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Washington Post reporter and Secret Service expert Carol Leonnig told MSNBC on Tuesday night that Trump physically could have reached for Engel and the steering wheel of the Secret Service SUV he was riding in on Jan. 6 — not the presidential limo, or Beast — and that Engel and especially Ornato "were very, very close to President Trump, and some people accused them of at times being enablers and yes men of the president."

Would it be unusual for a Trump loyalist like Ornato to lie to protect Trump, someone he is devoted to, now that what he said has come out? No.

Of note, until the attempted coup Hutchinson was also a Trump loyalist.
 

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No such thing has happened. You're gaslighting.
I don't think you know what the term "gaslighting" means.....at least two of her narratives were quickly debunked....including from the Secret Service about her fairy tale about Trump jumping to the front of his limo, attacking a Agent and grabbing the wheel of the limo.

I mean, the reality is the story is unbelievable to begin with, but the "Committee" knows it's dembot base will believe anything.....
 

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Defrauding students at his real estate school. Stealing money for personal use from his charitable foundation.
We lived good. Covid, the city insurrections, and the election steal was used to bring the swamp and the globalists back to power. Progs represent part of the evil. the demonic and hell.
 

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As well as the offer of the secret service agents in question to testify that she is full of shit.
Trump and Engel have also both corroborated the thrust of Hutchinson's testimony.

Trump told The Washington Post in April that he had wanted to accompany his supporters to the Capitol on Jan. 6, but the "Secret Service said I couldn't go. I would have gone there in a minute." Engel testified to the Jan. 6 committee that he and Trump had disagreed about going to the Capitol and he had steered them to the White House instead, Politico reported earlier this month.
 

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Washington Post reporter and Secret Service expert Carol Leonnig told MSNBC on Tuesday night that Trump physically could have reached for Engel and the steering wheel of the Secret Service SUV he was riding in on Jan. 6 — not the presidential limo, or Beast — and that Engel and especially Ornato "were very, very close to President Trump, and some people accused them of at times being enablers and yes men of the president."

Would it be unusual for a Trump loyalist like Ornato to lie to protect Trump, someone he is devoted to, now that what he said has come out? No.

Of note, until the attempted coup Hutchinson was also a Trump loyalist.
hahah yeah that's it...clearly the Agent is just a big liar.....hahahahh

ya'll just love doubling down on stupid
 
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Why? I'm honestly curious.

It's obvious Trumpsters love trolling, but what does it achieve? What's the goal?
I think you believe that you just answered your question.

Thanks for trying to participate in a meaningful way.
 
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hahah yeah that's it...clearly the Agent is just a big liar.....hahahahh

ya'll just love doubling down on stupid
Look, I get it. You think if you can punch a hole in her testimony on this relatively insignificant point then everything she said becomes questionable. It's why right wing media is pounding away on this point. Character assassination being page one in the Trump attack playbook. I have no doubt it's working among Trump cultists.
The thing is, it's a minor detail in the larger picture and changes nothing about Trump's criminal behavior.
 
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Look, I get it. You think if you can punch a hole in her testimony on this relatively insignificant point then everything she said becomes questionable. It's why right wing media is pounding away on this point. Character assassination being page one in the Trump attack playbook. I have no doubt it's working among Trump cultists.
The thing is, it's a minor detail in the larger picture and changes nothing about Trump's criminal behavior.

Lying during testimony negates everything else she says.

Are you really too stupid to understand this?
 

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After hearing yesterday's testimony, how does one even begin to process all of what was said? It was teased as being a potential bombshell. It was closer to carpet bombing.

There were some things we knew about that Hutchinson provided more detail and color for. Like the timing of his tweet accusing Pence of not having the courage to help with the coup coming minutes after Trump was told the mob was chanting "hang Mike Pence." It was a mind boggling disregard for Pence's safety.

There were some things we didn't know, like this.

Trump knew there were weapons in the crowd, wanted to get rid of metal detectors before siccing crowd on Congress

Trump not only knew about weapons in the crowd on Jan. 6, but actually seemed to embrace that fact, Hutchinson testified. She focused on Trump’s rage upon learning that the immediate crowd area around the stage at the White House Ellipse — the part that was surrounded by metal detectors — was not full because people in the crowd had weapons and could not go through the magnetometers with them.

Backstage at the rally, Hutchinson said she overheard Trump say something to the effect of, “I don’t effing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the effing mags away. Let my people in, they can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in, take the effing mags away.”


I thought I had become immune to being shocked by the Orange Menace. That still shocked me. I was reminded of all the times he boasted about the size of his rally crowds. And of course who can forget Don forcing Sean Spicer to go to the WH podium and lie about the size of the inaugural crowd? Clearly, this was much worse. It would be enough to keep Faux having an apoplectic fit for years. All the other far right wing outlets would similarly be in meltdown mode. The story would infinitely reverberate around the right wing sound chamber. With Trump, it's just one of many outrages. Too many to count. Too many to elicit the appropriate amount of indignity or attention. He has once again flooded the zone with atrocity just as he did for his entire presidency.
How to process it? Down the toilet where crap belongs.
 

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Look, I get it. You think if you can punch a hole in her testimony on this relatively insignificant point then everything she said becomes questionable. It's why right wing media is pounding away on this point. Character assassination being page one in the Trump attack playbook. I have no doubt it's working among Trump cultists.
The thing is, it's a minor detail in the larger picture and changes nothing about Trump's criminal behavior.
I didn't punch anything....the freaking agent she claimed was the victim of this assault did.....sorry
 

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Refute what she said or STFU.

Have already done it multiple times. She lied, you're too dumb to realize it.

This is from the people who were actually there, not someone who got thirdhand hearsay:


 

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After hearing yesterday's testimony, how does one even begin to process all of what was said? It was teased as being a potential bombshell. It was closer to carpet bombing.

There were some things we knew about that Hutchinson provided more detail and color for. Like the timing of his tweet accusing Pence of not having the courage to help with the coup coming minutes after Trump was told the mob was chanting "hang Mike Pence." It was a mind boggling disregard for Pence's safety.

There were some things we didn't know, like this.

Trump knew there were weapons in the crowd, wanted to get rid of metal detectors before siccing crowd on Congress

Trump not only knew about weapons in the crowd on Jan. 6, but actually seemed to embrace that fact, Hutchinson testified. She focused on Trump’s rage upon learning that the immediate crowd area around the stage at the White House Ellipse — the part that was surrounded by metal detectors — was not full because people in the crowd had weapons and could not go through the magnetometers with them.

Backstage at the rally, Hutchinson said she overheard Trump say something to the effect of, “I don’t effing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the effing mags away. Let my people in, they can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in, take the effing mags away.”


I thought I had become immune to being shocked by the Orange Menace. That still shocked me. I was reminded of all the times he boasted about the size of his rally crowds. And of course who can forget Don forcing Sean Spicer to go to the WH podium and lie about the size of the inaugural crowd? Clearly, this was much worse. It would be enough to keep Faux having an apoplectic fit for years. All the other far right wing outlets would similarly be in meltdown mode. The story would infinitely reverberate around the right wing sound chamber. With Trump, it's just one of many outrages. Too many to count. Too many to elicit the appropriate amount of indignity or attention. He has once again flooded the zone with atrocity just as he did for his entire presidency.
You mean a cornered and rehearsed witness forced to give a cheesy fake testimony “production”, with no opposing side questioning, and which the secret service immediately shot it down by claiming the things she said never happened?
 

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Most of the testimony she gave was coming from her first hand knowledge, having witnessed what happened and or what was said.
Yeah sure. Sadly the obvious fictions completely decimate any credibility she may ever have had.
 

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