Gen. Mattis apparently has sworn an oath to a Constitution he has not read

[mudwhistle]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

Yep.....basically Trump wanted to bring the troops home and Mattus loves to be at war.

 

[mudwhistle]

Are you actually claiming the protests and riots are an insurrection?

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.
   
   
   
   
   ​
   
   
   

What is the legal definition of insurrection?

Insurrection Law and Legal Definition. Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence.
In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

The following is a case law defining Insurrection:

Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.” [Younis Bros. & Co. v. Cigna Worldwide Ins. Co., 899 F. Supp. 1385, 1392-1393 (E.D. Pa. 1995)]
Insurrection Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

definitions.uslegal.com/i/insurrection/

Ruh Roh.

You just spelled out what the left is attempting to do.

Jesus you're dumb.

 

[mudwhistle]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Trump is lying once again

Mattis told him to go fuk himself

So TRUMP FIRED THE MOTHERFUCKER

 

[White 6]

He has been a patriot all of his life.

Yeah...he's the sort of "patriot" who thinks destructive deadly riots are great stuff. By the way, if your credibility was a commodity item you couldn't give it away.

Obama fired the "patriot" Mattis. What does that make Obamaa?


By the way you have latched onto a lie and you are spreading it around like the Covid virus (which is just how the media likes it) claiming that Trump ordered the rioters dispersed just so he could walk over and have his picture taken in front of a church he has been so close to for three years now he could hit with a frisbee.

The fact is the St. John's church had been vandalized and set on fire by rioters and they had also attacked
the police with rocks and bottles and started a bonfire.
Or would you prefer this church be burned down to deny Donald the opportunity to have his picture taken there? Goebels knew long ago you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

He didn't stick around (quitting trump) when he realized trump only wanted a poster-boy photo op, not and advisor. trump has a real problem with photo ops as if he thinks they control the narrative. They don't

Bullshit! Are you claiming James Mattis was completely unaware that Donald Trump liked
publicity before he joined up and was completely caught by surprise by his personality?
You don't seem that dumb but maybe you are.

Where did I say "Trump ordered the rioters dispersed just so he could walk over and have his picture taken in front of a church he has been so close to for three years now he could hit with a frisbee." I am aware some clergy said they suffered from tear gas used to clear it. My biggest kick was trump using it for a photo op and compounding it by using the bible as a photo op. Surprised he wasn't struck by lightening.
You said "
Are you claiming James Mattis was completely unaware that Donald Trump liked
publicity before he joined up and was completely caught by surprise by his personality?" I said here or on another thread that Mattis probably though he could be a sobering influence, but found out he was nothing to the president but a photo op and quit him.
You think people are dumb, yet you cannot follow who says what or quote it correctly. How's that for intelligence Khan. I scoff at the superior intellect.

 

[colfax_m]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

I seem to remember a time when the left demonized Mattis. Now suddenly they have canonized him.

You’re just making stuff up. Mattis was seen as the adult in the room by both sides. We all knew it was a bad turn when he resigned.

 

[colfax_m]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Trump is lying once again

Mattis told him to go fuk himself

So TRUMP FIRED THE MOTHERFUCKER

Nope. Mattis resigned rather than carry out a policy he felt would be disastrous.

Trump, ever the fragile snowflake, tried to make believe that he fired Mattis, but it’s a lie.

'The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened': John Kelly defends Mattis

Kelly called Mattis “an honorable man” and described Trump’s Twitter attack on the former Defense secretary as “nasty.”

www.politico.com

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I am aware some clergy said they suffered from tear gas used to clear it. My biggest kick was trump using it for a photo op and compounding it by using the bible as a photo op. Surprised he wasn't struck by lightening.

Bill Clinton was never struck down with his big prop stage bible. No reason to think Trump would be.
Every president whoever lived wants to give the public a good impression of himself. I guess it's just when Trump does it that we should all be horrified and disgusted.

So you aren't claiming that Trump just rousted a bunch of protesters (that set the church on fire and
showered National Guard troops with projectiles meant to damage and injure) just so he could take a photo
there? Hmmm....if you are to be believed that makes you one of a kind.
I'm not sure you can be believed however.

Are you claiming James Mattis was completely unaware that Donald Trump liked
publicity before he joined up and was completely caught by surprise by his personality?" I said here or on another thread that Mattis probably though he could be a sobering influence, but found out he was nothing to the president but a photo op and quit him.
You think people are dumb, yet you cannot follow who says what or quote it correctly. How's that for intelligence Khan. I scoff at the superior intellect.

So James Mattis thought by the sheer will power of his own personality he would change the life
long ingrained habits of a 77 year old man, who is president and supposedly an ego maniac, yet?

I think Mattis has demonstrated he's a nut job and Trump is well rid of him. He's not the first general
(Douglas MacArthur) to be sent packing by a US president.

 

[Wapasha]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

Mattis is a real disappointment. He engages in slander of Trump, and yet he never provides any facts to show justification for the trash talk he unloaded.

