George Floyd. The Truth Is Out. (Finally)

[Dr Grump]

So out of the 1,000 people you arrested in your career... how many peacefully sat down on the side walk?
Just curious where you have that data.

It was only a couple of hundred. Quite a few actually. And those that didn't, we're easy to handle once I handcuffed them.

 

[Snouter]

The cop is now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Is it going to actually anger some when he is found guilty?

The thing is if it is a fail trial, that will make him even more likely to be found NOT GUILTY, as well as the other 3 cops. The Asian cop being charged when he was simply doing crowd control is ridiculous. Then what? Will the BLM savages and White ATIFA retards riot again?

The question for the defense team of the cops is how to explain that fatal overdoses of fentanyl usually result from respiratory collapse physicians often call "asphyxiation" while the private medical examiner hired by the prosecutor team alleged the death was "asphyxiation" thus agreeing with emergeny room physicians who deal with fentanyl overdoses but cleverly implying "strangulation" which obviously did not happen. Nobody conscious can talk if breathing is cut off.

 

[Dr Grump]

The cop is now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Is it going to actually anger some when he is found guilty?

The thing is if it is a fail trial, that will make him even more likely to be found not guilty, as well as the other 3 cops. The Asian cop being charged when he was simply doing crowd control is ridiculous.

He's held to a higher standard than most and should have told his buddy to get off Floyd's neck ya dumb racist fuck.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?

When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.

NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.

He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.

Though we are on different sides of this issue....this is a good question and needs to be looked at. Floyd is also responsible for his fate....but I am having trouble trying to justify why this had to be fatal.....we could end up finding out that they guy was on his way to dying even if the cops never showed up.

JO

JO

My whole problem with this is that the man was restrained and clearly not a threat to anyone, yet the cop kept applying the force for a full 8 minutes. That speaks of hatred and a zealousness at inflicting pain that is wholly unacceptable.

Plain and simple, this cop killed this man and did so because he wanted to kill this man. This is not what I would call First degree, as I don't think he planned the whole thing, but murder in the second degree is very much in play and will carry a life (40+ years) sentence.

Nothing less is acceptable.

When we see blatant brutality and wrong-doing by cops, we all need to stand up and say, "No." And we need to hold them accountable, regardless of what the Unions say.

When you fight with the cops, you get what you get. And you don't know what kind of struggle he was putting up. Being on meth and fentanyl, anything the cops did to him he probably wasn't even feeling. So I can't fault them for using a little more force than usual. That he ended up dying, as it turns out, benefited society in general. You can't call somebody who benefits society a murderer. Well.... maybe you could. But I am speaking about generally sane people.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?

When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.

NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.

He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.

Explain to me what kind of "force" this knee is exerting on the side of the neck... not on the throat!
Do you see a knee on Floyd's throat?
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No, fuck you.

EXPLAIN TO ME why a restrained and subdued suspect required that kind of brutality applied FOR 8 FUCKING MINUTES!

Explain it.

Retribution for fighting with them. No better explanation is necessary.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

What part of "only the force necessary to subdue" don't you understand?

When he stopped fighting, they had a legal duty to simply restrain him and put him in the back of the car.

NOTHING he did prior to that gang execution justified that cop putting a knee on his neck for 8 FUCKING MINUTES.

He murdered him. This is no hero cop. He is no better than the people who kill others.

Explain to me what kind of "force" this knee is exerting on the side of the neck... not on the throat!
Do you see a knee on Floyd's throat?
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No, fuck you.

EXPLAIN TO ME why a restrained and subdued suspect required that kind of brutality applied FOR 8 FUCKING MINUTES!

Explain it.

9 minutes,,,3 of which he was already dead,,,

But not dead enough!

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

He was also sniveling about 'not being able to breathe' while he was in that back seat, too. But, the cops are toast, they will hauled before a commie style tribune court, sentenced for fake crimes in a show trial, and then murdered in prison, as will the three innocents in Georgia, and the 'leadership' in both Parties will fall all over themselves taking credit for it. There will be many more to follow; find all those old Soviet films from the Stalin and Khrushchev eras for what happens to those working class types who run afoul of the Politically Correct Neo-Fascist 'Social Revolution' coming your way.

