Gaza's Children Face "Bombs Disguised as Toys"

[Shusha]

If you were an occupied people what would you do?

There is no occupation in Gaza. But even if there was, I would do what the Jewish people did and build a Tel Aviv.

 

[Shusha]

Israel restricted the import of nearly everything before the slaughter.

Link?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

I do not recall reading about child soldiers. Do you have a link?

Maybe you should be looking harder for facts instead of just seeking confirmation bias because this took me 2 seconds to find in a Google search.

https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/AHRC46NGO42_050321.pdf

 

[AnOrangeCat]

I am not condoning or championing Hamas but as I have pointed out, Israel helped create and sustain its own monster (Mary Shelley reference there)

Again, it was the choice of Palestinians to commit genocide on 10/7 and to commit every single terrorist act before then.

Regardless of what Israel may or may not have done, Palestinians made the choice to do what they did. They didn't have to.

And the degree to which you say Israel supported Hamas is what? To what degree?

Oh another suggestion for what Gaza might have become. westwall suggested Monaco. So why would Palestinians want to create "a Singapore in the Middle East"?

Or Monaco, or Abu Dhabi, or whatever. The point is that they could have created a viable nation-state with an economy not built around terrorism and jihad. They had 20 years to do that and what did they do instead? Dug tunnels, built rockets, and indoctrinated their children.

People need to eat and get about.

The only people preventing that from happening are Hamas. Every misfortune Palestinians face in Gaza is because of Hamas.

Perfume is an interesting import. Not being au fait with all Muslim festivals or funerary practises perchance it was also required for such events.

Right, but it's not an essential item like food or water or concrete or fuel, or any of the things people allege that Israel and Egypt prevented from being imported.

So it creates a much different perspective on the "occupation", wouldn't you say?

 

[Shusha]

Theoretically any criticism of Israel, its policies, its government or its politicians is not in and of itself anti-Semitic ... And criticism of Israeli policies towards the Palestinians in particular will lead to accusations of antisemitism.

If only we could find someone to debate us on the actual policies, government, and politicians of Israel instead of posting WWII poems alluding to the evil nature of Jews.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

That's a really good excuse, but that's all it is.

It was the #5 import after concrete, cars, sugar, and pre-packaged baked goods.

Doesn't sound like a society that is under any kind of occupation to me.

Israel restricted the import of nearly everything before the slaughter.

Clearly they didn't if Palestinians were importing concrete (used in tunnels), cars (used on 10/7 and for other terror attacks), raw sugar (but NOT grains or other essentials), and pre-packaged baked goods.

Doesn't sound like much of anything was restricted. Except for guns, of course, but they got those from Iran and sneaked them across the Egyptian border.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Call it what you like. It works as most religions know.

I agree that no elections have been called since 2006 but that election was democratic. However, the last three years have somewhat hampered any attempt to have elections.

I do not recall reading about child soldiers. Do you have a link?

I am not condoning or championing Hamas but as I have pointed out, Israel helped create and sustain its own monster (Mary Shelley reference there)


Oh another suggestion for what Gaza might have become. westwall suggested Monaco. So why would Palestinians want to create "a Singapore in the Middle East"?

People need to eat and get about.

Perfume is an interesting import. Not being au fait with all Muslim festivals or funerary practises perchance it was also required for such events.

AnOrangeCat is known for never providing any sources to back up what he is saying. Nobody knows if he is copy pasting all of his points or just making them up.

It’s a rather pathetic style of posting.

And also the IDF is widely viewed as a terrorist organization. Thus whatever hasbara or junior IDF source the orange cat gets his stuff from we should probably never believe?

Most Americans including a record number of young conservatives despise Israel. AnOrangeCat might be one of the few remaining boomers that support Israel. “Hamas” though… the orange cat is a “know it all” providing no sources to back up his views. People have presented source material for him that is coming from a wide range of views, what the troll says in response is “Hamas”

 

[AnOrangeCat]

They allowed in just enough food to comply with international law, no more.

Can you please name me any other time in history when the country that was attacked provided aid to the country that attacked them in the middle of a war that second country started?

Does Ukraine provide aid to Russia?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

hey restricted medicine, travel in or out, business would find needed supplies held up.

I mean, if you start a war with your neighbor is it really surprising that your neighbor would tighten up what they send to you, even though you started the war??

