"Gentleman" considered harmful in US

[rupol2000]

Declaring bankruptcy relieves debt. It does not replace capital lost.

Releases from responsibility for deceit and robbery of the working people.

The merchant is at the heart of capitalism. To remove them is to favor socialism

common lies. The capitalist and the communist are almost the same thing. These are the owners of the capital that is taken from the people

 

[rupol2000]

Once again you have gotten off topic.

But merchant class is the first way the lower classes could rise to a higher station through hard work.

Everything is the opposite. The merchant stops robbing the people and the people become richer

 

[WinterBorn]

Releases from responsibility for deceit and robbery of the working people.

common lies. The capitalist and the communist are almost the same thing. These are the owners of the capital that is taken from the people

The capitalist and the communist are certainly NOT the same things. Who brings goods and services in for the working people? The aristocracy?

The aristocracy or the government takes capital from the people. The merchant provides goods for which the working people trade their capital.

 

[WinterBorn]

Everything is the opposite. The merchant stops robbing the people and the people become richer

Become richer how? By being forced to seek out and ship their own goods?

 

[rupol2000]

The capitalist and the communist are certainly NOT the same things. Who brings goods and services in for the working people?

transporters

 

[rupol2000]

Become richer how?

due to lack of robbery

 

[WinterBorn]

transporters

What? Who pays them to do that? The individual working class people? Do they have to go around and collect the money from each worker?

 

[WinterBorn]

due to lack of robbery

It is not robbery. The working class have a choice as to whether they want to pay for the goods the merchant provides.

 

[WinterBorn]

transporters

These "transporters" travel and buy goods (with their own money) and then transport it back to the working class?

 

[rupol2000]

It is not robbery. The working class have a choice as to whether they want to pay for the goods the merchant provides.

No choice. They have economic coercion and the imposition of consumption. Capital out of their control. And this has nothing to do with it at all. The robbery goes through finances and the distribution of tax proceeds

 

[rupol2000]

These "transporters" travel and buy goods (with their own money) and then transport it back to the working class?

These are workers who deliver goods on order.

 

[Moonglow]

When did we stop calling cowboys goat ropers?

 

[rupol2000]

When did we stop calling cowboys goat ropers?

"you" are nothing. Who cares about your barking?

 

[WinterBorn]

These are workers who deliver goods on order.

Workers? Who pays them?

 

[rupol2000]

Workers? Who pays them?

buyer and seller in half

 

[WinterBorn]

buyer and seller in half

So you have removed a person, but the transactions continue.

 

[rupol2000]

So you have removed a person, but the transactions continue.

This is exactly what is needed - the removal of the trading caste from control over the flow of goods

 

[WinterBorn]

This is exactly what is needed - the removal of the trading caste from control over the flow of goods

They are not removed. You just want to control who holds the position. Again, it is socialism.


Let's look at a scenario you might understand.

If it costs the Seller $10 to produce his item.
And the Transporters want $3 to transport the goods.
And the Seller wants to make a profit of $2.
The Buyer (whether a merchant or working people) will have to pay $15 for the item.

 

[rupol2000]

They are not removed

You fucking idiots are all around right now. You can't tell a salesman or a courier from a merchant, new fucking experts in everything

 

[WinterBorn]

You fucking idiots are all around right now. You can't tell a salesman or a courier from a merchant, new fucking experts in everything

I am not the one claiming that commerce is the downfall of a culture. Nor am I the one who does not grasp the concept of a gentleman. So you are the idiot.