? For liberals: If taxes go up on rich, how will you feel about consequences?

[drsmith1072]

They share the blame, but Obama made some campaign promises that he can't keep. A tax increase is still a tax increase regardless of whether it's a pre-scheduled increase or not.

LOL so the taxcuts are due to expire because the right CHOSE to make them temporary and you still wish to blame the dems?? LOL now that is hilarious. BTW, What promises are you refering to??

Big choice, temporary or not at all. You are really credible.

BTW still waiting on some proof from you. You have it don't you? after all the poster that tries to lecture others on the "truth" wouldn't make a claim that he can't substantiate now would he??

In case you missed it, repeating the same unsubstantiated BS propaganda over and over again doesn't make it true.

 

[drsmith1072]

They did not make the tax cuts permanent to because they didn't have the power to. Your argument is a twist on Catch-22.

Really?? Did they try to make them permanent?? Can you show where dems BLOCKED them from doing so?? Furthermore, is that the same reason that they didn't TRY to make them permanent the first time around too??

The right had the white house and both houses of congress and in the senate as they used fear to manipulate the masses. They only needed two democratic votes to pass anything and they got bill nelson and zell miller, who later spoke at the republican national convention. Furthermore, unlike the right who does vote as a block and tries to out anyone who differs from the whole as RiNOs, the left leaves room for dissenting opinions. At that time the right could get pretty much everything that they wanted to and usually did.
However, thanks for your spin.

That is hardly what any honest person would call a catch-22 but then we are talking about you. LOL

What kind of medications are you on. Talking with you is like a Twilight Zone episode.

So in other words you have NO proof and are taking the low road as you try desperately to attack and smear the messenger becuase you can't substantiate your own claims? LOL

Where is your proof?? You made the claim so prove it. Put up or shut up. LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

It is all in how the question is asked. The day We as a whole stop respecting private property, We are all lost, we become the Property of the State. Greed is a Sin, so is Envy. When Justice loses it's impartiality, it also loses it's identity.

So in other words ALL polls are invalid. So how do we define the will of the people since "It is all in how the question is asked."? LOL

It's funny how the right clings to polls when they agree witht heir point of view but makes lames excuses on why they shouldn't be trusted when the polls disagree with their point of view. LOL

Anyone else remember all of that "will of the people" bs the right was spewing when the healthcare bill was passed?? LOL

Earth to Smith..... Earth to Smith..... Show me where I even Post Poll results. ...... As Hell freezes over.

Polls are manipulative, not all, but many. They are generally tailored to the needs and wants of those that pay for them. Some want truth, some want power or control. Your perspective is pretty good for that of a 9 year old.

Just ignore the damage your Health Care Bill is doing. Remember to blame us. That has always worked in the past. I know how offensive the will of the people is to your breed. That is your problem, not mine. It is the foundation of the Republic, as hard that is for you to digest. We The People pity Smith.

Earth to the intense, I was merely making a point of how the right spoke of the will of the people a few months back so it's funny how all of the righties here are critical of the polls that were presented. If you took personal offence to that it's not really my problem since attacking others personally is all that you seem to have to offer.

BTW what are you talking about with the healthcare bill?? Oh and just so you know the RIGHT has the history of blaming others for their legislation, look at how they rush to blame the dems for the taxcuts expiring, when the right set them up to do so.

And another thing why do you bring up "the will of the people" when you discredit polls and the discussion is about how the right used the polls to define "the will of the people"?? I asked this previously and you avoided it but how can you define the "will of the people" when you don't trust or use polls??
You seem to be on both side of this issue you hypocrite. Not that hypocrisy is a new thing for you but for you to be so blatant about it is just shocking. LOL

p.s. Why do think that YOU speak for "we the people"?? In case you missed I am one of the "we the people" too. LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

yep the obstructionist Dems in congress at the time would not have allowed them to be permanent.

Really?? Prove it?? What legisaltion to make the taxcuts permanent did the left block?? Show us the proof of the filibuster.

