Father of Oregon killer blames GUNS, not son, for massacre?

[Lonestar_logic]

Stop giving your children guns, people. And that especially means you, ya camo-wearing redneck fuckwits. This deranged moron was raised by gun-obsessed loons. Just stop giving your children firearms. Period, end of story.

You raise your children, I'll raise mine.

 

[paulitician]

Stop giving your children guns, people. And that especially means you, ya camo-wearing redneck fuckwits. This deranged moron was raised by gun-obsessed loons. Just stop giving your children firearms. Period, end of story.

You raise your children, I'll raise mine.

Stop giving your kids firearms. It effects us all. The Mother should be tarred & feathered.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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So you agree that registration of weapons and the use of national data bases to keep weapons and dangerous chemicals out of the hands of the whack-o's is the answer?

So you want to register gasoline? We have to fill out a form and wait 10 days before filling our cars? You leftists won't be happy until we have to beg permission from federal overlords to use the bathroom in our own house.

When I was a kid, I took a .22 rifle to show and tell. No schools were shot up in those days. Now pointing a finger gets a kid arrested and the school put on lockdown.

The problem ain't the guns.

See there! The left and right needn't be so far apart on this.

The left is insane and has no grip on reality.

 

[paulitician]

WTF is goin on in this country?? Americans, will ya please stop handing your deranged mutant kids an arsenal of firearms? Could ya please help us out here? Whata ya say?

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Stop giving your kids firearms. It effects us all. The Mother should be tarred & feathered.

I gave my son a rifle at age 9. I taught him gun safety and how to shoot. Now at 26, he has a healthy respect for firearms and what they can do.

The insane think that objects have motives, that objects can commit crimes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

But do they work just fine? Seems murders in those countries doesn't decrease all that dramatically, criminals just use other methods to kill.

Uh, no, they really don't. Those other countries- and I specifically mean other industrialized democracies - don't have anywhere near our murder rates. We have a murder rate along with the third world countries,

Oh my Allah Comrade Stalin, so the USA has seen a sharp increase in homicide?

No? In fact just the opposite, homicide, particularly with firearms has sharply dropped in the last 20 years?

Since this is the case, what is your point Comrade Stalin? That you and your filthy party are at war to end civil rights? We already know that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You think there is any squishpot moronic left wing voter on this site that realizes they are nothing but pawns?

I honestly think the left truly yearns for dictatorship. I sincerely believe based on their posts that people like RDean, Synthia, JoeBStalin, et al, have burning need for a strong man to rule over them. Someone who will guide them in every aspect of their life, tell them what to think, do, eat. Where to work, when to shit, what is funny, etc.

The left minions fear above all else, choice. They will suffer and deprivation, they will accept any degradation, simply to have a parent figure making their decisions for them. The most important aspect of this psychosis is to infringe on others. Letting some incompetent fool like Obama micromanage the life of a minion like JoeB is no good if he sees his neighbors doing better, so the leftist MUST impose the rule of their dictators on all, so that they never suffer the envy of seeing those who made better choices.

Meaning, there are two types of liberals. Most of them are way too stupid to understand that they are nothing but pawns. They buy into all of the democrat talking points. (socialist talking points, victimology class war fare etc.)

No, they actually listen to a liar like obama who says shit like "fair share" or "if you like your plan....." or "cities with the strictest gun control laws have the least gun violence."

From what I have see of all the moron left wing moonbats that post here, they are that type. Utterly useless, brainwashed asshats. Like ALL of the left wing voters, they all think they are oh smart and isn't that the most annoying part? How dumb they are and how smart they think they are.

Then there is other liberal. They are in fact not liberal AT ALL. They are full blown marxists. They are not even socialist (actually PURE socialism is communism.) They are committed saul alinsky disciples. Most of the "Ivy League" graduates that go into politics understand what the goal is and how to manipulate the masses. They know the morons (like all of the ones that post here for example) are too stupid to catch on to their robin hood narrative or their victimoloy strategy.

I will bet those left wing Ivy leaguers are amazed at just how stupid their voting base actually is. I think they are looking at the blatant lies they have told and HAVE BEEN CAUGHT RED HANDED and yet their dumb base shouts even louder in support of all their dumb talking points.

Hence, the reason obama does not even attempt tp disguise his bullshit anymore. Is there a poster that you have seen on here that falls into the small percentage of the deliberate manipulators, or are they all what I think? Utter useless brainless, intolerant, ignorant, intolerable, hypocritical morons?

Agreed.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Stop giving your children guns, people. And that especially means you, ya camo-wearing redneck fuckwits. This deranged moron was raised by gun-obsessed loons. Just stop giving your children firearms. Period, end of story.

You raise your children, I'll raise mine.

Stop giving your kids firearms. It effects us all. The Mother should be tarred & feathered.

The mother died in childbirth, you're welcome to dig her up and tar and feather her. As for you telling me how to raise my children. FUCK YOU!

 

[AVG-JOE]

Blaming everything but the person doing the killing... Only in progressive America that is possible, I guess.

Embracing the suck

Oh, the latest whack-job to get his 15 minutes is definitely to blame for this one, for all the good that does.

