Gen. Mattis apparently has sworn an oath to a Constitution he has not read

[Coyote]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

When he was Sec. of War, you barking moonbats were howling about how he was going to get us into WW VI, and you were probably right.

Now he's a "patriot".

Does your sanctimony know any bounds?

Does your lying know no bounds?

I always liked him. He (and Kelly) were among the sparse cabinet appointments I liked.

I was amazed Mattis hung on as long as he did.

The right LOVED Mattis.

Until they didn't.

Which coincided with his conflict with Trump.

Yeah, sure you did....I never liked him....Stunk to high heaven of neocon Bushbot spook shit....The two silly attacks on Syria on the flimsiest of supposed evidence confirmed my suspicions.

But you just keep it up with the pretense and the wind socking....It's not surprising to anyone anymore.

Sorry dude, keep spewing your lies. My posting history is pretty consistent on Mattis and easy to find.

 

[Flash]

Mattis is a shithead. An embarassement to the Marine Corps

This is the kind of thing Trump was trying to prevent.

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You used to adore Mattis, now he's a "shithead"?

You are confused Moon Bat.

I never admired any Marine General. Marines are homosexual crayon eaters, including the Generals.

However, you stupid hypocritical Moon Bats hated him when he worked for Trump and love him now.

 

[Coyote]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

Mattis is a real disappointment. He engages in slander of Trump, and yet he never provides any facts to show justification for the trash talk he unloaded.

Where does he get off making a personal opinion claiming Trump divides the nation, all Trump has done is offer hope and positivity. Where is his proof of that? All this man did was shoot spitballs at Trump, like an internet troll. So sad. And then Kelly follows up on this crap?

You know...when two honorable, high ranking military men who also served in Trump's administration start talking like this - maybe the problem is TRUMP not them.

 

[Flash]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Trump is lying once again

Mattis told him to go fuk himself

So TRUMP FIRED THE MOTHERFUCKER

Nope. Mattis resigned rather than carry out a policy he felt would be disastrous.

Trump, ever the fragile snowflake, tried to make believe that he fired Mattis, but it’s a lie.

'The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened': John Kelly defends Mattis

Kelly called Mattis “an honorable man” and described Trump’s Twitter attack on the former Defense secretary as “nasty.”

www.politico.com

Funny thing. Nobody elected Mattis to be Commander in Chief. His job in the military was to do what the elected Cmmander in Chief told him to do, like not to have a stupid interventionist war in Syria.

 

[Coyote]

Mattis is a shithead. An embarassement to the Marine Corps

This is the kind of thing Trump was trying to prevent.

View attachment 345767

You used to adore Mattis, now he's a "shithead"?

You are confused Moon Bat.

I never admired any Marine General. Marines are homosexual crayon eaters, including the Generals.

However, you stupid hypocritical Moon Bats hated him when he worked for Trump and love him now.

Not confused at all.

I think Mattis will make a great Secretary of Defense. Probably the best since Dick Cheney.

 

[Shelzin]

You know...when two honorable, high ranking military men who also served in Trump's administration start talking like this - maybe the problem is TRUMP not them.

Might be... But the argument to authority doesn't mean much to most people. Just like I believe the president can be wrong, I also think high ranking military men can be.

Unless they make a argument in a logical manner that addresses the things I care about and bring new information to the table I may not know, or thought about before... Their opinions don't mean anything to me.

 

[Coyote]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Trump is lying once again

Mattis told him to go fuk himself

So TRUMP FIRED THE MOTHERFUCKER

Nope. Mattis resigned rather than carry out a policy he felt would be disastrous.

Trump, ever the fragile snowflake, tried to make believe that he fired Mattis, but it’s a lie.

'The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened': John Kelly defends Mattis

Kelly called Mattis “an honorable man” and described Trump’s Twitter attack on the former Defense secretary as “nasty.”

www.politico.com

Funny thing. Nobody elected Mattis to be Commander in Chief. His job in the military was to do what the elected Cmmander in Chief told him to do, like not to have a stupid interventionist war in Syria.

Which is why he ended up resigning as was appropriate.

You know...when two honorable, high ranking military men who also served in Trump's administration start talking like this - maybe the problem is TRUMP not them.

Might be... But the argument to authority doesn't mean much to most people. Just like I believe the president can be wrong, I also think high ranking military men can be.

Unless they make a argument in a logical manner that addresses the things I care about and bring new information to the table I may not know, or thought about before... Their opinions don't mean anything to me.

