Former FBI agent: Messages sent to Hutchinson are witness tampering

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Ex-FBI official: Messages sent to Cassidy Hutchinson were an 'attempt to intimidate a witness'

Former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence Frank Figliuzzi says the messages shared by Vice-Chair Liz Cheney during Tuesday’s bombshell hearing of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack are “witness tampering.”“There is no question in my mind that what you just read is an...

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It appears the messages come from associates of Meadows. Executive Privilege does not apply when a crime is being committed.

And there have been other confirmed accounts of Trump operatives engaging in witness intimidation.

Such is the Trump crime organization.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Cant testify to something you never witnessed. Thats lying under oath not telling the truth do you Dimmers not know the difference?

Wrong.

‘Hearsay’ isn’t applicable in Congressional hearings.

 

[Faun]

The point is she had nothing--repeat NOTHING--to say other than what she had been told.

Well that's bullshit. She said she was back stage with Trump and overheard him being informed there were people there with weapons. That's not hearsay.

She said she overheard Trump ask them to remove the mags so more people could get up to the stage where he was about to speak. That's not hearsay.

She was in a meeting with Tony Ornato and Mark Meadows and said she heard Ornato inform Meadows there were people there with guns. That's not hearsay.

In that same meeting she said she heard Meadows ask Ornato if he had informed Trump there were guns there and heard Ornato answer, "yes." That too is not hearsay.

What a shame you're so scared about her testimony that you feel the need to lie about it.

 

[Faun]

Sorry but she wasn't there. She could not have heard him say it.

She said she was backstage with him when she heard him say that. Who do you think you can fool with your pathetic lies?

 

[surada]

Cant testify to something you never witnessed. Thats lying under oath not telling the truth do you Dimmers not know the difference?

She testified what she was told by the agents who were there. You don't have a law degree.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You are dealing with the Trumplican Short Bus crew. They still can’t grasp the concept that this is not a trial, it is a Congressional hearing

Or they know it’s not a trial and it’s yet another example of the dishonest right lying about ‘hearsay’ in a pathetic attempt to defend Trump’s complicity in treason and terrorism.

 

[Faun]

The point is she said nothing other than hearsay.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What are you, 12? Yes, I want the people running the investigation to do their jobs, that includes calling witnesses for the defense.

Wrong.

More ignorance from the right – willful or otherwise.

There is no ‘defense’ – there is no ‘prosecution.’

No one is ‘on trial.’

 

[Faun]

The story went all around the FBI. trump planned the rally where he incited the mob. He knew they were armed with weapons. HE DID NOT CARE. He knew they chanted hang Mike Pence. HE DID NOT CARE. He even tweeted later to encourage the mob.

trump is a GIANT PIECE OF SMELLY FECES.

Even said Pence deserved that mob's ire. The insane part of that is the only reason they were pissed at Pence was because Trump lied to them and convinced them that Pence could still make him president for 4 more years. And they were dumb enough to believe him. Fucking rightards.

 

[Foxfyre]

Is is still uncertain that a former president, even a rotten ex-president, will be indicted. But at least three of his criminal associates will be indicted. I am looking for Rudy, Clark, and Eastman to be indicted. They may roll over on trump. We will wait and see.

Honestly, if a losing Dem had pulled the crap that trump pulled, the repub party would be asking for him to be crucified.

Nobody has been indicted or convicted for a crime associated with DJT. They go after these guys in their effort to hurt DJT which explains the pardons. He is unwilling for his friends and associates to suffer financially for no other reason than they are his friends and associates. If he was out of the picture they wouldn't likely be investigated or indicted at all.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The trumplet idea of manliness has always been something to laugh at.

Unfortunately, the trumplet idea of ‘manliness’ is often harmful to women.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Faun]

What are you, 12? Yes, I want the people running the investigation to do their jobs, that includes calling witnesses for the defense.

What defense? Who's on defense?

 

[Foxfyre]

Well that's bullshit. She said she was back stage with Trump and overheard him being informed there were people there with weapons. That's not hearsay.

She said she overheard Trump ask them to remove the mags so more people could get up to the stage where he was about to speak. That's not hearsay.

She was in a meeting with Tony Ornato and Mark Meadows and said she heard Ornato inform Meadows there were people there with guns. That's not hearsay.

In that same meeting she said she heard Meadows ask Ornato if he had informed Trump there were guns there and heard Ornato answer, "yes." That too is not hearsay.

What a shame you're so scared about her testimony that you feel the need to lie about it.

What a shame that the people she quoted aren't asked if they said it.

Ornato and Engel have both given closed door testimony. The committee hasn’t produced any testimony from first-hand witnesses to corroborate her account. Why would that be? Because they did not corroborate her account?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Nobody has been indicted or convicted for a crime associated with DJT. They go after these guys in their effort to hurt DJT which explains the pardons. He is unwilling for his friends and associates to suffer financially for no other reason than they are his friends and associates. If he was out of the picture they wouldn't likely be investigated or indicted at all.

Trump sought to lead a mob of armed rightwing terrorists to the Capitol in an effort to prevent the lawful, Constitutional certification of Joe Biden’s election victory and through an act of armed violence install Trump as an autocratic dictator contrary to the Constitution, the rule of law, and the will of the people.

A sitting Republican president sought to do this.

This is what you and others on the right are trying to defend.

 

[Faun]

What a shame that the people she quoted aren't asked if they said it.

Ornato and Engel have both given closed door testimony. The committee hasn’t produced any testimony from first-hand witnesses to corroborate her account. Why would that be? Because they did not corroborate her account?

The events I listed were hers, first hand. In one, she was in a meeting and testified as to what was said. In another she was backstage with Trump and testified as to what she heard. That is not hearsay. It's first hand evidence.

 

[Coyote]

What are you, 12? Yes, I want the people running the investigation to do their jobs, that includes calling witnesses for the defense.

It isn’t a trial.

 

[Faun]

WTF?? Pressuring his VP to unilaterally reject legit Biden ele tors so he could win the election isn't trying to steal the election to you?

That's the company line assigned to the left I know. He did not do that, but oh well. You are required to say it I suppose.

<crickets>

 

[Foxfyre]

The events I listed were hers, first hand. In one, she was in a meeting and testified as to what was said. In another she was backstage with Trump and testified as to what she heard. That is not hearsay. It's first hand evidence.

No. What she claims she heard first hand is not hearsay. But neither is it believable without corroboration. I was in error when I said all of her testimony is hearsay. But so far, none of it is really believable, especially since some parties have said some of it never happened. Nobody was there to challenge any of it or expand on it or ask for clarification. And when a person is caught in a fabrication, it calls all their testimony into question.

 

[Coyote]

Here is the transcript of her testimony….isn’t all hearsay:

Here's every word from the sixth Jan. 6 committee hearing on its investigation

Read the full transcript from the June 28 House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack hearing.

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