Blame is pointless in a case like this. Preventing the next whack-job of having access to similar weaponry is the goal

 

[AVG-JOE]

Not sure if this is accurate but I have heard the guns may have been purchased by and belonged to his mother who purchased them leaglly. I believe that was also the case with Newtown shooter Adam Lanza.

Yes, that true hence... Universal background checks would have done nothing to prevent.

Unless of course the giving of guns to your warped spawn could result in criminal liability for the giver.

Who knows if Adam Lanza's mother would have supplied the arsenal to her kid if there had been previous prosecutions of parents under similar circumstances.

 

[AVG-JOE]

But do they work just fine? Seems murders in those countries doesn't decrease all that dramatically, criminals just use other methods to kill.

Uh, no, they really don't. Those other countries- and I specifically mean other industrialized democracies - don't have anywhere near our murder rates. We have a murder rate along with the third world countries,

Say WHAT?!?
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MEXICO is considered a "Developed Country"?!?


If Mexico is developed, why is everyone trying to get out?

 

[koshergrl]

Not sure what you're saying.

This kid would have run around with a knife, killing all those people?
.

Knife, ballbat. Molotov cocktail, machete, sword, pressure cooker filled with ball bearings.

What was going to stop him?

The unarmed guard?

I really, really doubt it, but that's your call.

After all the school slaughters we've seen with guns - when I see a kid commit mass murder with something other than a gun, I'll look at it.
.

You mean like Timothy McVeigh?

The trick though is keeping 310 million guns away from every whack job, good luck with that

So..... what? We quit? We just let the little terrorists win? That's sad, Man.

No...we let people defend themselves. What is wrong with you?

And how's that been working out? America is dying proof that arming a society does not make it a peaceful society.

The armed segments of the country are doing just fine.

It's the unarmed areas where people are being shot up.

 

[Rustic]

Not sure if this is accurate but I have heard the guns may have been purchased by and belonged to his mother who purchased them leaglly. I believe that was also the case with Newtown shooter Adam Lanza.

Yes, that true hence... Universal background checks would have done nothing to prevent.

Unless of course the giving of guns to your warped spawn could result in criminal liability for the giver.

Who knows if Adam Lanza's mother would have supplied the arsenal to her kid if there had been previous prosecutions of parents under similar circumstances.

Fine, leave the guns out of it... They have nothing to do with the equation.

Physically impossible for a gun to make anyone do anything.

 

[koshergrl]

Unfettered? That's a lie

Again, shootings are rare and an acceptable risk to live in America

That would imply that countries with common sense gun laws are somehow less desirable to live in than America, and that just isn't the case.

I have never heard of a 'common sense gun law'

-Geaux

Think Mao, Stalin, Hitler.

 

[koshergrl]

Not sure if this is accurate but I have heard the guns may have been purchased by and belonged to his mother who purchased them leaglly. I believe that was also the case with Newtown shooter Adam Lanza.

Yes, that true hence... Universal background checks would have done nothing to prevent.

Unless of course the giving of guns to your warped spawn could result in criminal liability for the giver.

Who knows if Adam Lanza's mother would have supplied the arsenal to her kid if there had been previous prosecutions of parents under similar circumstances.

What we do know is that if Lanza's mother or the UCC shooter's mother had left their kids in the nut hatch the first time they refused their meds and got aggressive, neither shooting would have taken place.

Crazy people belong behind bars.

That includes you, of course.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Say WHAT?!?
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MEXICO is considered a "Developed Country"?!?


If Mexico is developed, why is everyone trying to get out?

So, you've never been there?

I just got back.

Yes, it is a developed country with the 11th largest economy in the world.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Knife, ballbat. Molotov cocktail, machete, sword, pressure cooker filled with ball bearings.

What was going to stop him?

The unarmed guard?

I really, really doubt it, but that's your call.

After all the school slaughters we've seen with guns - when I see a kid commit mass murder with something other than a gun, I'll look at it.
.

You mean like Timothy McVeigh?

The trick though is keeping 310 million guns away from every whack job, good luck with that

So..... what? We quit? We just let the little terrorists win? That's sad, Man.

No...we let people defend themselves. What is wrong with you?

And how's that been working out? America is dying proof that arming a society does not make it a peaceful society.

The armed segments of the country are doing just fine.

It's the unarmed areas where people are being shot up.

Got link?

 

[koshergrl]

Knife, ballbat. Molotov cocktail, machete, sword, pressure cooker filled with ball bearings.

What was going to stop him?

The unarmed guard?

I really, really doubt it, but that's your call.

After all the school slaughters we've seen with guns - when I see a kid commit mass murder with something other than a gun, I'll look at it.
.

You mean like Timothy McVeigh?

The trick though is keeping 310 million guns away from every whack job, good luck with that

So..... what? We quit? We just let the little terrorists win? That's sad, Man.

No...we let people defend themselves. What is wrong with you?

And how's that been working out? America is dying proof that arming a society does not make it a peaceful society.

The armed segments of the country are doing just fine.

It's the unarmed areas where people are being shot up.

Got link?

Try to use complete sentences.

 

[koshergrl]

"Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states."

(STUDY) Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders and Less Violent Crime

 

[koshergrl]

"It was also found that assault weapons bans did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level. These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level. The results of this study are consistent with some prior research in this area, most notably Lott and Mustard (1997)."

(STUDY) Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders and Less Violent Crime

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