ex governor mcdonnell indicted

I am home.

And I think you need a therapist.

The sooner you realize that our two party system shares the blame the better off you'll be.

Fuck Republicans & fuck Democrats.

The false equivalency....

It was Republicans that allowed a deregulated Wall Street to destroy the world economy in 2008.

It was Republicans on the Supreme Court that voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions. All the Democrats voted against it.

It was Republicans in Congress that voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

It was Republicans in Congress that voted against raising the minimum wage.

It was Republicans in Congress who shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

Can you imagine a corporate opponent like Elizabeth Warren running as a Republican?
looks like Jeremy is right......
 
Jesus fucking Christ Chris. You make people like Rush Limbaugh and Pierce Morgan look non-partisan. It's dumb fucks like you (on both sides) that are the shit stain on this country's shorts.

Sorry bucko. I voted Republican a few times. Before they went all Tea Party on us.

First George W. Bush's SEC let Wall Street run a derivatives based Ponzi scheme that destroyed the world economy in 2008.

Then Republicans on the Supreme Court voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions in the Citizens United decision.

Then Republicans in Congress voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

Then Republicans in the House shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

And now Republicans in Congress refuse to raise the minimum wage.

Why would anyone vote for a party that hates government and continually tries to damage our country?

Sorry bucko. I voted Republican a few times.


sure you have Chris.....i have been here just about as long as you and have never seen you say that until now.....but yet you have thousands of threads supporting the Democrats no matter what.....a person as far left as you has NEVER voted for a Righty.....

Define "far left". It's used too often not to be defined and I doubt anyone who uses the term has a clue. It's used like "asshole" or "libtard" by ignorant partisans as a pejorative, so much so as to make any post calling anyone "far left" ridiculous.
 
hey Chris?.....would you have even paid attention to this story if the guy was a Democrat?....hey just askin....

Lots of attention was attached to Governor Rod Blagojevich from both sides of the aisle. But Harry, why the non sequitur? Why point fingers at Democrats when the current person indicted and alleged to have been corrupt is a very conservative Republican.

im pointing a finger at Chris.....not Democrats.....and i notice the asswipe has not answered this question.....Chris claims he has supported Republicans before......i have never seen him say anything even remotely good about any Republican...and by avoiding this question i think i can safely say Chris is a lying asswipe....
 
Sorry bucko. I voted Republican a few times. Before they went all Tea Party on us.

First George W. Bush's SEC let Wall Street run a derivatives based Ponzi scheme that destroyed the world economy in 2008.

Then Republicans on the Supreme Court voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions in the Citizens United decision.

Then Republicans in Congress voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

Then Republicans in the House shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

And now Republicans in Congress refuse to raise the minimum wage.

Why would anyone vote for a party that hates government and continually tries to damage our country?

Sorry bucko. I voted Republican a few times.


sure you have Chris.....i have been here just about as long as you and have never seen you say that until now.....but yet you have thousands of threads supporting the Democrats no matter what.....a person as far left as you has NEVER voted for a Righty.....

Define "far left". It's used too often not to be defined and I doubt anyone who uses the term has a clue. It's used like "asshole" or "libtard" by ignorant partisans as a pejorative, so much so as to make any post calling anyone "far left" ridiculous.

to me a Far Lefty is someone who NEVER questions the Democrats no matter what they do.....and Chris and Dean and Franco and Hazel nut are examples.....the same goes with far righties.....like Katzndogs,Rabbi and Shootspeedos and Rotweiler...NEVER question just defend......
 

Sorry bucko. I voted Republican a few times.


sure you have Chris.....i have been here just about as long as you and have never seen you say that until now.....but yet you have thousands of threads supporting the Democrats no matter what.....a person as far left as you has NEVER voted for a Righty.....

Define "far left". It's used too often not to be defined and I doubt anyone who uses the term has a clue. It's used like "asshole" or "libtard" by ignorant partisans as a pejorative, so much so as to make any post calling anyone "far left" ridiculous.

to me a Far Lefty is someone who NEVER questions the Democrats no matter what they do.....and Chris and Dean and Franco and Hazel nut are examples.....the same goes with far righties.....like Katzndogs,Rabbi and Shootspeedos and Rotweiler...NEVER question just defend......

Thanks. The far left (once known as the New Left) is how I define it. Its members wear masks at WTO events (and at OWS events) and commit vandalism and other crimes. They are not legitimate protesters. Most seem to be anarchists and motivated by the thrill of being anti establishment which mitigates for the moment an unrequited anger. They want change, ill defined, but want it now.

Of course there are other true believers who do have a political agenda but they eschew both the R's and the D's and vote for candidates in the Peace and Freedom Party and the Socialist Worker's Party.
 
hey Chris?.....would you have even paid attention to this story if the guy was a Democrat?....hey just askin....

