French socialist Hamon is bringing universal income!

[there4eyeM]

La vie est belle.

 

[Dalia]

La vie est belle.

Oui, comme disait ma mère quand j'étais petite.

Que c'est beau la vie.

 

[esthermoon]

It appears that many French want Marie Le Pen as their President

Will Marine Le Pen Give France a Trump-Style Election Surprise? - NBC News

Yes, the polls are placing far right, anti-immigrant, anti-European Union Marine Le Pen with 25% at the top.
Next is conservative Francois Fillon with 22% and third is centrist Emmanuel Macron with 21%.
The socialist Benoît Hamon is trailing with 15%.
The first election will keep the two highest-scoring candidates and then there will be a run-off.
Marine Le Pen is not expected to win the run-off but who can tell?
Most French are wary that Le Pen will damage France's position in the European Union and the euro currency which she says France should replace with the French franc.

The Euro - Franc dilemma is the pivotal thing here in France. People will never dare think about changing their EU relations as long as their money is the Euro and not the Franc.

Bonjour, only Marine Lepen could ask for a Franxit and bring back the Franc you need to know that France lost a lot with the Euro a baguette cost three time is price when the Euro was apply and France did pay at least 21 Milliards d'Euro for helping Greece and Germany is making a lot of profit from the (Euro money) and we all know that François Hollande obey at Angéla Merkel like a little dog.

And the politician in France are real crooks.
Benoit Hamon don't seem to be one ( PS) but the Républican are Crooks.
Marine Lepen don't have the support and enough money to pass the élection.

Hi Dalia
Unfortunately everywhere politicians are crooks (or at least 90% of them)

Hello esthermoon
They are crook this story about madame Fillon make a lot of peoples talk because they keep on lying.

She Said :
Rédac chef du Canard Enchaîné: "Mme Fillon n'a cessé de répéter je ne m'occupe pas des affaires de mon mari'
En Anglais : She keep on repeating i don't take care of my husband business.
Good Grace a wife who do nothing but get pay 831 440 £ brut ???

#penelopegate - Rédac chef du Canard Enchaîné: "Mme Fillon n'a cessé de répéter je ne m'occupe pas des affaires de mon mari'

Hi Dalia!
The story of Mme Fillon is incredible!!

 

[there4eyeM]

Fillon was never too well loved, and now many are abandoning him. The great benefactor right now looks to be Macron. He is trying to commandeer the Socialist Party's ground workings. But, seeing how many people participated in the Party's primary, and the common view that Marcon is an arriviste (never elected and always part of an apparatchik élite), things could turn against him. That would put Hamon in a solid position to face the FN. His greatest weakness is lack of experience on the grand scale.

 

[montelatici]

 

[Bleipriester]

Benoît Hamon is a good man and we are counting on the French electorate to do the right thing and put him in office.

Not going to happen. Fillon and Le Pen will be the victors because US puppet pseudo socialist imperialism doesn´t work.

But it is election time and lets have fun watching the puppets performing artistical U-turns:


Francois Hollande admitted there are ‘too many immigrants’ in France and suggested Barack Obama was to blame for the rise of ISIS, claims new book

"French President Francois Hollande has suggested the rise of ISIS can be attributed to Barack Obama not backing his calls for Syrian air strikes back in 2013."
Francois Hollande suggests the rise of ISIS is Obama's fault | Daily Mail Online


Please note that Hollande intended to bomb the Syrian army and not ISIS. Of course, bombing ISIS´ strongest enemy would not have weakened ISIS, right?

So what do you want with such "socialists"?
France ‘ready to punish’ Syria over gas attack

 

[esthermoon]

I'm thinking the same of you Bleipriester!
I think many Europeans want a new Nationalism and hate globalism.

 

[Bleipriester]

I'm thinking the same of you Bleipriester!
I think many Europeans want a new Nationalism and hate globalism.

I think it is neither nationalism nor globalism what is concerning the people. You don´t need to be right-wing or political at all to strongly reject the current policies in the West.

 

[there4eyeM]

A form of world wide feeling of unity among the people themselves, directly, country to country and culture to culture would be good. Globalization merely for the (further) advantage of 'legal persons'; i.e., corporations, doesn't seem to be in our interests. The nation-state had probably served its purpose in human history and it is time to graduate.

