Free AR for Everyone?

[Norman]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

 

[justinacolmena]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

 

[Hossfly]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

Switzerland has gun laws that allow Swiss militia members to keep their military weapons.

Summary:

Switzerland has a comprehensive gun-control regime that is governed by federal law and implemented by the cantons. This regime may be somewhat less restrictive than that of other European countries, yet since 2008 it has complied with European Union requirements. The Swiss Weapons Act requires an acquisition license for handguns and a carrying license for the carrying of any permitted firearm for defensive purposes. Exceptions exist for hunters. Automatic weapons are banned.

Swiss militiamen may keep their issued personal weapon in their home. A popular referendum to prohibit this practice was rejected in February 2011.

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[night_son]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

The infamous "black" rifle is foremost not a "combat" rifle. Rather, it is the modern replacement equivalent of the family rifle, as useful for general utility and hunting as it is for home defense.

 

[Norman]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

Switzerland has gun laws that allow Swiss militia members to keep their military weapons.

Summary:

Switzerland has a comprehensive gun-control regime that is governed by federal law and implemented by the cantons. This regime may be somewhat less restrictive than that of other European countries, yet since 2008 it has complied with European Union requirements. The Swiss Weapons Act requires an acquisition license for handguns and a carrying license for the carrying of any permitted firearm for defensive purposes. Exceptions exist for hunters. Automatic weapons are banned.

Swiss militiamen may keep their issued personal weapon in their home. A popular referendum to prohibit this practice was rejected in February 2011.

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Military service is compulsory in Switzerland.

Maybe we should do that as well. Free military training to all! And just like education - the basic training should be compulsory. Let's start with three years like Israel, training includes getting familiar with hard right ideas,

 

[KissMy]

The problem is if you shoot a criminal it will cost you $100k in legal fees.

 

[Norman]

The problem is if you shoot a criminal it will cost you $100k in legal fees.

That's no problem, we will offer free judicial service upon shooting criminals.

Thanks for the idea, I will have to make a new thread to discuss this in more fruitful detail.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

‘Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?’

Wrong.

The Second Amendment prohibits government from enacting un-Constitutional firearm regulatory measures; it doesn’t ‘guarantee’ anything to anyone.

“Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable.”

The consequence of rightwing ignorance, stupidity, and panic buying – guns will become affordable again when conservatives stop lying about government ‘confiscating’ guns.

“There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.”

This fails as a false comparison fallacy.

“Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.”

Wrong.

Private citizens with semi-automatic small arms would play no role in US defensive capabilities; ‘a rifle behind every blade of grass’ is a myth.

The thread premise is devoid of common sense – it’s idiotic, ridiculous rightwing sophistry.

And there are far better platforms than the AR.

 

[Pogo]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

FUCK no.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

Wrong, the Swiss will first have to serve their 2 years in the Military including Reserve. They get to take it home AFTER they get their request approved. Most don't bother.

Now, the Swiss doesn't allow those authorized weapons to be out in the streets unless they are called upon for service and then it's a Military Action including full Military Uniforms. Otherwise, that firearm is kept under lock and key. Without military service, a regular citizen is banned from owning a firearm without doing some pretty long paperwork.

 

[JGalt]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

The infamous "black" rifle is foremost not a "combat" rifle. Rather, it is the modern replacement equivalent of the family rifle, as useful for general utility and hunting as it is for home defense.

It's a varmint rifle. .223, 5.56mm, .222 Remington, 22-250... all designed to hunt woodchucks at long ranges.

.30 caliber or go home.

 

[MisterBeale]

. . . everyone should be issued a suitcase nuke in case of voter fraud. What could go wrong?

 

[JWBooth]

I should’ve bought that Saiga in .308 Winchester when I had the chance.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's military conscription. They issue the guns in the course of basic training, and then they take them back. U.S. military boots, military uniforms, military jackets, even military ammo, all widely available as U.S. military surplus -- but no, the Democrats will not allow combat rifles of the sort issued to private first class rank infantry to fall into the hands of private individuals or citizens outside the military.

AR15's aren't military weapons they aren't issued by the military but can be used effectively

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

Wrong, the Swiss will first have to serve their 2 years in the Military including Reserve. They get to take it home AFTER they get their request approved. Most don't bother.

Now, the Swiss doesn't allow those authorized weapons to be out in the streets unless they are called upon for service and then it's a Military Action including full Military Uniforms. Otherwise, that firearm is kept under lock and key. Without military service, a regular citizen is banned from owning a firearm without doing some pretty long paperwork.

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[CrusaderFrank]

Mandatory civics and gun safety classes starting in grade school

 

[Dogbiscuit]

Great plan.

1. Unlike "health care" or "education" the constitution states that right to arms should be guaranteed to all. What better way to guarantee that than have a free AR for everyone?

2. Everyone has a right to self defense and that can best be guaranteed by providing them an AR. Thousands die every year from not having their self defense needs met.

3. Gun prices have been steadily increasing and have become unaffordable. We need to make them affordable, the best way to proceed is a "single payer" option - whereby the government purchases everyone a firearm.

4. There are other nations where this is already done - in Switzerland everyone has an AR in the closet. The homicide rate in Switzerland is much lower than that of America, if you don't support the proposal, you are a murderer.

5. Myriads of other benefits. Lower administrative costs, improvement of US defensive capability, higher quality and better coverage (we of course let an American choose the firearm according to his needs). The list goes on and on. It is simply common sense.

Folks, no one should go without the means to defend themselves!

Sounds like a great plan, until another freak like Obama gets in and causes ammo to skyrocket, and we end up where a single bullet cost $5.00 Those freaks always find a way to infringe.
So the plan must include free ammo, hearing protection, firearm training implemented in schools at a young age, localized shooting ranges to practice, and much much more.

Other than that, great plan, sign me up !

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

 

[Desperado]

AR 15s actually make for a poor SD weapon.

Handguns and shotguns are much more preferable.

You do know you are preaching to a cult, don't you. We broke that cult in Colorado but other states haven't even tried and the CultAR15 continues.

but AR are so much fun to shoot, the Mustang of the rifle world and the
Steyr AUG is the Ferrari