"Gentleman" considered harmful in US

[WinterBorn]

This is again chivalry and not British huckstering. The British style is usually treacherous, with triks and trash talk. This is contrary to chivalry and masculine style.

That you think American women do not like gentlemen shows your lack of knowledge of American women.

I am sure there are some that do not want to be treated with respect. But for every one that thinks that way, there are a dozen who prefer a gentleman, respect and honor.

 

[WinterBorn]

No matter. Basketball politics encourage softness and it was from bery begining

Softness? Have you ever played? It requires discipline and toughness just to stay with the game. Getting up and down the court, guarding one minute, trying to score the next.

You are wrong on this one. Baseball is softer than basketball.

 

[rupol2000]

That you think American women do not like gentlemen shows your lack of knowledge of American women.

I am sure there are some that do not want to be treated with respect. But for every one that thinks that way, there are a dozen who prefer a gentleman, respect and honor.

Not all American woman are real Americans. For example, the vulgar image of Monroe is not the image of a real American, but the image of a German

 

[WinterBorn]

Not all American woman are real Americans. For example, the vulgar image of Monroe is not the image of a real American, but the image of a German

But you think the women who are not vulgar want a man who IS vulgar?

 

[rupol2000]

The image of Brittany Murphy is a real American. Her character did not allow her to play such roles as Marilyn Monroe, she is always hot, passionate and infantile-charming

 

[braalian]

Natural American boxing: not gentle

You’re taking the “gentle” in gentlemen too literally.

Men who have jobs that require them to be very un-gentle at times (boxers, bouncers, cops, whatever) can still 100% be gentlemen.

 

[rupol2000]

But you think the women who are not vulgar want a man who IS vulgar?

Not. They are romantic, they want cowboys and knights

 

[WinterBorn]

The image of Brittany Murphy is a real American. Her character did not allow her to play such roles as Marilyn Monroe, she is always hot, passionate and infantile-charming

Oh, and you think she wanted a man who lacked respect or honor?

 

[rupol2000]

You’re taking the “gentle” in gentlemen too literally.

Etymology does not appear in a vacuum. It comes from the non-military type of man, merchant and official. British-German type

 

[WinterBorn]

Not. They are romantic, they want cowboys and knights

Being a cowboy does not rule out being a gentleman.

And nothing is more romantic than a gentleman. As Braalian said, you are mistaking the meaning of the word "gentleman". The gentleman is polite and respectful. But if you push him you will find he is far from weak.

 

[rupol2000]

Oh, and you think she wanted a man who lacked respect or honor?

Don't confuse a cunning British merchant with an honest knight. This is the opposite type.

 

[WinterBorn]

Etymology does not appear in a vacuum. It comes from the non-military type of man, merchant and official. British-German type

Mot true. In fact, officers in the US military are expected to conduct themselves as gentlemen, as in "An officer and a gentleman".

No, it does not develop in a vacuum. Being a gentleman means you are not a barbarian.

 

[WinterBorn]

Don't confuse a cunning British merchant with an honest knight. This is the opposite type.

I am not concerned about the British.

A gentleman is respectful and honorable. But you seem to think Brittany Murphy would not want a man who is respectful and honorable.

 

[rupol2000]

Being a cowboy does not rule out being a gentleman.

And nothing is more romantic than a gentleman. As Braalian said, you are mistaking the meaning of the word "gentleman". The gentleman is polite and respectful. But if you push him you will find he is far from weak.

This is the weak type. They are used to acting in a pack of dogs, as it happened historically. They robbed civilians, carried out raids, and when they saw resistance, they fled. It was they, the robbers and pirates, who were the merchants. This is the prototype of a gentleman.

This is still noticeable in their bodies, they are most often soft-bodied. Even the boxer Tyson Fury does not have a masculine body, his proportions are closer to those of a woman and he has very thin ankles, legs not adapted to war and the art of a cavalryman.

 

[rupol2000]

I am not concerned about the British.

A gentleman is respectful and honorable. But you seem to think Brittany Murphy would not want a man who is respectful and honorable.

There may be different meanings, but our task is to use concepts that clearly distinguish between a merchant and a warrior.

 

[WinterBorn]

This is the weak type. They are used to acting in a pack of dogs, as it happened historically. They robbed civilians, carried out raids, and when they saw resistance, they fled. It was they, the robbers and pirates, who were the merchants. This is the prototype of a gentleman.

This is still noticeable in their bodies, they are most often soft-bodied. Even the boxer Tyson Fury does not have a masculine body, his proportions are closer to those of a woman and he has very thin ankles, legs not adapted to war and the art of a cavalryman.

Absolute bullshit.

The gentleman is not weak. He is strong enough to know it and not have to prove it. Historically there were gangs of ruffians, not gentleman. Your claim that they acted in packs is ridiculous. They stood for a certain way of life that treated other with respect. And they would (and will) stand for that integrity at their own peril.

Being a gentleman is not about body type.

 

[WinterBorn]

There may be different meanings, but our task is to use concepts that clearly distinguish between a merchant and a warrior.

There is one meaning for gentleman. And you appear unable to grasp it.

It is not about whether someone is a merchant or a warrior. It is about how they face the world and how they treat others.

Military men were expected to be gentlemen. Merchants were often gentlemen as well. It is a function of manners and dignity.

 

[rupol2000]

Absolute bullshit.

The gentleman is not weak. He is strong enough to know it and not have to prove it. Historically there were gangs of ruffians, not gentleman. Your claim that they acted in packs is ridiculous. They stood for a certain way of life that treated other with respect. And they would (and will) stand for that integrity at their own peril.

Being a gentleman is not about body type.

the bottom line is that on the one hand there were German merchants and pirates, on the other hand the Huns and knights from the east, and they opposed each other. Modern Britain is the product of these German merchants and the power of women.



If we do not separate these concepts clearly, we will not build a right society. Fraudsters will always impersonate real men and slip trade instead of military valuables.

 

[WinterBorn]

the bottom line is that on the one hand there were German merchants and pirates, on the other hand the Huns and knights from the east, and they opposed each other. Modern Britain is the product of these German merchants and the power of women.



If we do not separate these concepts clearly, we will not build a right society. Fraudsters will always impersonate real men and slip trade instead of military valuables.

Then use another word for what you mean. The term "gentleman" has meaning. It involves manners, respect for yourself and other. It involves not being rude or crude.

In the US, the South is renowned for such behavior. I am a southern gentleman. But do not mistake that for being weak.

 

[rupol2000]

Then use another word for what you mean. The term "gentleman" has meaning. It involves manners, respect for yourself and other. It involves not being rude or crude.

In the US, the South is renowned for such behavior. I am a southern gentleman. But do not mistake that for being weak.

The manners of a British merchant and official, alien to America. It makes sense to get rid of it, like many other things, This is a step towards breaking the US with Europe and de-Germanizing the US