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It was reasonable to use force on Floyd. He was actively fighting the officers and he was a big guy. As far as keeping the knee on the neck after pulse was lost that is an issue for the courts and internal affair research. It is no reason for riots. In fact, less than 10 blacks died from law enforcement in 2019. Many more whites died at the hands of law enforcement. This is nothing more than an opportunity for Antifa and a small number of Anarchists to try to co-opt American values. I would say someone should be looking at the Soros' 'foundations' that fund radical groups.
I'm going to agree with you but I'm also going to add that Floyd was equally reckless.My whole problem with this is that the man was restrained and clearly not a threat to anyone, yet the cop kept applying the force for a full 8 minutes. That speaks of hatred and a zealousness at inflicting pain that is wholly unacceptable.What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.
NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.
He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.
Though we are on different sides of this issue....this is a good question and needs to be looked at. Floyd is also responsible for his fate....but I am having trouble trying to justify why this had to be fatal.....we could end up finding out that they guy was on his way to dying even if the cops never showed up.
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Plain and simple, this cop killed this man and did so because he wanted to kill this man. This is not what I would call First degree, as I don't think he planned the whole thing, but murder in the second degree is very much in play and will carry a life (40+ years) sentence.
Nothing less is acceptable.
When we see blatant brutality and wrong-doing by cops, we all need to stand up and say, "No." And we need to hold them accountable, regardless of what the Unions say.
When you fight with the cops, you get what you get. And you don't know what kind of struggle he was putting up. Being on meth and fentanyl, anything the cops did to him he probably wasn't even feeling. So I can't fault them for using a little more force than usual. That he ended up dying, as it turns out, benefited society in general. You can't call somebody who benefits society a murderer. Well.... maybe you could. But I am speaking about generally sane people.
He cut blood supply to one of his main arteries to his brain which supplies oxygen to the brain. For 2 minutes he laid motionless, so he was subdued. At the very least he should have let up on the pressure. He didn’t, he was reckless in his actions.
It was reasonable to use force on Floyd. He was actively fighting the officers and he was a big guy. As far as keeping the knee on the neck after pulse was lost that is an issue for the courts and internal affair research. It is no reason for riots. In fact, less than 10 blacks died from law enforcement in 2019. Many more whites died at the hands of law enforcement. This is nothing more than an opportunity for Antifa and a small number of Anarchists to try to co-opt American values. I would say someone should be looking at the Soros' 'foundations' that fund radical groups.
He was FUCKING DEAD for three minutes and they still kept it up. Was he struggling when he was fucking dead?
I suppose you, too, call yourself a conservative? You're not. A libertarian? You're not. An anarchist? You're not. SO, just what the fuck are you but a fucking idiot.
At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
Well, now you have been proven a liar.
Video: How George Floyd Was Killed in Police Custody
The Times has reconstructed the death of George Floyd on May 25, 2020. Security footage, witness videos and official documents show how a series of actions by officers turned fatal. (This video contains scenes of graphic violence.)www.nytimes.com
I'm not a liar. Any idiot can see that the knee on his neck couldn't have been crushing his windpipe. Which is the only thing the cop could have been doing to cause him to have problems breathing.
Floyd was loaded with fentanyl and meth. He already had a weak heart. The police should have recognized that he was having a heart attack.The one thing you either are unaware of or ignoring is the Use of Force Continuum which (to the best of my knowledge) is pounded into law enforcement officers in this nation over and over again. Basically it means if the subject escalates you escalate, if the subject de-escalated, you de-escalate. Let that sink in........At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
Floyd was on the ground and cuffed with multiple officers around him and was not resisting at that point, de-escalation, the officer should at that point have stood up and if Floyd had re-escalated then the officers could have easily re-subdued him. The officer kneeling on Floyd's neck the whole time should have known this and stood up when Floyd began complaining that he couldn't breathe, the officer made a bad decision that cost a man his life. At best the officer was negligent based on the Use of Force Continuum.
Cops are basically at war. Every day they risk their lives. Every day they experience the worst that mankind has to offer. Only an idiot would expect perfect behavior from them. I could maybe see him getting fired. But to be charged with murder is a fucking joke! Now if the cop had him down and then decided to shoot him in the head, THAT would have been murder. (kind of) Next, after Floyd started complaining about not being able to breathe, the cops could have quickly unlocked one of his handcuffs and ran away. It wouldn't have changed things. The guy was obviously having a heart attack. Did you know blacks are 20 times more likely to die before the age of 50 from heart failure than Whites? But no. Let's have all you fools supporting all the protests and riots instead.
He should have realized he had a weak heart and not start fighting with the cops. What happened was his fault. Not the cops.