Lots of attention was attached to Governor Rod Blagojevich from both sides of the aisle. But Harry, why the non sequitur? Why point fingers at Democrats when the current person indicted and alleged to have been corrupt is a very conservative Republican.

im pointing a finger at Chris.....not Democrats.....and i notice the asswipe has not answered this question.....Chris claims he has supported Republicans before......i have never seen him say anything even remotely good about any Republican...and by avoiding this question i think i can safely say Chris is a lying asswipe....

Fair enough. I've never voted for a Republican, though I did vote for John Anderson for POTUS in 1980. BTW, I'm reading The Bully Pulpit and if anyone doubts the Republican Party is no longer the party of T.R. this book will disabuse them.
 
If you read McDonnell's official statement, you notice he keeps saying he did nothing illegal.

"I deeply regret accepting legal gifts and loans..."

"...I repeat emphatically that I did nothing illegal..."

"We did not violate the law..."

You see what he did there?





He never says he did nothing wrong.


The gift scandal exposed the lax ethics regulations in place in Virginia. The House of Delegates now wants to place a $250 limit on gifts from lobbyists and others who do business with the Commonwealth. Legislators also say they want to establish a commission to advise and train elected officials about ethics and conflict-of-interest laws.

Ahh that old Dodge.

Its not wrong because its not Illegal *wink wink*
 
Lots of attention was attached to Governor Rod Blagojevich from both sides of the aisle. But Harry, why the non sequitur? Why point fingers at Democrats when the current person indicted and alleged to have been corrupt is a very conservative Republican.

im pointing a finger at Chris.....not Democrats.....and i notice the asswipe has not answered this question.....Chris claims he has supported Republicans before......i have never seen him say anything even remotely good about any Republican...and by avoiding this question i think i can safely say Chris is a lying asswipe....

Fair enough. I've never voted for a Republican, though I did vote for John Anderson for POTUS in 1980. BTW, I'm reading The Bully Pulpit and if anyone doubts the Republican Party is no longer the party of T.R. this book will disabuse them.

both parties have changed so much over the last 30 years that any Politician before the 80's would think he is in an alternate Universe....the great majority of those guys took care of the Country before themselves or the Party .....
 
im pointing a finger at Chris.....not Democrats.....and i notice the asswipe has not answered this question.....Chris claims he has supported Republicans before......i have never seen him say anything even remotely good about any Republican...and by avoiding this question i think i can safely say Chris is a lying asswipe....

Fair enough. I've never voted for a Republican, though I did vote for John Anderson for POTUS in 1980. BTW, I'm reading The Bully Pulpit and if anyone doubts the Republican Party is no longer the party of T.R. this book will disabuse them.

both parties have changed so much over the last 30 years that any Politician before the 80's would think he is in an alternate Universe....the great majority of those guys took care of the Country before themselves or the Party .....
That's exactly the way I feel. This is not the party of Reagan which I joined. Back when I joined the GOP, it was the Democrats who were the whiners and pessimists, and it was Republicans who were the smartest people in the room and putting ideas on the table.
 
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The guy's so broke he'll need a public defender. Hillary just keeps marking them off the list. Hilarious.
 
Former Virginia governor Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, were indicted Tuesday for illegally accepting gifts and loans from a political donor.

The charges against the couple were outlined in a document filed by the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia that details how the McDonnell and his wife accepted more than $135,000 in gifts and loans, trips and other items from Jonnie Williams Sr., former CEO of Star Scientific

The 14-count indictment, filed on Tuesday, charges McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, with a wide array of official corruption.

Ex-Va. governor McDonnell, wife charged in gift scandal

If proven to be true, they should pay the the price for violating the law--- no exceptions. :thup:
 
I am intrigued by the outrage over a corrupt politician...

Chris, do you have as much outrage for the players involved in the Benghazi attacks that cost many people, including 4 American's , their lives? Or is that a different kind of corruption that does not require your outrage?

McConnell deserves to be tried on any evidence that showcases his corruption-

The victims of Benghazi and the tax payers of this country likewise deserve justice on Benghazi. It is time to appoint a special prosecutor so that we have subpena power- You of course agree, Chris, right? As do all of you calling for McConnell's head- right?

Because what we all want is not just justice for one side- but justice for all. The only way for us to get back to that is to lay aside partisanship for party sake when big matters are before us. I submit that Benghazi is a big matter- good people lost their lives over what looks to be a political screw-up and then cover-up.

Of course Hillary would not fair well with an open and honest investigation. An investigation that can only get to the bottom of things with the power vested in a special prosecutor- you want that, right Chris?
 
A terrible statement about our "blind" justice system.
If you can afford and expensive lawyer it is quite beneficial to those in the upper class.
They escape justice or get a very light sentence.



I don't think they'll serve a day behind bars.
 
