Federal judge stalls Obama's executive action on immigration

[Ravi]

you're too stupid to understand legislation, explaining it to you is a waste of my time.

end of your story

I see. So Obama created legislation, which you think is within the purvey of his executive powers?

Someone here is indeed stupid.

apparently you don't see .... try post #56 ... have your garbageman explain it to you.

He is his garbage man. He lives at the dump.

 

[Siete]

you're too stupid to understand legislation, explaining it to you is a waste of my time.

end of your story

I see. So Obama created legislation, which you think is within the purvey of his executive powers?

Someone here is indeed stupid.

apparently you don't see .... try post #56 ... have your garbageman explain it to you.

He is his garbage man. He lives at the dump.

he upgraded?

 

[AmericanGirl05]

Courts also have limited power to implement the decisions that they make. For example, if the president or another member of the executive branch chooses to ignore a ruling, there is very little that the federal courts can do about it.

For example, the Supreme Court ruled against the removal of the Cherokee from their native lands in 1831. President Andrew Jackson disagreed. He proceeded with the removal of the Cherokee, and the Supreme Court was powerless to enforce its decision.

Obama needs money to fund USCIS to implement this misguided policy.

Congress HAS to appropriate it. God forbid Obama should start spending without Congressional authorization. That WILL get him impeached and very likely convicted.

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

 

[Kondor3]

Federal judge stalls Obama s executive action on immigration


Finally a judge with some balls.

Ok...you like judges now, eh?

Not really, but folks tend to make exceptions for the gutsy ones that are willing to stand up to a highly unpopular Imperial Decree...

 

[Siete]

Courts also have limited power to implement the decisions that they make. For example, if the president or another member of the executive branch chooses to ignore a ruling, there is very little that the federal courts can do about it.

For example, the Supreme Court ruled against the removal of the Cherokee from their native lands in 1831. President Andrew Jackson disagreed. He proceeded with the removal of the Cherokee, and the Supreme Court was powerless to enforce its decision.

Obama needs money to fund USCIS to implement this misguided policy.

Congress HAS to appropriate it. God forbid Obama should start spending without Congressional authorization. That WILL get him impeached and very likely convicted.

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

the House passed legislation defunding the immigration EO, assuming the Senate follows suit, the POTUS can veto to bill.

the House passed legislation defunding ACA 55 times ... how's that working out ?

 

[AmericanGirl05]

Courts also have limited power to implement the decisions that they make. For example, if the president or another member of the executive branch chooses to ignore a ruling, there is very little that the federal courts can do about it.

For example, the Supreme Court ruled against the removal of the Cherokee from their native lands in 1831. President Andrew Jackson disagreed. He proceeded with the removal of the Cherokee, and the Supreme Court was powerless to enforce its decision.

Obama needs money to fund USCIS to implement this misguided policy.

Congress HAS to appropriate it. God forbid Obama should start spending without Congressional authorization. That WILL get him impeached and very likely convicted.

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

the House passed legislation defunding the immigration EO, assuming the Senate follows suit, the POTUS can veto to bill.

the House passed legislation defunding ACA 55 times ... how's that working out ?

He can do that. What that means is that DHS has to go into shutdown mode and TSA screeners will be working, but without paychecks. Same with the Coast Guard and the Secret Service.

But some aliens won't get their green cards.

 

[eagle7_31]

Federal judge stalls Obama s executive action on immigration


Finally a judge with some balls.

there maybe hope for the country yet.

 

[Siete]

Federal judge stalls Obama s executive action on immigration


Finally a judge with some balls.

there maybe hope for the country yet.

hope the Republicans find a candidate for 2016, and if by chance they do, I hope they can find someone left to vote for him/her

 

[Siete]

Courts also have limited power to implement the decisions that they make. For example, if the president or another member of the executive branch chooses to ignore a ruling, there is very little that the federal courts can do about it.

For example, the Supreme Court ruled against the removal of the Cherokee from their native lands in 1831. President Andrew Jackson disagreed. He proceeded with the removal of the Cherokee, and the Supreme Court was powerless to enforce its decision.

Obama needs money to fund USCIS to implement this misguided policy.

Congress HAS to appropriate it. God forbid Obama should start spending without Congressional authorization. That WILL get him impeached and very likely convicted.

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

the House passed legislation defunding the immigration EO, assuming the Senate follows suit, the POTUS can veto to bill.

the House passed legislation defunding ACA 55 times ... how's that working out ?

He can do that. What that means is that DHS has to go into shutdown mode and TSA screeners will be working, but without paychecks. Same with the Coast Guard and the Secret Service.

But some aliens won't get their green cards.

no pay , onus, Republicans.

 

[Contumacious]

The Federal Government has no jurisdiction over aliens - none - its ONLY jurisdiction over aliens is over those who have requested to be US Citizens pursuant to the Naturalization proviso pursuant to Article I, section 8, clause 4 .

The states as sovereign entities RETAINED the right to confer their jurisdiction upon whomsoever.

The parts of the Constitution you quoted, give the Fed govt. that authority.

But if you want to talk about things the Fed govt doesn't have authority over, since they are not mentioned in the Constitution....

...try quoting the part of the Constitution that gives the Fed govt the authority to run health-insurance programs.

Or retirement programs.

Or to make laws about minimum wage.

Either the Constitution (1787) applies all the time or it doesn't apply at all. I hate it when motherfuckers only want to enforce those provisos they find convenient.

Here is Founding Father and Third President backing up my assertions:


4. Resolved, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force.

Thomas Jefferson

 

[EatMorChikin]

Republicans: ridding the country of nasty Latinos. Great platform to run on.