Again, name me one time in human history where that has happened. Just one time.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

So they were not far from malnourished, the supply of medicines was inadequate, etc.

"Not far".

So not malnourished.

Everything seems to have a qualifier with you, doesn't it?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

If you can think, you should be able to figure out why perfume is popular...

Popular, sure, but essential?

More essential than grain?

More essential than glass?

More essential than fuel?

More essential than pipes or steel or rebar?

When you accuse Israel of restricting imports, you're actually not being completely forthright because everything Palestinians are allowed to import is at the very least essential.

So what have Palestinians been prevented from importing? Doesn't seem like anything at all.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

"Yes. Before October 7, Israel and Egypt jointly maintained a strict blockade on the Gaza Strip, tightly controlling and heavily restricting the flow of goods.."
Wiki

Which goods? Not perfume. Not concrete. Not steel. Not glass. Not cars. Not sugar. Not grain. Not electronics. So what was "heavily restricted?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

If only we could find someone to debate us on the actual policies, government, and politicians of Israel instead of posting WWII poems alluding to the evil nature of Jews.

I always ask, what specific criticism are you making of Israel that is being called antisemitism?

They never answer that question. Because they cannot.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

AnOrangeCat is known for never providing any sources to back up what he is saying. Nobody knows if he is copy pasting all of his points or just making them up.

Again, what do you want me to back up? Let's start with one thing and go from there.

Or you can just continue to stall and delay so you don't have to respond in good faith to anything I post.

Because this is a cop-out, dude.

And when it comes to posting sources, I'll try not to laugh next time you quote a Philippine newspaper from 2024.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Nobody knows if he is copy pasting all of his points or just making them up.

That's what you're doing, my dude.

Put my stuff through AI to see if it's plagiarized. Go for it. I dare you.

You are the one who posts stuff that isn't sourced, is just a screenshot, and is from questionable sources. And then rather than defend them with your own words, you appeal to authority. Which is a pretty major fallacy.

 

[SaxonJackson]

"At what’s left of Al-Shifa Hospital, Dr Munir Al-Barsh — Director General of Gaza’s Ministry of Health — raised his voice after seeing the children arrive.

"Some had lost their arms.

"Others had lost their legs.

"Their faces were stripped of their childhood.

"Al-Barsh’s words were heavy with horror:



Israel has been caught disguising bombs as toys to kill Palestinian children

The IDF is evil personified.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

It’s a rather pathetic style of posting.

I disagree. I think it's pathetic to whine about how you have to read so many words in multiple posts.

The reason I break things up is because your thoughts are disorganized. So I have to address each point on its own because your mind just sloshes it all together and sprays it forth like a faucet, or like diarrhea. I don't like when points go unaddressed, so I'm doing YOU a service by responding to all of it because I don't think you have a grasp on any of it.

So instead of tackling my responses, you complain about them because you can't tackle them, because you are not as smart as you want people to think. And I think deep down, you know that about yourself too.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

And also the IDF is widely viewed as a terrorist organization.

By whom?

Thus whatever hasbara or junior IDF source the orange cat gets his stuff from we should probably never believe?

Right, anytime someone posts something you cannot argue in good faith you act like an impetuous child in the hopes it will turn people off from responding to you. But that only strengthens my resolve. You don't like having your garbage challenged because you cannot defend any of it without appealing to authority.

That's a weakness, not a virtue.

And also, it says a lot about how you value yourself if you accuse people of getting paid or trained to post things. The message you send is that what those people do has value to someone whereas what you do has value to no one.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

That is an unknown.

So then you are assuming that there are people who fit that.

Just like how Trump "assumed" there were people among the Nazi protesters in Charlottesville who were there because they "wanted to preserve history".

The Very Fine People rhetoric.

Without proof, you're just making assumptions. The proof I have is all the video, audio, images, and hostage testimony. I can see all that with my two eyes, but I can't see people who opposed it.

 

[Shusha]

I always ask, what specific criticism are you making of Israel that is being called antisemitism?

They never answer that question. Because they cannot.

No one is posting actual criticism of Israeli policy. (We haven't seen any of that since Coyote left.)

Look at this thread as evidence. OP article is a carefully and emotionally crafted piece of fiction. There are memes. One-liners. Abruptly cut-off interview snips of young models. References to WWII and Nazis. Oh, look, a poem. Legal terms stretched beyond meaning. Outright lies and fabrications. Accusations with no source or even a well-articulated reasoning.