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Dennis it is "Critical", & yet,...... There are many, many Prophecies, & Teachings that emphasize the extreme importance of Ephraim, & Manasseh, as well as the other tribes of the Children of Yisrael.I would like to thank you for doing a vastly better job of writing up this topic than I have done so far.
Way to go TruthSeeker!
Do you believe that this topic is critical to the full understanding of possible hidden meaning in Isaiah chapter forty five?
I believe this, but I am often incorrect in some of my ideas.
I absolutely disagree about one not being able to trace their Ancestry back to a Group of People., via Historical Documents, Archeological Finds,DNA, as well as Scripture.See post #(16).
Quantrill
There is a specific DNA marker for the Cohanim, part of Levi.I absolutely disagree about one not being able to trace their Ancestry back to a Group of People., via Historical Documents, Archeological Finds,DNA, as well as Scripture.
That's True Asher, as there are DNA Markers for many different Groups of Mankind, but,..... Not According to Quantril.There is a specific DNA marker for the Cohanim, part of Levi.

Dennis it is "Critical", & yet,...... There are many, many Prophecies, & Teachings that emphasize the extreme importance of Ephraim, & Manasseh, as well as the other tribes of the Children of Yisrael.
[Yair Davidiy]
The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:
[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.
We have noted elsewhere that one of the meanings of the verse in Malchi 4: of returning the hearts of the fathers to their sons, and the heart of the children to their fathers” is to make people aware of their Israelite Tribal Identity, to let people who are descended from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel know who they are and who their tribal forefathers most likely were. This is what Brit-Am is doing. Help brit-Am. If you can help Brit-Am please do so. Causes Non-Israelite Nations to Repent “Kol HaTor” says [2.75] The Messiah Son of Joseph arouses not only Israel but also the Peoples of the World to Repent. Jonah the Prophet had the aspect of MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in his generation. His task is, “to rebuke many nations” (Isaiah 2). Turns Defeat Into Victory “Kol HaTor” says [2.91] The characteristic of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is that out of tribulation he brings salvation. The Heavenly Ladder “Kol HaTor” says [2.97] A ladder on the ground and its head reaching to heaven (Genesis 28). This is an aspect of Joseph as is known. What happened to Jacob happened to Joseph. All of his deeds were an arousal from below with an accompanying assistance from heaven. Joseph was the son of Jacob and Rachel and had the characteristics of both Jacob and Rachel. Ingathers Exiles, Rebuilds Jerusalem, Settles the Wilderness “Kol HaTor” says [2.117] The rulership of Joseph overcomes all impurity.
The task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is to remove the spirit of impurity from the Land through the ingathering of exiles, rebuilding Jerusalem, and the planting of the wilderness. Ransoming Captives “Kol HaTor” says [2.118] “And the ransomed of the LORD shall return and come to Zion” (Isaiah 35;10): The task of ransoming captives belongs to the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH who performs it by ingathering the Exiles…The Major Ingathering of the Exiles cannot be less than 600,000…They will come with rejoicing and happiness. Comment: “Kol HaTor” says The Major Ingathering of Exiles cannot be less than 600,000. 600,000 was taken to be a key number. It is interesting to note that when Israel declared its Independence in 1948 the total Jewish population in the Land at that time was a bit more than 600,000 which was the key number mentioned by “Kol HaTor” about two hundred years beforehand. Reveals Secrets of the Torah “Kol HaTor” says [122] “And Pharoah called Joseph’s name Zaphenat Paneah” [i.e. Uncover of Secrets] (Genesis 41;45). One of the tasks of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in each generation is to reveal the secrets of the Torah. Horns of a Unicorn “Kol HaTor” says [131] “His horns are the horns of a unicorn with which he strikes the peoples” (Deuteronomy 33). The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. Comment: The horns of a unicorn are linked with the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. A unicorn is part of the symbol of Britain. Two unicorns appear on the Coat of Arms of Scotland. Many descendants of Joseph from Scotland migrated to North America. The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. “Amalek” represents the forces of Anti-Semitism.
BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem
ADAM ELIYAHU BERKOWITZ
BIBLICAL NEWS
NOVEMBER 10, 2016
3 MIN READ
The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.
Rabbi Hillel Weiss, spokesman for the Sanhedrin, contacted Breaking Israel News to announce that the election of Trump, who has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, coupled with Putin’s expressed desire for the Temple to be rebuilt, prompted the Jewish court to send a letter offering the two the opportunity to act as modern-day Cyrus figures: non-Jewish kings who recognize the importance of Israel and the Temple.
Cyrus the Great, King of Persia in the sixth century BCE, announced in the first year of his reign that he was prompted by God to make a decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt.
Thus saith Koresh king of Paras: All the kingdoms of the earth hath Hashem, the God of heaven, given me; and He hath charged me to build Him a house in Yerushalayim, which is in Yehuda. Ezra 1:2
Cyrus sent the Jews under his rule back to Israel with a considerable sum of money with which to rebuild the Temple. The Sanhedrin plans to call on the two world leaders to take up this ancient Biblical decree and support the Jewish people in their holy mission.