 

[esthermoon]

A form of world wide feeling of unity among the people themselves, directly, country to country and culture to culture would be good. Glottalization merely for the (further) advantage of 'legal persons'; i.e., corporations, doesn't seem to be in our interests. The nation-state had probably served its purpose in human history and it is time to graduate.

Probably a "good globalization" based on peace and people rights would be a good thing. Unfortunately real globalization seems to be all banks, corporations and global finance
Regarding the nation-state many people in the world want to feel part of something bigger, their people and their nation!

 

[Decus]

Fillon was never too well loved, and now many are abandoning him. The great benefactor right now looks to be Macron. He is trying to commandeer the Socialist Party's ground workings. But, seeing how many people participated in the Party's primary, and the common view that Marcon is an arriviste (never elected and always part of an apparatchik élite), things could turn against him. That would put Hamon in a solid position to face the FN. His greatest weakness is lack of experience on the grand scale.

Hamon doesn't stand a chance. A socialist, who advocates legalizing marijuana, opening France to more immigration and providing everybody a minimum salary of 600 Euros (going later to 750 Euros) to everyone when a person turns 18. He provides no estimations as to what effect his many proposals will have on the French economy and this alone could be his undoing. He will probably do well with younger voters but it's very unlikely that he faces Le Pen in the second round.

Que contient le programme de Benoît Hamon pour la présidentielle ?

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[there4eyeM]

A form of world wide feeling of unity among the people themselves, directly, country to country and culture to culture would be good. Glottalization merely for the (further) advantage of 'legal persons'; i.e., corporations, doesn't seem to be in our interests. The nation-state had probably served its purpose in human history and it is time to graduate.

Probably a "good globalization" based on peace and people rights would be a good thing. Unfortunately real globalization seems to be all banks, corporations and global finance
Regarding the nation-state many people in the world want to feel part of something bigger, their people and their nation!

How about part of the human race; there's only one, and there's nothing more important?

 

[esthermoon]

A form of world wide feeling of unity among the people themselves, directly, country to country and culture to culture would be good. Glottalization merely for the (further) advantage of 'legal persons'; i.e., corporations, doesn't seem to be in our interests. The nation-state had probably served its purpose in human history and it is time to graduate.

Probably a "good globalization" based on peace and people rights would be a good thing. Unfortunately real globalization seems to be all banks, corporations and global finance
Regarding the nation-state many people in the world want to feel part of something bigger, their people and their nation!

How about part of the human race; there's only one, and there's nothing more important?

Some people feel like being part of the human race is not "enough" for them
They want to be part of Nation because the think their nationality and ethnicity is something different from all the others

 

[anotherlife]

Fillon was never too well loved, and now many are abandoning him. The great benefactor right now looks to be Macron. He is trying to commandeer the Socialist Party's ground workings. But, seeing how many people participated in the Party's primary, and the common view that Marcon is an arriviste (never elected and always part of an apparatchik élite), things could turn against him. That would put Hamon in a solid position to face the FN. His greatest weakness is lack of experience on the grand scale.

Hamon doesn't stand a chance. A socialist, who advocates legalizing marijuana, opening France to more immigration and providing everybody a minimum salary of 600 Euros (going later to 750 Euros) to everyone when a person turns 18. He provides no estimations as to what effect his many proposals will have on the French economy and this alone could be his undoing. He will probably do well with younger voters but it's very unlikely that he faces Le Pen in the second round.

Que contient le programme de Benoît Hamon pour la présidentielle ?

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French productivity is the highest in the world. That means French automation is what dominates, so it is the French job market that disappears the fastest. This way, it is logical that Hamon must propose this.

 

[there4eyeM]

True, Hamon is different from the others. He is offering new, interesting ideas and approaches. The safe bet is the "same ol' same ol'".

 

[Decus]

Fillon was never too well loved, and now many are abandoning him. The great benefactor right now looks to be Macron. He is trying to commandeer the Socialist Party's ground workings. But, seeing how many people participated in the Party's primary, and the common view that Marcon is an arriviste (never elected and always part of an apparatchik élite), things could turn against him. That would put Hamon in a solid position to face the FN. His greatest weakness is lack of experience on the grand scale.

Hamon doesn't stand a chance. A socialist, who advocates legalizing marijuana, opening France to more immigration and providing everybody a minimum salary of 600 Euros (going later to 750 Euros) to everyone when a person turns 18. He provides no estimations as to what effect his many proposals will have on the French economy and this alone could be his undoing. He will probably do well with younger voters but it's very unlikely that he faces Le Pen in the second round.