Go play in traffic, racist scum. Or better yet, dive head first from atop the tallest building you can findFuck you, bootlickerAt least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
You appear to be a licker of negro boots. It's hard to get lower than that.
It was reasonable to use force on Floyd. He was actively fighting the officers and he was a big guy. As far as keeping the knee on the neck after pulse was lost that is an issue for the courts and internal affair research. It is no reason for riots. In fact, less than 10 blacks died from law enforcement in 2019. Many more whites died at the hands of law enforcement. This is nothing more than an opportunity for Antifa and a small number of Anarchists to try to co-opt American values. I would say someone should be looking at the Soros' 'foundations' that fund radical groups.
He was FUCKING DEAD for three minutes and they still kept it up. Was he struggling when he was fucking dead?
I suppose you, too, call yourself a conservative? You're not. A libertarian? You're not. An anarchist? You're not. SO, just what the fuck are you but a fucking idiot.
Floyd was a fentanyl user he was dead when he woke up that morning.
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9 minutes,,,3 of which he was already dead,,,No, fuck you.Explain to me what kind of "force" this knee is exerting on the side of the neck... not on the throat!What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.
NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.
He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.
Do you see a knee on Floyd's throat?
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EXPLAIN TO ME why a restrained and subdued suspect required that kind of brutality applied FOR 8 FUCKING MINUTES!
Explain it.
But not dead enough!
If you were unable to expand your lungs in order to be able to fill them with air due to being pinned down by the crushing weight of several people you wouldn't consider that as being unable to breath?When you fight with the cops, expect rough treatment. That is something the rioters and protesters should keep in mind. The only thing that matters is that the cop didn't kill Floyd. I saw the cops knee on Floyd's neck. It wasn't cutting off his windpipe. So when he said, "I can't Breathe!, it wasn't because of what the cop was doing.
Cardiopulminary arrest is always the cause of death.{...
(CNN)Experts hired by George Floyd's family and the Hennepin County Medical Examiner have concluded his death was a homicide, but they differ on what caused it.
The independent autopsy says Floyd died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure" when his neck and back were compressed by Minneapolis police officers during his arrest last week. The pressure cut off blood flow to his brain, that autopsy determined.
But the medical examiner's office, in its report also released Monday, said that the cause of death is "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." Cardiopulmonary arrest means Floyd's heart failed.
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Independent autopsy and Minnesota officials say George Floyd's death was homicide | CNN
Medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson found Floyd's manner of death to be homicide.
All Donald Trump needs to do is order a few special Ops teams into several cities and just take out everyone that is out on the streets. By sun rise the problem will be solved. They don't put up with BS in China or Russia.
Cardiopulminary arrest is always the cause of death.
Cardiopulminary arrest is always the cause of death.
If not the cause, it is certainly always associated with death.
Semantics.....When the heart stops for any length of time, death ensues. We generally look for the CAUSE of cardiopulminary arrest. Dr Bauden found that hypoxia was the cause of cardiopulminary arrest because Floyd had a knee in the back keeping his diaphram from being able to draw a breath along with the knee on the neck possibly stopping or slowing blood flow to the brain. It kind of looks like he got whacked by Chauvin. We do know they probably knew each other because they worked for decades at the same place.Cardiopulminary arrest is always the cause of death.
If not the cause, it is certainly always associated with death.
We do know they probably knew each other because they worked for decades at the same place.
Actually the truth is out, Coronavirus killed him.What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.
NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.
He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.
He was already cuffed. End of story.Another guy who know how large Floyd was, and how stupid you tards are thinking you could make him do anything by yourselves. FYI, beating up your sister doesn't make you able to force Floyd to do a damn thing by yourselves, in cuffs or not.
It's easy to control somebody with handcuffs behind their back. Especially if you sit them down on the side walk.
"If .... If ... If ...If " .... what if Napoleon had B-52's at Waterloo? It's not so easy if they're twice your size and feeling no pain. Ever seen the police squads that get sent to break up bar fights? They don't send the skinny guys with glasses.
Actually the truth is out, Coronavirus killed him.What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.
They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.
Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.
Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.
When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.
NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.
He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.
Or Chauvin could be a dirty cop and Floyd was gonna drop a dime. We agree on one thing though, Chauvin and Floyd probably knew each other.We do know they probably knew each other because they worked for decades at the same place.
All that tells us is he might of known what a violent asshole Floyd was from the beginning, and probably knew he was a doper who used meth, a nasty drug that causes erratic violent behavior in thugs already inclined to violent behavior. It also causes long term serious brain damage and chronic heart problems in habitual users, which is why a habitual user who is only 20 years old will soon look like they're 50 and be senile; one doesn't have to be high on it at the moment for its use to send tards into fits of violence and mindless stupidity.
