Zone1 eternal security verse or OSAS

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John 10:28-30​


28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
 
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all;

never said by jesus - madep by the crucifiers in the 4th century: the 1st century events claimed otherwise - all who reside in the heavens are equal ... they believed in liberation theology, self determination.

an example where monotheism, all are equal made certain by the 1st century events is substituted by the crucifiers in the 4th century using monarchicalism instead to worship certain deity and using them to substitute their beliefs as being heavenly than the true nature of the universe and how it has evolved.
 
never said by jesus - madep by the crucifiers in the 4th century: the 1st century events claimed otherwise - all who reside in the heavens are equal ... they believed in liberation theology, self determination.

an example where monotheism, all are equal made certain by the 1st century events is substituted by the crucifiers in the 4th century using monarchicalism instead to worship certain deity and using them to substitute their beliefs as being heavenly than the true nature of the universe and how it has evolved.
never said?
 

John 10:28-30​


28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
whatdoes osas mean?
 
never said by jesus - madep by the crucifiers in the 4th century: the 1st century events claimed otherwise - all who reside in the heavens are equal ... they believed in liberation theology, self determination.

an example where monotheism, all are equal made certain by the 1st century events is substituted by the crucifiers in the 4th century using monarchicalism instead to worship certain deity and using them to substitute their beliefs as being heavenly than the true nature of the universe and how it has evolved.
You know that no one agrees with you. You are a lone man in your own garden.
 
never said by jesus - madep by the crucifiers in the 4th century: the 1st century events claimed otherwise - all who reside in the heavens are equal ... they believed in liberation theology, self determination.

an example where monotheism, all are equal made certain by the 1st century events is substituted by the crucifiers in the 4th century using monarchicalism instead to worship certain deity and using them to substitute their beliefs as being heavenly than the true nature of the universe and how it has evolved.

The Bible says otherwise. So, you contradict the Bible.

Which means I will disregard what you say, and believe the Bible.

Quantrill
 
The Bible says otherwise. So, you contradict the Bible.

Which means I will disregard what you say, and believe the Bible.

Quantrill

- and that said by the heavens to not intervene ever again ... for humanity to accomplish the heavenly goal as granted a&e or perish forever.

so you contradict the heavens ... best you find your penance for your own sake.
 
- and that said by the heavens to not intervene ever again ... for humanity to accomplish the heavenly goal as granted a&e or perish forever.

so you contradict the heavens ... best you find your penance for your own sake.

The Bible says otherwise. Thus I disregard your advice.

Quantrill
 
whatdoes osas mean?
These guys breeze by that question.

I looked it up and suspect that it stands for a religious belief known as “ONCE SAVE ALWAYS SAVED.”

As religious doctrines go, it is both supported by some biblical text and denied in the basis of other religious texts.

And then I lost interest in this thread.
 
The Bible says otherwise. Thus I disregard your advice.

Quantrill

no it does not, humanity will proceed without heavenly intervention till completion of their destiny.

otherwise, the bible is a book of forgeries, lies and fallacies - provide the tablets claimed by the liar moses w/ etched commandments from the heavens that never existed ... or live your life as a crucifier, a sinner of false persecution and victimization of the innocent.
 
no it does not, humanity will proceed without heavenly intervention till completion of their destiny.

otherwise, the bible is a book of forgeries, lies and fallacies - provide the tablets claimed by the liar moses w/ etched commandments from the heavens that never existed ... or live your life as a crucifier, a sinner of false persecution and victimization of the innocent.

Where does the Bible say that?

Quantrill
 

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