In post #83, I show a video of him apparently struggling with the cops while he was in the back seat of the cop car. If he was putting up a struggle, he must have been breathing ok.

 

[quarantine]

For 8 minutes and 46 seconds, George Floyd cried out for his mama and begged to be able to breathe.⁣
⁣
Watch. Listen to his last words. This is why we protest.

we must turn this moral moment into a moral movement, my friends

The pleas of worthless vile scum only appeal to worthless vile scum.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

if he was cuffed and in the back seat,why was he pulled back out?....

Yeah, he cuffed before the incident. So, don't see any rational justification for what happened.

Put a pair of cuffs on me, then stand there and wait for what I can do to you in 5 seconds.

But I wouldn't stand there. I would put you on the ground. And I would have 3 other people with me. And we would hold you down.

Now do tell... what are you going to do to me in that situation, without a knee on your neck? Please enlighten me.

Well at that point there was one thing certain that he wouldn't do. ANYTHING ELSE!!!

 

[Rigby5]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

He was also sniveling about 'not being able to breathe' while he was in that back seat, too. But, the cops are toast, they will hauled before a commie style tribune court, sentenced for fake crimes in a show trial, and then murdered in prison, as will the three innocents in Georgia, and the 'leadership' in both Parties will fall all over themselves taking credit for it. There will be many more to follow; find all those old Soviet films from the Stalin and Khrushchev eras for what happens to those working class types who run afoul of the Politically Correct Neo-Fascist 'Social Revolution' coming your way.

In post #83, I show a video of him apparently struggling with the cops while he was in the back seat of the cop car. If he was putting up a struggle, he must have been breathing ok.

It is never legal to put pressure on the neck because even if it doesn't prevent breathing, it disrupt the blood flow to the brain.
It is deliberate murder, and is not in the heat of passion, is 1st degree murder.
Struggling was never visible, but there was never even anything to arrest Floyd for, so struggling should be expected, since he was totally innocent and had not committed a crime.
There was no counterfeiting or forgery.
The store admitted they were mistaken.

 

[quarantine]

All four officers have lost their jobs. It's a shame that the racist cops make the most arrests (over the college educated and more educated ones), but they may not be fair either.

I'm going to take poster cred for this as I predicted the racist cop will fry along with the assisting officers. The OP and the rest have been speculation.

UPDATE 6/3/2020 11:44 AM:

The three other cops will be arrested and tried for:

" J Alexander Kueng, 26, Thomas Kiernan Lane, 37, and Tou Thao, 34, are each charged with aiding and abetting second degree murder - unintentional - while committing a felony, as well as aiding and abetting second degree manslaughter - culpable - negligence creating unreasonable risk. All are felony offenses."

The officer charged with second degree murder (upgraded):
"Three more Minneapolis police officers have been charged in the death of George Floyd, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison announced Wednesday.

Ellison also said charges against fired police officer Derek Chauvin were upgraded to second-degree murder.

“About 9 days ago, the world watched Floyd utter his very last words, ‘I can’t breathe,’ as he pled for his life,” Ellison said during a news conference. “The world heard Floyd call out for his mama and cried out ‘don’t kill me.’”

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article243239226.html#storylink=bignews_related

Maybe you would like to be a protester. I just started a thread called "Protesters SUCK!!!" How long it will last or be open to replies is a different matter. Give it a read and reply while you can.

 

[Dr Grump]

In post #83, I show a video of him apparently struggling with the cops while he was in the back seat of the cop car. If he was putting up a struggle, he must have been breathing ok.

You're right. He was...until the cop put his knee in his neck.

 

[quarantine]

For 8 minutes and 46 seconds, George Floyd cried out for his mama and begged to be able to breathe.⁣
⁣
Watch. Listen to his last words. This is why we protest.

we must turn this moral moment into a moral movement, my friends

So why did he resist arrest? If he did nothing wrong. With his previous criminal experiences he should have
been aware to resist was futile... in this case he died!

Maybe it was a form of suicide by cop to enrich his family.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

Well, now you have been proven a liar.

