Gaza's Children Face "Bombs Disguised as Toys"

[Hypatia415]

Who were the Palestinians who tried to prevent 10/7 or warn the Israelis an attack was imminent?

That is an unknown.

Who were the Palestinians who helped the hostages when they were dragged into Gaza?

That is also unknown. Some survived.

"Very Fine People" rhetoric doesn't work on me.

I have not employed that phrase

You cannot make the assumption that somewhere in Gaza, there were Palestinians who didn't participate in or support what happened on 10/7.

I very much doubt babies and toddlers were involved do you ?

We have tons and tons of video that proves the opposite as well as testimony from hostages as young as 11. Do you not believe them because they're Jews? Why do you not believe them when they say the entire population came out to lynch them? There's video of all of it and in 2 years, not one single Palestinian lifted a finger to help the hostages escape captivity. Even in Nazi Germany, there were Germans who put themselves at great risk to save Jews from the Nazis. No such people exist in Gaza because they are in a death cult.

Why are you assuming without any evidence from what I have written that I am in some way championing the horrors of October 2023?

But you did when you tried to say there were Palestinians who didn't support any of that. Hard to believe given the evidence I see with my own eyes.

Obviously many did not. Some are Christians.

 

[Concerned American]

Learn to read.

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

Again, did they restrict the southern border or Gaza ports? I don't hear you whining about Egypt? Why is that? Hmmm.

 

[late]

Why are you assuming without any evidence from what I have written that I am in some way championing the horrors of October 2023?

When your ideology is based on lies, some things are inevitable.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

Are you trying to say Israel is doing evil?

I am not blaming Jews. Furthermore plenty of Jews also criticise Israel for its policies towards the Palestinians. B'Tselem is a long established Israeli civil and human rights organisation that reports and comments on Israeli actions.

OK, and?

The old ploy that any such criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism is nonsense and is intended to intimidate and/or silence any who dare to challenge its policies towards the Palestinians.

What is the criticism of Israel that you are told is antisemitic?

 

[late]

Again, did they restrict the southern border or Gaza ports?

Yes.

If you ever leave your fantasy world, check the facts.

 

[Concerned American]

Yes.

If you ever leave your fantasy world, check the facts.

Israel has NO RESTRICTIONS on the southern border. That border is with EGYPT. Try again.

 

[late]

Israel has NO RESTRICTIONS on the southern border. That border is with EGYPT. Try again.

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

It's worse now.

 

[Concerned American]

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

It's worse now.

Egypt has a blockade to Gaza continuously. Why is that? Egypt is an Arab nation. They seem unwilling to have those Hamas terrorists in their country as well.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

It's worse now.

I wonder why?

 

[westwall]

Call it what you like. It works as most religions know.

I agree that no elections have been called since 2006 but that election was democratic. However, the last three years have somewhat hampered any attempt to have elections.

I do not recall reading about child soldiers. Do you have a link?

I am not condoning or championing Hamas but as I have pointed out, Israel helped create and sustain its own monster (Mary Shelley reference there)


Oh another suggestion for what Gaza might have become. westwall suggested Monaco. So why would Palestinians want to create "a Singapore in the Middle East"?

People need to eat and get about.

Perfume is an interesting import. Not being au fait with all Muslim festivals or funerary practises perchance it was also required for such events.

Oh geee. Why would anyone want to create a Monaco in the eastern Med. Money.

Imagine if EVERY Palestinian, not just their terrorist leaders, could live a carefree life, partying, mingling with the rich and famous because you ARE part of the rich and famous, with casino's and super cars, and all the other things being well off brings you.

But no, you think they would rather live in tents and carry on jihad.

Like I said, you are nothing but an Islamist scumbag.

 

[westwall]

Yes.

If you ever leave your fantasy world, check the facts.

You first, cup cake.

 

[westwall]

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

It's worse now.

Yeah...and? Take it up with Egypt.

 

[Concerned American]

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

It's worse now.

I think that's what my post said. Why are you not whining about Egypt? Oh, yeah, they aren't Israel. Your argument has a GIANT hole in it called the southern Gaza border with EGYPT---not Israel.

 

[Hypatia415]

Are you trying to say Israel is doing evil?

Was it too profound? Auden published the poem shortly after the outbreak of WW2.

OK, and?

Not all Jews support Israel's policies towards the Palestinians.

What is the criticism of Israel that you are told is antisemitic?

Theoretically any criticism of Israel, its policies, its government or its politicians is not in and of itself anti-Semitic but some, particularly on the Jewish Right, and their supporters, do not see it that way. And criticism of Israeli policies towards the Palestinians in particular will lead to accusations of antisemitism.

Look at Israeli reaction to countries that have acknowledged a Palestinian state. Remember Netanyahu's accusation against Australia and France? He accused the leaders of both countries of fuelling antisemitism.

 

[westwall]

Was it too profound? Auden published the poem shortly after the outbreak of WW2.


Not all Jews support Israel's policies towards the Palestinians.

Theoretically any criticism of Israel, its policies, its government or its politicians is not in and of itself anti-Semitic but some, particularly on the Jewish Right, and their supporters, do not see it that way. And criticism of Israeli policies towards the Palestinians in particular will lead to accusations of antisemitism.

Look at Israeli reaction to countries that have acknowledged a Palestinian state. Remember Netanyahu's accusation against Australia and France? He accused the leaders of both countries of fuelling antisemitism.

Why is it that no Arab state will allow Palestinians to enter their countries now?

 

[late]

I think that's what my post said. Why are you not whining about Egypt? Oh, yeah, they aren't Israel. Your argument has a GIANT hole in it called the southern Gaza border with EGYPT---not Israel.

Learn to read.

 

[westwall]

Learn to read.

That's not an answer.

 

[late]

That's not an answer.

Actually, it's the only one worth bothering with.

To avoid stating the obvious, I'm going to say you're ignoring the obvious.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

I agree that no elections have been called since 2006 but that election was democratic. However, the last three years have somewhat hampered any attempt to have elections.

What about the 17 years prior to 10/7? How come no elections were held then? And do you honestly believe that elections would have happened in Gaza at any point over the last three years if Palestinians didn't commit genocide on 10/7?

 

[Shusha]

I requested that you provide something from the Qur'an that equates with Genesis 15. You have yet to do so.

I see. So, its Door #3. Get back to me when you have a subject to discuss and can focus on the subject matter instead of personal attacks.

I don't debate the Israel/Arab conflict from a religious perspective. I argue from historical fact and international law.