Que contient le programme de Benoît Hamon pour la présidentielle ?

.

French productivity is the highest in the world. That means French automation is what dominates, so it is the French job market that disappears the fastest. This way, it is logical that Hamon must propose this.

Propose he may, win he won't.

.

 

[there4eyeM]

A form of world wide feeling of unity among the people themselves, directly, country to country and culture to culture would be good. Glottalization merely for the (further) advantage of 'legal persons'; i.e., corporations, doesn't seem to be in our interests. The nation-state had probably served its purpose in human history and it is time to graduate.

Probably a "good globalization" based on peace and people rights would be a good thing. Unfortunately real globalization seems to be all banks, corporations and global finance
Regarding the nation-state many people in the world want to feel part of something bigger, their people and their nation!

How about part of the human race; there's only one, and there's nothing more important?

Some people feel like being part of the human race is not "enough" for them
They want to be part of Nation because the think their nationality and ethnicity is something different from all the others

Unfortunately, in history that road has led to disharmony, intolerance and conflict.

 

[anotherlife]

I'm thinking the same of you Bleipriester!
I think many Europeans want a new Nationalism and hate globalism.

This is interesting. Must say though that nationalism itself is a result of globalization and is controlled by globalists. Europeans, as usual, chase their own tails. They love hating globalism, hehe.

 

[Decus]

True, Hamon is different from the others. He is offering new, interesting ideas and approaches. The safe bet is the "same ol' same ol'".

Would you care to project the impact of Hamon's proposals on the French economy? Sadly Hamon can't.

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[PoliticalChic]

Fillon was never too well loved, and now many are abandoning him. The great benefactor right now looks to be Macron. He is trying to commandeer the Socialist Party's ground workings. But, seeing how many people participated in the Party's primary, and the common view that Marcon is an arriviste (never elected and always part of an apparatchik élite), things could turn against him. That would put Hamon in a solid position to face the FN. His greatest weakness is lack of experience on the grand scale.

Hamon doesn't stand a chance. A socialist, who advocates legalizing marijuana, opening France to more immigration and providing everybody a minimum salary of 600 Euros (going later to 750 Euros) to everyone when a person turns 18. He provides no estimations as to what effect his many proposals will have on the French economy and this alone could be his undoing. He will probably do well with younger voters but it's very unlikely that he faces Le Pen in the second round.

Que contient le programme de Benoît Hamon pour la présidentielle ?

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Universal income, its emblematic measure
This is the main idea of Benoît Hamon put in place a universal basic income . The candidate has definitely managed to make one of the main topics of debate in the primary, forcing his opponents to position on the issue. And critics of the latter, on the form and substance, are clearly not enough to discredit the candidate, even if he has repeatedly changed the terms of its proposal in the final days before the vote.

En savoir plus sur Que contient le programme de Benoît Hamon pour la présidentielle ?

May I remind that the experiment has been tried...and it was a failure.

1. The government conducted a study, 1971-1978 known as the Seattle-Denver Income Maintenance Experiment, or SIME-DIME, in which low income families were give a guaranteed income, a welfare package with everything liberal policy makers could hope for. Result: for every dollar of extra welfare given, low income recipients reduced their labor by 80 cents. http://www.policyarchive.org/handle/10207/bitstreams/12794.pdf

2. [The results for husbands show that the combination of negative income tax plans tested in SIME/DIME — which, as already mentioned, represents on average a relatively generous cash transfer program with a guarantee of 115% of the poverty line and a tax rate of 50% — has a significant negative effect on hours worked per year. Overview of the Final Report of the Seattle-Denver Income Maintenance Experiment]

a. Further results: dissolution of families: “This conclusion was unambiguously unfavorable to advocates of a negative income tax that would cover married couples, for two important reasons. First, increased
marital breakups among the poor would increase the numbers on
welfare and the amount of transfer payments, principally because the
separated wife and children would receive higher transfer payments.
Second, marital dissolutions and the usual accompanying absence of
fathers from households with children are generally considered unfavorable outcomes regardless of whether or not the welfare rolls increase.” http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/conf/conf30/conf30c.pdf

b. “When families received guaranteed income at 90% of the poverty level, there was a 43% increase in black family dissolution and a 63% increase in white family dissolution. At 125% of the poverty levels, dissolutions were 75% and 40%.”
Robert B. Carleson, “Government Is The Problem,” p. 57.