Video: How George Floyd Was Killed in Police Custody

The Times has reconstructed the death of George Floyd on May 25, 2020. Security footage, witness videos and official documents show how a series of actions by officers turned fatal. (This video contains scenes of graphic violence.)

www.nytimes.com

I'm not a liar. Any idiot can see that the knee on his neck couldn't have been crushing his windpipe. Which is the only thing the cop could have been doing to cause him to have problems breathing.

 

[quarantine]

The cop is now being charged with 2nd degree murder. Is it going to actually anger some when he is found guilty?

The thing is if it is a fail trial, that will make him even more likely to be found NOT GUILTY, as well as the other 3 cops. The Asian cop being charged when he was simply doing crowd control is ridiculous. Then what? Will the BLM savages and White ATIFA retards riot again?

The question for the defense team of the cops is how to explain that fatal overdoses of fentanyl usually result from respiratory collapse physicians often call "asphyxiation" while the private medical examiner hired by the prosecutor team alleged the death was "asphyxiation" thus agreeing with emergeny room physicians who deal with fentanyl overdoses but cleverly implying "strangulation" which obviously did not happen. Nobody conscious can talk if breathing is cut off.

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

He held the man down for almost 10 minutes after he "subdued" him.

The cops are not allowed to be executioners.

If it was most people, they could have been held in that position for hours without dying. Does that sound like much of an executioner?

That's why he's specifically charged with Manslaughter and Murder 3, basically Negligent or Reckless Homacide.

Being an ex-cop in a prison full of pissed off monkeys? Even if it's only for a few years, they may as well execute him.

Way to go full racist cracker.

You mean way to go full truthful. Also, ever try "honkey." Racist insults mean nothing to me because I'm not black. And therefore deserving of them.

 

[quarantine]

Why don't you look at the video again instead of being told what to think about it. That cop's knee on the back of his neck was reasonable and necessary. When he stopped moving, why should the cop have moved. All he was doing was holding him in place. Despite what all the idiots have to say, the cop wasn't cutting off his air. If Floyd couldn't breathe, it wasn't because of what the cop was doing. And after fighting with the cops, anybody who thinks he should have been given a kiss and told a bedtime story instead can piss off and die. The guy was a criminal. Deal with it.

You are such a fucking moron. Do you know how easy it is to control somebody in handcuffs? He could have sat him next to the car and he would not have been able to get up, or if he did, he would have been easily controlled. Not so much if he was handcuffed at the front of his body. But with the cuffs behind him, easily controlled.

And obviously you can see the force he put on his neck. That aside, of all the places the cop could have put his knee, the head and neck are the last. He could have put it on the small of his back or top of his back and had the same effect. There were also four cops there. You know shit about policing.

Read post #83. Then talk sensible.

 

[Christ_on_a_croissant]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

Fuck you, bootlicker

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

if he was cuffed and in the back seat,why was he pulled back out?....

Yeah, he cuffed before the incident. So, don't see any rational justification for what happened.

Put a pair of cuffs on me, then stand there and wait for what I can do to you in 5 seconds.

But I wouldn't stand there. I would put you on the ground. And I would have 3 other people with me. And we would hold you down.

Now do tell... what are you going to do to me in that situation, without a knee on your neck? Please enlighten me.

First you will be unconscious from a head butt, then your ribs kicked in, then your face stomped like a melon. That's why officers sit on violent thugs until the paddy wagon shows up, and never give them a chance to do damage; people can do all kinds of damage while in cuffs, not that tards like you would know about that stuff. Officers are not required to risk being injured just because some Burb Brat tards don't think they 'fight fair', idiot.

"But I wouldn't stand there. I would put you on the ground. And I would have 3 other people with me. And we would hold you down." No, you wouldn't, because you already proved you're a fucking idiot who 'saw no reason to sit on Floyd'.

I said specifically that there was no reason to put a knee on his neck. I didn't say, that there was no reason to put a knee on his shoulder blades, as taught in the police academy.

Moveover, you are on the ground, face down with your hands cuffed behind your back.

Let me help you out... you are not going to head butt me. You are not going to kick my ribs. You are not going to stomp my face. You are not going to do diddly jack squat.

