How did baddie get the gun? Did he steal it? He says no. Prove he did. Who assembled the gun for him? Is there a basement factory turning out dozens every week for use by criminals?

 

[miketx]

Ok. How did baddie get the gun? Did he steal it? He says no. Prove he did. Who assembled the gun for him? Is there a basement factory turning out dozens every week for use by criminals?

Triggered! Obama prolly gave it to him.

 

[SavannahMann]

Triggered! Obama prolly gave it to him.

So your definition of triggered is anyone who asks questions?

Wow. That’s awesome. I see your ODS is in full effect. The man hasn’t been in office for over six years and you are still obsessed.

 

[miketx]

So your definition of triggered is anyone who asks questions?

Wow. That’s awesome. I see your ODS is in full effect. The man hasn’t been in office for over six years and you are still obsessed.

Just stating what he did ya lying pos.

 

[SavannahMann]

Just stating what he did ya lying pos.

Now you see. Triggered usually means someone gets upset or angry. It is usually evidenced by either elevated voice or insults and swearing. So are you Triggered?

Perhaps you should take some time and relax. Perhaps you should seek some therapy so you can learn to let go things that happened more than half a decade ago.

 

[miketx]

Now you see. Triggered usually means someone gets upset or angry. It is usually evidenced by either elevated voice or insults and swearing. So are you Triggered?

Perhaps you should take some time and relax. Perhaps you should seek some therapy so you can learn to let go things that happened more than half a decade ago.

Wow, loon thinks I can somehow hear her. Bye libstain.

 

[SavannahMann]

Wow, loon thinks I can somehow hear her. Bye libstain.

Oh I knew you wouldn’t listen. The more hate in your heart the less you or anyone is willing to hear.