Yes, they can be. But when more than one speaks out - which in itself is a rarity among a group notoriously closed-mouthed in criticism - it lends credibility.

 

[Coyote]

General Mattis is a patriot that believes in American intervention and foreign nation occupation and rebuilding and changing hearts and minds of the populous of that nation....he and his ilk were proven wrong....it simply can not be done...but try and tell people like Mad Dog Mattis that and it will be like talking to a wall.....

Look around people...look at your returning soldiers from that kind of thinking....good men and women left body parts on foreign soil for that kind of thinking...so now here comes Trump...he wants our men and women home and that shows the Mattis crowd up...and they don't like it....

Mattis is one of those old school neocons that thinks occupying and gradually converting a native population to e the true goal.

Well, reducing fighting is nice, but you have to kill the enemy that has taken to the field against you first. First the Sword then the Olive Branch.

Mattis is a showboating coward.

The only enemy is Trump and his supporters. You clearly are a dictatorial thug. If there is any sedition going on, it is Trump who is the leader. He ignores the Constitution as he attempts to seize more power as dictators do.

Actually he is the the absolute antithesis of Dictator -
He has dismantled draconian legislation and regulation - to give people back the power that other Presidents (and legislators )have improperly taken.
You really shouldn't use words that you don't know the meaning of in public.

You need to get out more if you think those regulations were "draconian". Or, maybe you should look up the meaning of the word.

 

[Shelzin]

Yes, they can be. But when more than one speaks out - which in itself is a rarity among a group notoriously closed-mouthed in criticism - it lends credibility.

The amount doesn't do anything either without they make a argument in a logical manner that addresses the things I care about and bring new information to the table I may not know, or thought about before... Their opinions don't mean anything to me.

 

[johnwk]

Are you actually claiming the protests and riots are an insurrection?

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.
   
   
   
   
   ​
   
   
   

so....

you are saying....

that the conservative militia who show up at capital buildings HEAVILY ARMED and say "we are willing to kill democrats in order to establish a christian conservative fascist dictatorship"

are threatening an INSURRECTION?

(probably because they can't get an ERECTION)

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to paralyze and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

 

[Crepitus]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

You may be a little confused.

Trump fired him because he wouldn't do what the Commander in Chief told him to do. He didn't learn the concept of Chain of Command when he was in the military. You would think that being a four star general he would have learned that, wouldn't you?

Mattis is cut from the same cloth that the McCain RINO in that both love war, and monger over it. Just like McCain did, Mattis whines to no end when he cannot get his way with Trump for having more war.

Well that's a lie.

Proof?

Well for starters, tRump said it so it's easy to tell.

Secondly, here's. Fact check for ya:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump Skews History by Saying He Fired Mattis

When Jim Mattis announced his resignation as defense secretary, President Donald Trump thanked him for “tremendous progress” in helping to rebuild the military and for “retiring with distinction.” Times changed and so did Trump's story about losing his Pentagon chief.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Crepitus]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

You may be a little confused.

Trump fired him because he wouldn't do what the Commander in Chief told him to do. He didn't learn the concept of Chain of Command when he was in the military. You would think that being a four star general he would have learned that, wouldn't you?

Mattis is cut from the same cloth that the McCain RINO in that both love war, and monger over it. Just like McCain did, Mattis whines to no end when he cannot get his way with Trump for having more war.

Well that's a lie.

Proof?

Dude when he has nothing that's all he says. Don't expect him to reply in any real fashion.

Well that's a lie as well.

 

[Care4all]

General Mattis is a patriot that believes in American intervention and foreign nation occupation and rebuilding and changing hearts and minds of the populous of that nation....he and his ilk were proven wrong....it simply can not be done...but try and tell people like Mad Dog Mattis that and it will be like talking to a wall.....

Look around people...look at your returning soldiers from that kind of thinking....good men and women left body parts on foreign soil for that kind of thinking...so now here comes Trump...he wants our men and women home and that shows the Mattis crowd up...and they don't like it....

Mattis certainly has not embraced General George Washington's advice regarding foreign entanglements:

"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests." Washington's Farewell Address 1796

JWK


The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a socialist’s nightmare and not the American Dream

Are you actually claiming the protests and riots are an insurrection?

The protesters were not violent who were fired on by our own government with rubber bullets, smoke canisters and pepper ball tear gas, with a helicopter hovering low above to wind them out... So to clear them out for the President' s awkward walk across the park to St John's, so he could fumble with a Bible for a photo op.

