'Extremely Unfair': Bernie Sanders Denies His Form of Socialism Is the Same as Venezuela's or Cuba's

[Thinker101]

I don't know how to discuss this topic with people who are clearly not paying attention.

Talk radio is lying to you. Fox News is, too. Breitbart is, too. They're trying to scare you.

It looks like it's working.
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Now you know how the rest of us feel...dumbass.

 

[Mac1958]

Of course it isn't. They're looking at Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway.

Talk radio has its minions terrified about Venezuela, but that's all just for fun. And ratings.

That's not democratic socialism.

It's closer to Venezuela and Cuba than anything.

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Then you don't understand what they are saying.

It really isn't all that tough. I know it's easier to just scream VENEZUELA, but it's just not accurate.
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Socialism is government ownership and control of the means of production.

Democratic Socialism is the same thing, but we all get to vote on things.



Canada, Australia, Germany, and Norway are not true "socialist" states. They have a lot of government freebies, but not straight-up government ownership and control of production, like Venezuela and Democratic Socialism.

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And the Democrats are not after government ownership of production and distribution.

Health care? Yes, and I'm against Single Payer too. But they're not talking about ownership across the board, and non-socialist countries have Single Payer.

I just wish we could have an honest, pragmatic conversation about where along the continuum of government involvement is optimal.

Just screaming SOCIALISM or VENEZUELA at everything that moves is silly and pointless. Just like the way the Left screams RACISM at everything that moves.

I think we've lost the ability to communicate.
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[Mac1958]

I don't know how to discuss this topic with people who are clearly not paying attention.

Talk radio is lying to you. Fox News is, too. Breitbart is, too. They're trying to scare you.

It looks like it's working.
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Now you know how the rest of us feel...dumbass.

Then don't reply to my posts, Einstein. I didn't post to you.
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[Bruce_T_Laney]

Of course it isn't. They're looking at Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway.

Talk radio has its minions terrified about Venezuela, but that's all just for fun. And ratings.

Sanders is leading us to a form of Marxism and let not deny it anymore...

Two decades ago America would have laughed him off the stage and never gave him the time or day but what two decades of wars and no compromise governments can do.

I know you think I am full of it but Sanders would be in the Trotsky camp. He is not a Stalinist at all.

Major flaw with most of the left candidates is simple and they are idealists and not realists...

Socialism to take ahold will take many generations at local and State level to even have a chance at the Federal Level.

You have to program the next generation mind and right now our nation is not ready for Sanders form of Socialism or Marxism.

Sorry but true...

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Of course it isn't. They're looking at Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway. Talk radio has its minions terrified about Venezuela, but that's all just for fun. And ratings.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Correct. They would be referred to as "democratic socialist" by anyone who is paying attention.
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Democratic Socialist without a military to pay for, or a UN to pay for or NATO to pay for or 3 dozen smaller countries to provide $billions in aide to.
If America was 1/4th as nationalistic/region-centric as European countries are...we could afford many things.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then Sweden isn't socialist

Correct, it isn't.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sanders is leading us to a form of Marxism and let not deny it anymore...

No, that's wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

Then Sweden isn't socialist

Correct, it isn't.

All your Komrades in here always use it as an example of successful socialism.

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie wants the Government to do more for working people in healthcare, education and ability to retire

And idiot liberals want free shit...go figure.

No ......the Government doing things for the people is not “free shit” because it is needed

The Government doing things for the wealthy is FREE SHIT

 

[bripat9643]

Bernie wants the Government to do more for working people in healthcare, education and ability to retire

And idiot liberals want free shit...go figure.

No ......the Government doing things for the people is not “free shit” because it is needed

The Government doing things for the wealthy is FREE SHIT

Yes, it is free shit. Whether you need something is almost entirely subjective.

 

[iceberg]

this is just too damn funny.

MY SOCIALISM CAN BEAT UP YOUR SOCIALISM!!!!

neither one is gonna get off their ass and work for it or they'd not be WANTING that shit.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course it isn't. They're looking at Canada, Australia, Germany, Norway. Talk radio has its minions terrified about Venezuela, but that's all just for fun. And ratings.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Correct. They would be referred to as "democratic socialist" by anyone who is paying attention.
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Democratic Socialist without a military to pay for, or a UN to pay for or NATO to pay for or 3 dozen smaller countries to provide $billions in aide to.
If America was 1/4th as nationalistic/region-centric as European countries are...we could afford many things.

No question America pays a price to maintain a military that is stronger than the next ten nations combined

It comes at the expense of modern infrastructure, affordable healthcare and education and the environment

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All your Komrades in here always use it as an example of successful socialism.

No, they piint to the successful socialist programs. Come on man, this shouldn't strain your brain so much to puzzle out these nuances.

 

[bripat9643]

All your Komrades in here always use it as an example of successful socialism.

No, they piint to the successful socialist programs. Come on man, this shouldn't strain your brain so much to puzzle out these nuances.

Just as I said, Komrades in here always use it as an example of successful socialism.

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie wants the Government to do more for working people in healthcare, education and ability to retire

And idiot liberals want free shit...go figure.

No ......the Government doing things for the people is not “free shit” because it is needed

The Government doing things for the wealthy is FREE SHIT

Yes, it is free shit. Whether you need something is almost entirely subjective.

The American people deserve a standard of living that includes healthcare, education and a comfortable retirement. Other countries do it

The wealthy do not deserve a larger slice of the pie

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, it is free shit.

No, its paid for almost entirely by the rich and corporations. . Just like all the handouts you already get, like infrastructure, public services, etc

 

[bripat9643]

Bernie wants the Government to do more for working people in healthcare, education and ability to retire

And idiot liberals want free shit...go figure.

No ......the Government doing things for the people is not “free shit” because it is needed

The Government doing things for the wealthy is FREE SHIT

Yes, it is free shit. Whether you need something is almost entirely subjective.

The American people deserve a standard of living that includes healthcare, education and a comfortable retirement. Other countries do it

The wealthy do not deserve a larger slice of the pie

They do that by earning a good income, dumbass. Your belief that these things can't be purchased is laughable.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, it is free shit.

No, its paid for almost entirely by the rich and corporations. . Just like all the handouts you already get, like infrastructure, public services, etc

How are they "handouts" when I pay taxes to pay for them? I pay far more than they were worth.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They do that by earning a good income, dumbass

Made possible by a strong economy fueled by peole with economic security and disposable income,ya fuckin moron. Goddamn you people are stupid.

 

[iceberg]

They do that by earning a good income, dumbass

Made possible by a strong economy fueled by peole with economic security and disposable income,ya fuckin moron. Goddamn you people are stupid.

dude, it honestly hurts me to dumb myself down enough to try and understand you.