A terrible statement about our "blind" justice system.
If you can afford and expensive lawyer it is quite beneficial to those in the upper class.
They escape justice or get a very light sentence.



I don't think they'll serve a day behind bars.

Something to remember..... Career lawyers at Justice are mostly liberal scumbags.

Keep that in mind. Just a fact.

Remember Ted Stevens?

Republican Senator from Alaska? He was indicted on VERY similar charges and found guilty at trial.

Incidentally, he lost his Senate race because of it.

But a Judge, a Federal Judge, found that Stevens was improperly convicted and that the charges against him were mostly made up.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qM47K0QObeQ]Attorney: Prosecutors' Misconduct Was Stunning - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah, Eric Himmler applied for the dismissal of the charges but he had NO choice but to do so. When someone has NO choice but to do something, they deserve NO credit for doing so.

Great..... But Republicans still lost a Senate Seat. And a lot of reputation to go along with it. The Federal Judge also instituted an investigation and took it out of the hands of the criminals in the Holder Justice Department.

Tom DeLay, former Repubican House Whip. Conviction overturned with extreme prejudice. The Judge there said essentially the same thing. Political prosecution.

But we still lost one of the best 'whips' in Congressional History and DeLay is still reviled by dimocrap scum..... For no reason, I might add.

Same with Karl Rove.... He did nothing wrong but the dimocrap scum Fitzgerald prosecuted him based on shit evidence and cost him everything he owned.

Are the charges against McDonnell real or just more dimocrap scumbag lawyers on the loose?

I don't know, but I DO know this...... We need to take a HARD look at the Shield Laws covering prosecutors in this Country. For Instance, IMO, Mike Nifong should have gotten a minimum of twenty years at hard labor.

Personally, I would like to have seen him executed for trying to take the lives of innocent, but stupid, College Kids whose only crime was being stupid College Kids.

And don't even get me started on the McMartin pre-school trials.

People who use the power of their office to abuse every-day citizens should be punished FAR more severely than average criminals.
 
At least you are consistent. You have yet to miss and opportunity to show your complete and vulgar ignorance.
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A terrible statement about our "blind" justice system.
If you can afford and expensive lawyer it is quite beneficial to those in the upper class.
They escape justice or get a very light sentence.



I don't think they'll serve a day behind bars.

Something to remember..... Career lawyers at Justice are mostly liberal scumbags.

Keep that in mind. Just a fact.

Remember Ted Stevens?

Republican Senator from Alaska? He was indicted on VERY similar charges and found guilty at trial.

Incidentally, he lost his Senate race because of it.

But a Judge, a Federal Judge, found that Stevens was improperly convicted and that the charges against him were mostly made up.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qM47K0QObeQ]Attorney: Prosecutors' Misconduct Was Stunning - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah, Eric Himmler applied for the dismissal of the charges but he had NO choice but to do so. When someone has NO choice but to do something, they deserve NO credit for doing so.

Great..... But Republicans still lost a Senate Seat. And a lot of reputation to go along with it. The Federal Judge also instituted an investigation and took it out of the hands of the criminals in the Holder Justice Department.

Tom DeLay, former Repubican House Whip. Conviction overturned with extreme prejudice. The Judge there said essentially the same thing. Political prosecution.

But we still lost one of the best 'whips' in Congressional History and DeLay is still reviled by dimocrap scum..... For no reason, I might add.

Same with Karl Rove.... He did nothing wrong but the dimocrap scum Fitzgerald prosecuted him based on shit evidence and cost him everything he owned.

Are the charges against McDonnell real or just more dimocrap scumbag lawyers on the loose?

I don't know, but I DO know this...... We need to take a HARD look at the Shield Laws covering prosecutors in this Country. For Instance, IMO, Mike Nifong should have gotten a minimum of twenty years at hard labor.

Personally, I would like to have seen him executed for trying to take the lives of innocent, but stupid, College Kids whose only crime was being stupid College Kids.

And don't even get me started on the McMartin pre-school trials.

People who use the power of their office to abuse every-day citizens should be punished FAR more severely than average criminals.
 
im pointing a finger at Chris.....not Democrats.....and i notice the asswipe has not answered this question.....Chris claims he has supported Republicans before......i have never seen him say anything even remotely good about any Republican...and by avoiding this question i think i can safely say Chris is a lying asswipe....

Fair enough. I've never voted for a Republican, though I did vote for John Anderson for POTUS in 1980. BTW, I'm reading The Bully Pulpit and if anyone doubts the Republican Party is no longer the party of T.R. this book will disabuse them.

both parties have changed so much over the last 30 years that any Politician before the 80's would think he is in an alternate Universe....the great majority of those guys took care of the Country before themselves or the Party .....

Yep. Patriotism is not defined today by what one does, only by what one says and if they wear a flag pin.
 

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