To what end. What do fact's matter to you. Do I sit here changing Smith's diapers? Do I prepare for the day, so that I can earn my way????? Tough choice..... Was I put here to give Smith a free education that he will just exploit and misconstrue? Maybe, You should work on your own foundation, start over, there is too much rot, in what you have already laid. Next thing Smith will be claiming that Democrats lower taxes and Conservatives represent Big Government.

WOW all of that could have been summed up by simply stating the following:

"I, intense, can't back up my claim." If you had said that then you wouldn't have had to have gone through so much trouble making lame excuses as you tried so desperately to tear me down based on teh fact that you know that you can't prove your claims and lack the honesty to admit it.

BTW, "I seriously doubt that you even have the competence to decide anything for others, in fact, you even going out in public, probably puts others at risk."

LOL Way to stick your foot in your mouth. LOL

 

[Synthaholic]

If that be the case? Then they Favour becoming a people less in economic liberty, and more as slaves to Government.

Whom are the rich but hose that invest to create jobs? Government doesn't create anything but slavery unto it's people, and those suclking at the teat of Government at the expense of others due to their laziness or ineptness to handle real life.

Those in that poll I'm sure are either stupid, or Statist Democrats...but in this case? They're one in the same because they cut not only their own throats but that of their neighbors as well....and thus the teats become less available.

Where did the rich find all that money to invest in the nineties, btw, when the Clinton tax rates were in effect?

Ever heard of work or sweat equity? RISK?

Screw the nineties. Clinton's Blew up because the dot com bubble BURST. You know it as well as anyone and is repeated here ad nauseum.

Nice try at reality. You fail...again.

Which was another failure of corporate capitalism.

 

[Synthaholic]

Hint? What is 'War On Poverty'...We are still waging that "WAR"

Why haven't we pulled funding for that "WAR" it's evident we are failing since poverty has gone up under Obama's Regime...and the Statist Democrats in power across the proverbial board.

FAIL again Carbonated.

Okay, so you don't want to pay for the wars.

Who do you want to pay for the wars? Your kids? Your grandkids? Nobody, ever?

Whom do you wish to pay for the massive deficits run up by the Statist Democrats under Obama...?

Who do you want to pay for the wars? Your kids? Your grandkids? Nobody, ever

? The New Slavery the Statists are putting us in?

FAIL Again Carbonated.

You're a good little puppet!

 

[Synthaholic]

Eat the rich, just add salt...oops Obama's wife is making that illegal...ok, just add Salsa!!!

It's always nice when the phenomenally idiotic join a thread.

Mrs. Obama cannot make anything illegal, dope.

 

[KMAN]

If the Bush tax cuts worked so well, why are we just coming out of a 2 year recession?

Dumb quote of the year nominee.... Obviously you have not been paying attention the past 4 years and seen all of the money we have been spending.... You may want to check that out...

 

[drsmith1072]

If the Bush tax cuts worked so well, why are we just coming out of a 2 year recession?

Dumb quote of the year nominee.... Obviously you have not been paying attention the past 4 years and seen all of the money we have been spending.... You may want to check that out...

Thanks for the heads up and telling us that you were naming yourself as a nominee for dumb quote of the year.
The fact is that the bottom fell out BEFORE all of that "money" was spent and while the taxcuts were in effect. So do you have anymore spin or is that about all you have to offer??

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Bush tax cuts worked so well, why are we just coming out of a 2 year recession?

Dumb quote of the year nominee.... Obviously you have not been paying attention the past 4 years and seen all of the money we have been spending.... You may want to check that out...

Why would spending money cause a recession? That's mental.

 

[ClosedCaption]

ya know...No matter the argument. I cant bring myself to feel bad for the top 2% when they have almost 80 something percent of the money in America. I care more about me and the people like me...the middle class

It's like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders

 

[daveman]

Maybe you should look up the definition of 'profit'.

Definition of PROFIT

1
: a valuable return : gain
2
: the excess of returns over expenditure in a transaction or series of transactions; especially : the excess of the selling price of goods over their cost
3
: net income usually for a given period of time​

I really gotta get me one of those leftist dictionaries. Apparently, it's just a ______________ after every word, so you can make up your own meaning.