Rabbi Weiss explained that the US elections have made the eternal Jewish dream a very real possibility.
“We are poised to rebuild the Temple. The political conditions today, in which the two most important national leaders in the world support the Jewish right to Jerusalem as their spiritual inheritance, is historically unprecedented,” Rabbi Weiss told Breaking Israel News.
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BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem
The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.israel365news.com
I absolutely disagree about one not being able to trace their Ancestry back to a Group of People., via Historical Documents, Archeological Finds,DNA, as well as Scripture.
Perhaps in Your Vast Knowledge,.... You can show where Israel's Prophecy (Gen. 48concerning Ephraim, & Manasseh were fulfilled?
Sorry about Your "Difficulty",..... Myself, I found it easy to find Groups of people, who became World Powers, that could be traced back to the "House of Israel", especially One that became many Nations,It is difficult to pinpoint dogmatically when the prophecy of (Gen. 48) is to be fulfilled. It is future for Jacob we know. Because Jacobs blessing of the 12 tribes follows, and is based upon the 'last days', (Gen. 49:1), it could be in the 'last days'. But it may well be for the time when Christ returns and sets up the Kingdom of God upon the earth.
But, just as the prophecies in (Gen. 49) will be fulfilled, so will the prophecy in (Gen. 48). But as in (Gen. 49) also, today, we cannot identify the tribes of Israel to verify its fulfillment.
Quantrill
"Exactly, but for the purpose of Jewish Rabbi's in Israel being able to identify where Ephrayim and Menasseh have migrated would of course assist in their being able to locate the latter day Cyrus who may be the same person that they call "Moshiach ben Yosef?"
For example:
Caledonians from Gilead of Manasseh.
Dan and Don (of Ireland, Scotland, Wales) from Dan.
Parissi (of Yorkshire) from Peresh of Machir of Manasseh.
Simeni from Simeon.
Iceni from Yacin of Simeon (English east coast).
and many more.
See
"The Tribes".
http://britam.org/the-Tribes.html
| Britain as Ephraim Introduction Part A. Duration: 5.51 minutes |
The Lost Ten Tribes went to the West. The two tribes of Joseph, Ephraim and Manasseh went to the British Isles. With the formation of the USA most of Manasseh moved to America. Great Britain and offshoots from Britain represent Ephraim. Seven major Proofs identifying the British with Ephraim include: 1. The Blessing of Ephraim was to precede that of Manasseh in Time. 2. Relative Importance in Different Spheres. Ephraim Lowered himself. Modest. The Pre-eminence of Manasseh is Material. 3. Ephraim Was to Rule Over Other Nations. 4. "A COMPANY OF NATIONS" to be fulfilled in Ephraim. 5. Ephraim Represents the Aristocratic Principle. Nobility. 6. Ephraim Represents the "BULL". John Bull of England, "Land of the Bull-Calf". 7. Ephraim Takes on the Aspects of Joseph whereas Manasseh is closer to Jacob. Ephraim defeats Edom-Germany. |
| Britain as Ephraim Introduction Part B. Duration: 7.25 minutes |
The British Isles were populated by peoples who to a significant degree were descended from Israelites. Elements from the Tribes of Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh) were predominant in the British Isles. Joseph had been divided into two Tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh. It is agreed upon that the USA and Britain are separate nations. It is also accepted that in general the other nations who came out of Britain (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc) are closer to Britain than they are to the USA. Since Joseph was divided into separate tribes and since Prophecy indicates that they should be distinct from each other it is logical that the division between Ephraim and Manasseh is reflected in the distinction between Britain and here offshoots and the USA on the other. We consider the USA to be Manasseh and those of British association to be Ephraim. |
| Britain as Ephraim-1 Precedence in Time Duration: 12 minutes |
1st proof out of seven. Joseph had two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. The descendants of Joseph went to the British Isles. Britain and the offshoots of Britain are Ephraim and have the characteristics of Ephraim. Manasseh was to become great AFTER Ephraim. America was founded by the British and in a sense emerged from Britain. The USA is Manasseh and time-wise it did become great after Britain with the British Empire had enjoyed its power peak for quite some time. Britain preceded the USA therefore Britain is Ephraim. |

| Britain as Ephraim -2. Relative Self-Importance Duration: 13.23 minutes |
The British are Ephraim. The USA represents Manasseh. Ephraim and Manasseh were the two sons of Joseph. One of the 7 major proofs identifying the British with Ephraim is the relative importance of material wealth and power that was to be enjoyed by Manasseh as compared to Ephraim. The British also evidenced the quality of national self-abnegation for the sake of world good. This was a quality of Ephraim. Jacob said concerning Ephraim (vrs Manasseh), "truly his YOUNGER brother shall be GREATER than he, and his descendants shall become a MULTITUDE OF NATIONS (Genesis 48:19). The word used here for YOUNGER is HaKatan which can connote "made Little". The Commentators say Ephraim merited since not only was he the 'little' i.e. younger brother but he was prepared to 'belittle' himself. England agreed to allow the USA to direct the world and to take a back seat in exchange for American economic support in prosecuting World War-2. Churchill remarked that Britain gave away her Empire to save the world. |
The British Empire ...originated with the overseas colonies and trading posts established by England in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. At its height it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power.[1] By 1922 the British Empire held sway over about 458 million people, one-quarter of the world's population at the time,[2] and covered more than 33,700,000 km2 (13,012,000 sq mi), almost a quarter of the Earth's total land area.[3] As a result, its political, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. At the peak of its power, it was often said that "the sun never sets on the British Empire" because its span across the globe ensured that the sun was always shining on at least one of its numerous territories.