Rioters... looters, vandals, rock throwers, car and store destroyers, are criminals and should be arrested, and charged.

But all those protesting people fired on by park police and other govt forces, Were Peaceful.... And somebody's ass should be grass, for pulling that unconstitutional stunt imo.

Kewl story
None of that actually happened that way

From ALL VIEWS and video, there was no violence..... if you have some video of why the park police and other secret GOVT entities fired upon these protesters, then post it.... by all means, please show us this RIOT that the police and govt forces were trying to break up....

Show it.... now,

If you want to prove what I said, was not true....just give us some proof.

If its not an insurrection what would look differently if it were?...

An insurrection as in the term insurrection in the Insurrection Act, is an armed violent attack on government to remove the government and TAKE OVER the government.

 

[Crepitus]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

Yep.....basically Trump wanted to bring the troops home and Mattus loves to be at war.

Lol, no.

Try again, kid.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You need to get out more if you think those regulations were "draconian". Or, maybe you should look up the meaning of the word.

Obama's regs, for the most part, were not so bad/draconian in and of themselves, but there were so damned many of them.

It made the cost of a business start up so high it was in sum Draconian, for sure.

 

[Coyote]

Are you actually claiming the protests and riots are an insurrection?

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.
   
   
   
   
   ​
   
   
   

so....

you are saying....

that the conservative militia who show up at capital buildings HEAVILY ARMED and say "we are willing to kill democrats in order to establish a christian conservative fascist dictatorship"

are threatening an INSURRECTION?

(probably because they can't get an ERECTION)

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party socialist/communist leadership to paralyze and destroy our free market, free enterprise system.

You call the media (excluding I am sure, rightwing media) a fifth column. That is just crazy. We are incredibly fortunate to have a free media.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You call the media (excluding I am sure, rightwing media) a fifth column. That is just crazy. We are incredibly fortunate to have a free media.

Corporate owned media is NOT free media.

They just have a different set of masters telling them what to publish.

All media needs to be independent, solely local and self owned.

And foreign elements should NEVER be allowed to own our media.

 

[Care4all]

You call the media (excluding I am sure, rightwing media) a fifth column. That is just crazy. We are incredibly fortunate to have a free media.

Corporate owned media is N OT free media.

They just have a different set of masters telling them what to publish.

All media needs to be independent, solely local and self owned.

And foreign elements should NEVER be allowed to own our media.

Agree with the foreign elements, that's a given! And a major concern of our founders, of foreign interference in our own affairs!

But as far as independence, the constitutional requirement is that the press is Independent of the Government.

The Press was NEVER unbiased.... news papers have always seemed to lean one way or the other.... that does not mean that the news should not be accurate!

But News Papers for years have pushed agendas, even Thomas Paine's, and Benjamin Franklin's almanacs etc leaned.

News Papers are known for picking Candidates and supporting them, in the political arena.

It's good to have varying partisanship leanings in the different press..... it makes the Dem leaning point out the faults of the right leaning govt, and makes the Repub leaning, point out the faults of the left leaning.... always looking for wrong doing from the ''other side'' actually is a pretty good watchdog, on our govt...imo.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Agree with the foreign elements, that's a given! And a major concern of our founders, of foreign interference in our own affairs!
But as far as independence, the constitutional requirement is that the press is Independent of the Government.
The Press was NEVER unbiased.... news papers have always seemed to lean one way or the other.... that does not mean that the news should not be accurate!
But News Papers for years have pushed agendas, even Thomas Paine's, and Benjamin Franklin's almanacs etc leaned.
News Papers are known for picking Candidates and supporting them, in the political arena.
It's good to have varying partisanship leanings in the different press..... it makes the Dem leaning point out the faults of the right leaning govt, and makes the Repub leaning, point out the faults of the left leaning.... always looking for wrong doing from the ''other side'' actually is a pretty good watchdog, on our govt...imo.

We used to have laws preventing a monopolization of the local media, like a company could own only one TV station , one newspaper and a few radio stations, but I thought it did not go far enough, but all that is gone now.

One corporation can control all the media in a locale and deprive the public of badly needed information.

 

[mudwhistle]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

Yep.....basically Trump wanted to bring the troops home and Mattus loves to be at war.

Lol, no.

Try again, kid.

Nope...that was the big tiff when he got fired.
Trump wanted to pull out of Syria.