We have a system of legal immigration in this nation you dimwit.

 

[JFK_USA]

Any shut down would clearly be the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Everybody knows that.

Yeah! Everybody knows that!

Yep

No.

Because guess what? Obama doesn't have to sign the bill. He can veto it, and Congress can try to override his veto. Obama isn't powerless here. Republicans need to learn the word "compromise" and maybe their defeat in 2016 won't be so bad.

Oh and 1 more thing. It's a Republican judge. Why is the right all of a sudden for judicial activism?

Hanen, who's been on the federal court since 2002 after being nominated by President George W. Bush, regularly handles border cases but wasn't known for being outspoken on immigration until a 2013 case.

 

[BluesLegend]

Any shut down would clearly be the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Everybody knows that.

Yeah! Everybody knows that!

Yep

No.

Because guess what? Obama doesn't have to sign the bill. He can veto it, and Congress can try to override his veto. Obama isn't powerless here. Republicans need to learn the word "compromise" and maybe their defeat in 2016 won't be so bad.

Oh and 1 more thing. It's a Republican judge. Why is the right all of a sudden for judicial activism?

Hanen, who's been on the federal court since 2002 after being nominated by President George W. Bush, regularly handles border cases but wasn't known for being outspoken on immigration until a 2013 case.

The left can shove compromise up their ass.

 

[JFK_USA]

Republicans: ridding the country of nasty Latinos. Great platform to run on.

We have a system of legal immigration in this nation you dimwit.

That has failed and is a complete mess. The average application to just get into the country is 7 to 9 years. That doesn't include the 3-5 year waiting period for APPLYING for US citizenship and then the process of obtaining US citizenship.

You really think someone in a desperate situation is going to say "Oh I will just wait 7 years to make some money. Hope I don't die." It's a failed system that creates the problem of illegal immigration. But Republicans won't do anything about the system because it would hurt their employer donors who make a shit ton off of cheap labor.

 

[JFK_USA]

Any shut down would clearly be the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Everybody knows that.

Yeah! Everybody knows that!

Yep

No.

Because guess what? Obama doesn't have to sign the bill. He can veto it, and Congress can try to override his veto. Obama isn't powerless here. Republicans need to learn the word "compromise" and maybe their defeat in 2016 won't be so bad.

Oh and 1 more thing. It's a Republican judge. Why is the right all of a sudden for judicial activism?

Hanen, who's been on the federal court since 2002 after being nominated by President George W. Bush, regularly handles border cases but wasn't known for being outspoken on immigration until a 2013 case.

The left can shove compromise up their ass.

Oh okay, so YOU BELIEVE that only ONE party should get to dictate government policy? Sounds very communistic to me. But what do I know right? I am just a commie liberal.

 

[AmericanGirl05]

Obama needs money to fund USCIS to implement this misguided policy.

Congress HAS to appropriate it. God forbid Obama should start spending without Congressional authorization. That WILL get him impeached and very likely convicted.

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

the House passed legislation defunding the immigration EO, assuming the Senate follows suit, the POTUS can veto to bill.

the House passed legislation defunding ACA 55 times ... how's that working out ?

He can do that. What that means is that DHS has to go into shutdown mode and TSA screeners will be working, but without paychecks. Same with the Coast Guard and the Secret Service.

But some aliens won't get their green cards.

no pay , onus, Republicans.

I'm a retired Fed. Been shut down a lot. Still vote Republican.


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[AmericanFirst]

Any shut down would clearly be the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Everybody knows that.

Yeah! Everybody knows that!

Yep

No.

Because guess what? Obama doesn't have to sign the bill. He can veto it, and Congress can try to override his veto. Obama isn't powerless here. Republicans need to learn the word "compromise" and maybe their defeat in 2016 won't be so bad.

Oh and 1 more thing. It's a Republican judge. Why is the right all of a sudden for judicial activism?

Hanen, who's been on the federal court since 2002 after being nominated by President George W. Bush, regularly handles border cases but wasn't known for being outspoken on immigration until a 2013 case.

Obutthurt needs to learn compromise, since you idiots elected him he has ruled with 'my way or the highway' mentality.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Obama will appeal the ruling. Congress must pass a specific bill to override an EO. The POTUS can veto that bill.

He will appeal. He may very well lose. In fact, I think he WILL lose.

Congress has already passed laws that override his EO. That is what the dispute is all about.

But Congress has every right to refuse to fund any policy, let alone one that is probably illegal.

It is not any different than any other policy initiative.

the House passed legislation defunding the immigration EO, assuming the Senate follows suit, the POTUS can veto to bill.

the House passed legislation defunding ACA 55 times ... how's that working out ?

He can do that. What that means is that DHS has to go into shutdown mode and TSA screeners will be working, but without paychecks. Same with the Coast Guard and the Secret Service.

But some aliens won't get their green cards.

no pay , onus, Republicans.

I'm a retired Fed. Been shut down a lot. Still vote Republican.


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Me also.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

We have a system of legal immigration in this nation you dimwit.

;Yup - and america allows by far more legal immigration than any other country in the world. Our standards are very low and yet the illegals still can't meet them and so they break our laws and invade america. Illegals are the welfare bums of latin america and thats why obozo loves them.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Obutthurt needs to learn compromise, since you idiots elected him he has ruled with 'my way or the highway' mentality.

And how does he get away with that attitude? Because the press is always on his side. The press is racist and has adopted the motto - We will never challenge a black president on anything. That's pure racism.