EXCELLENT! Department of Education may be axed!

[westwall]

In the 1950s and 1960s, attending college in the United States, especially public colleges, was significantly less expensive than it is today. Tuition fees at public colleges were either minimal or nonexistent in many cases. Here’s why:

1. Government Funding​

• During this period, there was heavy investment in higher education from federal and state governments. This included programs like the GI Bill after World War II, which covered tuition and living expenses for millions of veterans, further increasing access to education.
• States heavily subsidized their public colleges, which kept tuition low or eliminated it entirely. In states like California, the California Master Plan for Higher Education (1960) made tuition free at state colleges and universities for in-state residents.

2. Post-War Economic Boom​

• The U.S. experienced significant economic growth after World War II, leading to increased tax revenue and public investment in infrastructure, including education.
• Education was seen as a public good essential for national development, leading to policies that kept costs low.

3. Smaller Student Loan Industry​

• The federal student loan program was relatively new (launched in the 1950s), and loans were not the primary way students paid for college. Financial aid primarily came from grants, scholarships, and state funding.

Contrast with Today:​

Over the years, as state funding for higher education has decreased and colleges have increasingly relied on tuition for revenue, the cost of attending college has skyrocketed. Adjusting for inflation, the average cost of tuition and fees has risen far beyond what it was in the mid-20th century.

So, while college wasn't always completely free, it was far more affordable and often close to free for many students, particularly at public institutions.

Yeah, not free, and try adjusting for inflation

 

[TruthNotBS]

Yeah, not free, and try adjusting for inflation

Yes, often free. California, one of the largest states offered its residents a free college education. So yeah free or almost free, as in affordable for everyone. Inflation doesn't justify the astronomical cost of a college education today, or tens of millions of our children being heavily indebted before they even start their careers. Baby boomers, not even GenXers like myself, had to deal with the high tuition costs we have today. Education should be seen as part of our nation's vital infrastructure, without investing in it our country suffers.

 

[westwall]

Yes, often free. California, one of the largest states offered its residents a free college education. So yeah free or almost free, as in affordable for everyone. Inflation doesn't justify the astronomical cost of a college education today, or tens of millions of our children being heavily indebted before they even start their careers. Baby boomers, not even GenXers like myself, had to deal with the high tuition costs we have today. Education should be seen as part of our nation's vital infrastructure, without investing in it our country suffers.

No, never free. Unlike you I was alive at the time. Now, if you want to talk merit, or sport based scholarships, sure. Those exist today.

You people love to trot out Germany's "free" college too.

The reality is in kindergarten you take a test. You fail it, you're off the college track.

In middle school, you take a test. Fail it, and you're off the college track.

In high school you take a very hard test. Fail it, and you guessed it, you're off the college track.

Forever.

Now, that only applies to students who get their tuition paid by the government. But if your parents have enough money, they can usually by their not so bright or motivated child a place in college, but THEY have to pay for it.

 

[ScorpioRising007]

Let's be honest, this is the Department of Dem mooching parasites. Get a real job you losers, stop mooching off taxpayers.

I currently work in Healthcare because I never could land a teaching job with a Master's Degree in Education. I also have a CDL and worked as a truck driver because I never could land a teaching job. Both jobs paid better than what teachers are paid in my state. The best I could do in the Department of Education was work as a paraprofessional for $50/day with no benefits and I worked my ass off at that job often being asked by teachers to do most of their job. Teaching is a very hard job to land and only the most qualified get in.

 

[scruffy]

I currently work in Healthcare because I never could land a teaching job with a Master's Degree in Education. I also have a CDL and worked as a truck driver because I never could land a teaching job. Both jobs paid better than what teachers are paid in my state. The best I could do in the Department of Education was work as a paraprofessional for $50/day with no benefits and I worked my ass off at that job often being asked by teachers to do most of their job. Teaching is a very hard job to land and only the most qualified get in.

Most qualified my foot.

That's why our test scores have dropped from 1st to 24th in the last few years?

Teachers should PAY ATTENTION and tell the unions and politicians to go pound sand.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm sorry.



Lots of reasons. Series expansions being one of the more important. Lately, information geometry as it applies to AI.

But generally, Clifford algebras.