Where does he get off making a personal opinion claiming Trump divides the nation, all Trump has done is offer hope and positivity. Where is his proof of that? All this man did was shoot spitballs at Trump, like an internet troll. So sad. And then Kelly follows up on this crap?

 

[anynameyouwish]

Are you actually claiming the protests and riots are an insurrection?

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.
   
   
   
   
   ​
   
   
   

so....

you are saying....

that the conservative militia who show up at capital buildings HEAVILY ARMED and say "we are willing to kill democrats in order to establish a christian conservative fascist dictatorship"

are threatening an INSURRECTION?

(probably because they can't get an ERECTION)

 

[Wapasha]

Nope. Mattis resigned rather than carry out a policy he felt would be disastrous.

Trump, ever the fragile snowflake, tried to make believe that he fired Mattis, but it’s a lie.

'The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened': John Kelly defends Mattis

Kelly called Mattis “an honorable man” and described Trump’s Twitter attack on the former Defense secretary as “nasty.”

www.politico.com

Yeah, like when Trump stopped the use of taxpayer funding of the military for global warming, and Trump ending the charade of the Iran nuke deal.

Here's a clue to Gen. Mattis, if we are going to try and sign a treaty with Iran over that nuke deal, how about we not spit on the Constitution by side stepping the Treaty process??? If Mattis gave a crap about the Constitution, why didn't he speak out all the times Obama flagrantly and purposely violated the Constitution?

Even after Obama spent months telling the people the Constitution forbid him from just making up immigration law, he went ahead and did it anyway, and both Kelly and Mattis were silent.

 

[Wapasha]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Well that's a lie.

Mattie quit in protest over the Syrian withdrawal IIRC.

Yep.....basically Trump wanted to bring the troops home and Mattus loves to be at war.

Perpetual war, that does nothing to protect US lives. Glad we removed most US forces from Syria.

I know, now the dems and the neverTrumpers are pro-war and prefer to work around the Constitution, rather than follow it.

 

[Wapasha]

so....

you are saying....

So, I'm saying.... did Mattis offer any context to all his trash talking of Trump? No, all he did was troll Trump, without showing any justification.

 

[Flash]

The problem with asking for someone to give you a letter of resignation, which you do as a courtesy to help them save face, is that it is then harder to say you fired them. I did fire James Mattis. He was no good for Obama, who fired him also, and was no good for me!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2020

Trump is lying once again

Mattis told him to go fuk himself

So TRUMP FIRED THE MOTHERFUCKER

Nope. Mattis resigned rather than carry out a policy he felt would be disastrous.

Trump, ever the fragile snowflake, tried to make believe that he fired Mattis, but it’s a lie.

'The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened': John Kelly defends Mattis

Kelly called Mattis “an honorable man” and described Trump’s Twitter attack on the former Defense secretary as “nasty.”

www.politico.com

Proof?

 

[White 6]

I am aware some clergy said they suffered from tear gas used to clear it. My biggest kick was trump using it for a photo op and compounding it by using the bible as a photo op. Surprised he wasn't struck by lightening.

Bill Clinton was never struck down with his big prop stage bible. No reason to think Trump would be.
Every president whoever lived wants to give the public a good impression of himself. I guess it's just when Trump does it that we should all be horrified and disgusted.

So you aren't claiming that Trump just rousted a bunch of protesters (that set the church on fire and
showered National Guard troops with projectiles meant to damage and injure) just so he could take a photo
there? Hmmm....if you are to be believed that makes you one of a kind.
I'm not sure you can be believed however.

Are you claiming James Mattis was completely unaware that Donald Trump liked
publicity before he joined up and was completely caught by surprise by his personality?" I said here or on another thread that Mattis probably though he could be a sobering influence, but found out he was nothing to the president but a photo op and quit him.
You think people are dumb, yet you cannot follow who says what or quote it correctly. How's that for intelligence Khan. I scoff at the superior intellect.

So James Mattis thought by the sheer will power of his own personality he would change the life
long ingrained habits of a 77 year old man, who is president and supposedly an ego maniac, yet?

I think Mattis has demonstrated he's a nut job and Trump is well rid of him. He's not the first general
(Douglas MacArthur) to be sent packing by a US president.

Is this the whining 3rd grade response "Billy got to do it, why can't I?" My whole post is right there, I never mentioned him. Bill Clinton indeed! Why did he get away with it? I am pretty sure he didn't get away with it. Heck, he was impeached just like trump, except over sex with an intern, cheating on his wife and lying about. Doubt he is the reference you want to use. Used to, republicans took a dim view of that sort of thing, before trump and then became all non-judgemental all of a sudden. If Billy got away with it, it must have been because he was a better communicator and just plain lucky. Donnie couldn't get lucky in a 2 dollar whorehouse, and he should, cause it runs in the family, as his granddad ran whorehouses in 2 or 3 different states, catering to the miners back in the gold rush days.
You said "Every president whoever lived wants to give the public a good impression of himself." I DO NOT THING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS BUYING IT from the bragging P*ssy Grabber, who cheated on all three wive he has ever had, constantly bears false witness, and now using a damaged church and the Bible as a prop for a photo op during riots in America and then hiking back to the white house without a prayer or consoling statement. Surely you are aware the move has been denounced by religious leaders, conservatives, democrats, and key people in his own party. It was in all the papers.
My post are all on here. You can look them up from latest to oldest and shouldn't have to go back more than a few days. Not really caring what you believe and unwilling to do you homework for you. This isn't grade school.
Better luck on your next attack post.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Gen. Mattis tells us he swore an oath to support and defend our Constitution and defends the right of demonstrators to protest, lauding them as “people of conscience” who were fulfilling the values of the country.