You do know that non-profits make money, don't you?

Dumbass.

"...don't claim that making money isn't profit."

Dumbass.

 

[daveman]

Maybe the more adventuress Liberals could try working for a while without punching in. See how long it takes to sink in. I had a friend way back, we worked together, at a popular place in Santa Cruz, Ca., anyway, he liked to bury his pay checks like a squirrel and just let them rot. Drove the book keeper crazy, the boss loved him for it.

See daveman about that. He's the expert.


Oh, wait...I read that wrong. I thought you said 'punch in without working'.

12 broken aircraft worth a half-billion dollars safely stopped by aircraft arresting gear I maintained and certified, manned by 18 priceless aircrew. Now I manage a fleet of equipment worth a billion dollars.

What did you do today? Play elevator music at the Tiki Lounge?

Run along, boy. You're outclassed in every way imaginable. Well, except for one thing: You rock that mullet, dood.

 

[Charles_Main]

If the Bush tax cuts worked so well, why are we just coming out of a 2 year recession?

Dumb quote of the year nominee.... Obviously you have not been paying attention the past 4 years and seen all of the money we have been spending.... You may want to check that out...

Why would spending money cause a recession? That's mental.

It's called Debt braniac.

 

[The T]

Dumb quote of the year nominee.... Obviously you have not been paying attention the past 4 years and seen all of the money we have been spending.... You may want to check that out...

Why would spending money cause a recession? That's mental.

It's called Debt braniac.

And that debt is Generational theft and it's creating obstensively a new slavery class to pay it off.

 

[rightwinger]

Why would spending money cause a recession? That's mental.

It's called Debt braniac.

And that debt is Generational theft and it's creating obstensively a new slavery class to pay it off.

LOL

Coming from a guy who advocates adding to the national debt to provide tax breaks to the wealthy

 

[shintao]

12 broken aircraft worth a half-billion dollars safely stopped by aircraft arresting gear I maintained and certified, manned by 18 priceless aircrew. Now I manage a fleet of equipment worth a billion dollars.

So basically you are a private contractor using the government for a living. One of my relatives in Arizona builds the emergency chutes for Airbus. My question to you is, why is what you do, not socialism? The government should be doing this with their own people, and not contracting work to the public just to sustain them, and taxpayers have to pay for you as a private enterprise. Surely that is socialism.

 

[daveman]

12 broken aircraft worth a half-billion dollars safely stopped by aircraft arresting gear I maintained and certified, manned by 18 priceless aircrew. Now I manage a fleet of equipment worth a billion dollars.

So basically you are a private contractor using the government for a living. One of my relatives in Arizona builds the emergency chutes for Airbus. My question to you is, why is what you do, not socialism? The government should be doing this with their own people, and not contracting work to the public just to sustain them, and taxpayers have to pay for you as a private enterprise. Surely that is socialism.

No, I'm active-duty Air Force. I don't know where you got that I'm a contractor.

 

[The T]

It's called Debt braniac.

And that debt is Generational theft and it's creating obstensively a new slavery class to pay it off.

LOL

Coming from a guy who advocates adding to the national debt to provide tax breaks to the wealthy

Keep laughing sewer boy. Tax breaks do not add to debt. Government spending does shithead. Economics 101 shit for brains.

Politicians create the ******* DEBT with their spending. And they're spending us and future generations into slavery just to pay off their elaborate Socialist programs for those that refuse to work to even PAY taxes.

Wake the HELL up...

 

[KissMy]

The threat of higher taxes & hostile business environment has Coca-Cola the #1 American Business Brand Icon wanting to leave the country.

John Farrell, global head of strategic planning, says Coke approaches the world not as an American company that does a lot of business abroad, but as a global company that numbers the U.S. among its hundreds of markets. Since last year, Coke has announced plans to invest a total of $27 billion in developing countries over the next decade. Last Wednesday it acquired Russian juice maker Nidan for an undisclosed sum.