Moreover, as I said before, I have 3 other people with me. In the nearly impossible chance you were to do anything to me, the 3 guys around me, will beat the snot out of you.

So.... No. Not happening sir. Big words, small mind.

More BS. You have no idea what you're talking about. You just like the idea of railroading cops, becasue you got a ticket or osmething once and the cop didn't fall for your whining, is all, and you've hated them ever since.

Or maybe he's black.

 

[Dr Grump]

Why don't you look at the video again instead of being told what to think about it. That cop's knee on the back of his neck was reasonable and necessary. When he stopped moving, why should the cop have moved. All he was doing was holding him in place. Despite what all the idiots have to say, the cop wasn't cutting off his air. If Floyd couldn't breathe, it wasn't because of what the cop was doing. And after fighting with the cops, anybody who thinks he should have been given a kiss and told a bedtime story instead can piss off and die. The guy was a criminal. Deal with it.

You are such a fucking moron. Do you know how easy it is to control somebody in handcuffs? He could have sat him next to the car and he would not have been able to get up, or if he did, he would have been easily controlled. Not so much if he was handcuffed at the front of his body. But with the cuffs behind him, easily controlled.

And obviously you can see the force he put on his neck. That aside, of all the places the cop could have put his knee, the head and neck are the last. He could have put it on the small of his back or top of his back and had the same effect. There were also four cops there. You know shit about policing.

Read post #83. Then talk sensible.

Read it. Doesn't change my mind one iota.

 

[quarantine]

At least more of the truth. For however long, the news has been making it look like the cops murdered a cooperative black guy they arrested, apparently because they had nothing better to do at the time. Causing many riots and protests. Well last night they finally showed a little more of the story.

They showed a cop on the passenger side back door trying to subdue the soon to be dead Floyd. No doubt Floyd was kicking at him. It showed the hero cop who would end up with his knee on the back of Floyd's neck to subdue him going to open the drivers side back door. What was shown at least showed Floyd putting up a fight.

Now, I would like to see the rest of the video. Which would show Floyd being dragged out of the drivers side back seat and how he ended up at the front of the cop car with the officers knee on the back of his neck. No doubt Floyd was putting up more struggle from the back seat area to the front of the cop car.

Why is the news wrongfully portraying the incident. They also made a big deal about the cop keeping his knee on Floyd's neck even after he stopped moving. But Floyd's condition wasn't caused by the knee on his neck. So why should the cop have moved it. Especially when just before then he was putting up a fight. All this coddling of criminals makes me sick. Least of all the negro ones. The cops don't have an easy job. They are almost like soldiers on the front line. A little excess on their part should be excused. They need to be supported. Not vilified.

The one thing you either are unaware of or ignoring is the Use of Force Continuum which (to the best of my knowledge) is pounded into law enforcement officers in this nation over and over again. Basically it means if the subject escalates you escalate, if the subject de-escalated, you de-escalate. Let that sink in........
Floyd was on the ground and cuffed with multiple officers around him and was not resisting at that point, de-escalation, the officer should at that point have stood up and if Floyd had re-escalated then the officers could have easily re-subdued him. The officer kneeling on Floyd's neck the whole time should have known this and stood up when Floyd began complaining that he couldn't breathe, the officer made a bad decision that cost a man his life. At best the officer was negligent based on the Use of Force Continuum.

Cops are basically at war. Every day they risk their lives. Every day they experience the worst that mankind has to offer. Only an idiot would expect perfect behavior from them. I could maybe see him getting fired. But to be charged with murder is a fucking joke! Now if the cop had him down and then decided to shoot him in the head, THAT would have been murder. (kind of) Next, after Floyd started complaining about not being able to breathe, the cops could have quickly unlocked one of his handcuffs and ran away. It wouldn't have changed things. The guy was obviously having a heart attack. Did you know blacks are 20 times more likely to die before the age of 50 from heart failure than Whites? But no. Let's have all you fools supporting all the protests and riots instead.

Floyd was loaded with fentanyl and meth. He already had a weak heart. The police should have recognized that he was having a heart attack.

He should have realized he had a weak heart and not start fighting with the cops. What happened was his fault. Not the cops.