Perhaps Mattis, in his old age, has forgotten the right he speaks of, a “constitutional right”, commands the people may “peacefully” assemble when petitioning their government, which of course excludes and forbids the throwing of life threatening projectiles, and is what was correctly responded to.

And as to Mattis asserting “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership”, it is quite obvious that Mattis is unwilling to acknowledge there can never be unity between our communist and socialist crowd, and red blooded American citizens who support and defend our Constitutionally limited ”Republican Form of Government”, and its intended free market, free enterprise system ___ a meritocracy in which every person under protection of the law, is intended to be free to succeed or fail at their own hand!

Indeed, Mattis prefers to attack President Trump for wanting to enforce the rule of law, and sides with an orchestrated protest [orchestrated and given life by our Fifth Column Media and their Yellow Journalists] ___ a protest that has been co-opted by domestic enemies and has evolved into a direct attack on the lives, liberty, property and dreams of millions of American Citizens.

You, Mr. Mattis, should be ashamed of yourself for condemning our President for having a spine and sternly warning our communist/socialist leaders in Democrat controlled States to end the looting and mayhem, lest he do it for them.

JWK

Our country is infested with a Fifth Column movement at MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, ETC., and their countless Yellow Journalists, who work hand in hand with the Democrat Party communist/socialist leadership

Mattis, has become a rambling, senile old coot. You are correct that he seems to have forgotten that portion of the Constitution that addresses protesting peacefully.

 

[Shelzin]

I support gay rights

So do I.

I support legalization of pot

Treat it just like smoking... i agree.

I support equal rights and civil rights

I agree. Although I still say that if someone tells me I have to call them a certain pronoun, then they'll find out mine is "Mastah". I still won't use theirs, but if that's the game they want to play, they'd be a hypocrite not to use mine.

I don't want a CHRISTIAN theocracy
I do not want ANY religion dictating law

I agree.

I am APPALLED at the terrible things trump has said and done (BIG FKN LIST)

Well.. Things he has said .. Yes. Things he has done? No. I like most of the things he's done.

I support citizens right to own weapons

I agree.

I support AFFORDABLE education and healthcare

I agree... However when the government gets involved it tends to make it more expensive, not more affordable.

I want a president that I can respect
I want a president that does NOT admire dictators

I agree.

I want a president that REVEALS his taxes

I didn't give shit when presidents before this one did it... I don't care after either.

I want a president that is NOT a puppet to putin

I agree.

I want a president who does not spend all day insulting people and calling them names
(in other words) I do not want a president who behave like a 12 year old bully

I agree.

That does NOT make me public enemy number 1


That makes me a REAL American

however....YOU are still human garbage

MMmmm.. I don't have a choice this election. Nobody worth voting for over Trump is running.

 

[Coyote]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

When he was Sec. of War, you barking moonbats were howling about how he was going to get us into WW VI, and you were probably right.

Now he's a "patriot".

Does your sanctimony know any bounds?

Does your lying know no bounds?

I always liked him. He (and Kelly) were among the sparse cabinet appointments I liked.

I was amazed Mattis hung on as long as he did.

The right LOVED Mattis.

Until they didn't.

Which coincided with his conflict with Trump.

 

[Coyote]

Mattis is a shithead. An embarassement to the Marine Corps

This is the kind of thing Trump was trying to prevent.

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You used to adore Mattis, now he's a "shithead"?

 

[Oddball]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

When he was Sec. of War, you barking moonbats were howling about how he was going to get us into WW VI, and you were probably right.

Now he's a "patriot".

Does your sanctimony know any bounds?

Does your lying know no bounds?

I always liked him. He (and Kelly) were among the sparse cabinet appointments I liked.

I was amazed Mattis hung on as long as he did.

The right LOVED Mattis.

Until they didn't.

Which coincided with his conflict with Trump.

Yeah, sure you did....I never liked him....Stunk to high heaven of neocon Bushbot spook shit....The two silly attacks on Syria on the flimsiest of supposed evidence confirmed my suspicions.

But you just keep it up with the pretense and the wind socking....It's not surprising to anyone anymore.

 

[Coyote]

General Mattis is a patriot.

Donald Trump is something else entirely.

I seem to remember a time when the left demonized Mattis. Now suddenly they have canonized him.

You’re just making stuff up. Mattis was seen as the adult in the room by both sides. We all knew it was a bad turn when he resigned.

Yup....Mattis was one of the few good picks...