Sure, teach that to 9th graders! That's not teaching the standards.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I currently work in Healthcare because I never could land a teaching job with a Master's Degree in Education. I also have a CDL and worked as a truck driver because I never could land a teaching job. Both jobs paid better than what teachers are paid in my state. The best I could do in the Department of Education was work as a paraprofessional for $50/day with no benefits and I worked my ass off at that job often being asked by teachers to do most of their job. Teaching is a very hard job to land and only the most qualified get in.

What was your certification in? That makes all the difference in the world. I was certified in math and social studies. I could always find a math job and they would let me teach social studies also if they needed it. Principals loved seeing both on my resume. I once switched departments because the head of the social studies department left the school and the principal wanted an experienced teacher to replace him.

If you had a certification for Language Arts, you were probably out of luck! They could always hire young women straight out of college for less money.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Most qualified my foot.

That's why our test scores have dropped from 1st to 24th in the last few years?

Teachers should PAY ATTENTION and tell the unions and politicians to go pound sand.

You know nothing about those test scores and how they are determined, in order to make such a statement.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Betsy DeVos joins Trump in support of 'disbanding' the Department of Education | Fox News Video

Former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos discusses what a second Trump term may mean for U.S. education on 'The Story with Martha MacCallum.'

www.foxnews.com

Yay! I've been calling for this for a long, long time.

Check out point .25 about how America, despite all the $$$ thrown at education does not rank well compared to other countries RE education.

At point 3.20 Betsy DeVos talks about how money from the federal gvt (D of E) goes to schools with strings attached aka an AGENDA.

she must be talking about the agenda of introducing our innocent children to pornographic books...

One of the most destructive and disgusting bureaucracies in American history.

 

[SaxonJackson]

To me, it's all bluster. I don't see this happening. Trump clearly has quite a bit of disdain for the department. The fact he chose DeVos to head it up whom the Senate considered so unqualified that Mike Pence had to cast a decisive vote to let her go through speaks volumes.

^^^ Actual evidence as to why that department should go. ^^^ Millions of Americans are just as brainwashed as this cuck.

 

[80zephyr]

In schools, Title IX impacts only sports for the most part.

Bathrooms as well.

 

[Moonglow]

Betsy DeVos joins Trump in support of 'disbanding' the Department of Education | Fox News Video

Former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos discusses what a second Trump term may mean for U.S. education on 'The Story with Martha MacCallum.'

www.foxnews.com

Yay! I've been calling for this for a long, long time.

Check out point .25 about how America, despite all the $$$ thrown at education does not rank well compared to other countries RE education.

At point 3.20 Betsy DeVos talks about how money from the federal gvt (D of E) goes to schools with strings attached aka an AGENDA.

she must be talking about the agenda of introducing our innocent children to pornographic books...

Yeah, don't fix that car get rid of it and walk.

 

[Moonglow]

^^^ Actual evidence as to why that department should go. ^^^ Millions of Americans are just as brainwashed as this cuck.

You do understand that only Congress can eliminate the Department.

 

[80zephyr]

Yeah, don't fix that car get rid of it and walk.

What if getting rid of it is fixing the car?

 

[Unkotare]

I also buy things at stores...Hand $5.06 to a teenage cashier for something that costs $4.81 and watch their eyes gloss over and smoke blow out their ears.

Yeah, don't believe your own lying eyes and ears!

Look at your last two pages of posts. Right or wrong, all you ever do is fling poop like an angry monkey. Start thinking and communicating. You are NOT a conservative; you are just a dimwit who WANTS to be angry about something - anything.

 

[Unkotare]

Not sure why, but people who do not have the slightest idea of what they are talking about just cannot seem to stop themselves from vomiting up categorical statements about when the subject is education.

 

[westwall]

Not sure why, but people who do not have the slightest idea of what they are talking about just cannot seem to stop themselves from vomiting up categorical statements about when the subject is education.

The same can be said for you. You constantly ignore the fact that the public education system in the US has failed the students.

 

[Unkotare]

I have taught for many, many years at colleges and every other level. High schools at inner cities are a unique situation. For very much the most part, very good kids who deserve opportunities.

 

[Unkotare]

The same can be said for you. You constantly ignore the fact that the public education system in the US has failed the students.

How long have you taught at public schools?

 

[westwall]

How long have you taught at public schools?

Never. But I see the results. If you would like to be shocked about how far public education has devolved, go get a high school chemistry textbook from the Los Angeles Unified School District circa 1927.

Then compare it to a modern COLLEGE textbook.

The 1927 high school book is orders of magnitude superior to the college textbook. In fact, my daughter is using mine as we write.