British Empire 1920
Source of Map http://opencourse.uoregon.edu /pub/phys361/The_British_ Empire_01.html |
| Britain as Ephraim -3. The British Empire. Duration: 30.16 minutes |
Ephraim was predicted to become in Hebrew 'Malao ha-Goyim' (Genesis 48:19) translated as 'A MULTITUDE OF NATIONS' but literally meaning 'fullness of the peoples' . Ephraim (according to Rabbinical Commentators) was to rule over the nations or literally determine the very existence of other nations. This was fulfilled through the British Empire. It is a proof that the British are Ephraim. The British Empire once ruled over about 25% of the world's population. Many nations that exist in the world today only came into being thanks to British rule and tutelage. |
Eben Shushan in his authoritative Hebrew dictionary ("HaMalon HaChadash", Jerusalem, 1979, in Hebrew) lists alternative meanings for the name "Ephrathi": "#`EPHRATHI 1. [derived from Eprath meaning Beth-lehem] a dweller of Ephrath: "Now David was the son of that Ephrathite of Beth lehem Judah, whose name was Jesse.." (1 Samuel 17:12). "`2. a member of the Tribe of Ephraim: "And Jeroboam the son of Nebat, an Ephrathite.." (1 Kings 11:26). "`3. [similised] aristocrat, honorable [so used due to the Tribe of Ephraim who were considered the greatest and most respected of Tribes]: "Every prince and great man that arose in Israel was given the name Ephrathi" (Pirkei de Rabbi Eliezer, 45). "For they were Ephrathites, dwellers of the land and considered of refined character and humility" (Haromi, 28 530) "You are the sons of great men, Ephrathites of high birth, sons of the high born" (Agnon..).'#" In Talmudic (e.g. Yalkut Shimeoni 1 Samuel a;77) and Rabbinical Literature (Radak on 1 Samuel 1;1) "Ephrathi" is taken to mean someone from the Tribe of Ephraim or of noble birth or both. Rabbi David Kimchi ("Radak" 1157 1236) quoted (in his Commentary on 1 Samuel 1;1) from much earlier sources concerning the meaning of "Ephrathi": ##"In the mountain of Ephraim may be exegetically explained as (hinting at) greatness and importance. "Ephrathi" said Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi means "Dweller of the Palace" [i.e. nobleman] and there are those [who explain Ephrathi to mean] an extremely great person living in holiness in Mount Ephraim. |
Arthur Bryant, "English Saga 1840-1940",
1940, Great Britain, pp. 256-259.
#The English working man…did not take readily to aggregate conceptions of himself… He did not want liberty as a member of a class: he wanted it as a man…His fists and his tongue were always quick to assert his independence.
#Not clearly understanding how he had been swindled out of his birthright – home, status, and privilege – he was yet aware of the dignity of his descent. He knew himself to be as good as any man, and better.
#…a nation of disinherited, cheery aristocrats…
# The downtrodden wage-slave did not think of himself as such but as the rightful inheritor – as by ancestry he was – of a free tradition of transmitted privilege. He only wanted to get back his own: to be the great gentleman he knew himself to be, enjoying, generous, and carefree.
Some Tribal Characteristics of Other Tribes. Each Israelite Group has its own characteristics that may be used for good or evil. An American looks for value in the positive or negative sense. America is named after "Machir" representing "Price or Selling". An American may relate more to what one is worth to him or to others or to society. A Jew will look for immediate benefit regardless of long-term consequence. Judah is more existential. This can take Judah to great heights or depths. Judah is prepared to worship the Almighty for the sake of it. Religious Jews know little (if anything) about heaven or hell. What bothers them is whether something is permitted or forbidden, on what should be done in the present. A Frenchman will often have a positive approach towards others but still looks for rigidity in relationships. Frenchmen are often very nice. They have a natural confidence in the innate worth of a fellow man rather than what he has earned, has. This is Reuben with the qualities of a "firstborn". He has however a certain rigidity of approach. Even when Reuben is a revolutionary he still attempts to switch one rigid system (with everything set in place) for another. Britain and British offshoots display the Aristocratic concept associated with Ephraim. |
Winston Churchill depicted as John Bull defying the Germans with members of the British Commonwealth and Empire backing him up. |
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One of several meanings of the name Ephraim is "He Made Me Like a Bull" (Hebrew "Hiphrani"). The symbol of Ephraim was a bull. Jeremiah (ch.3) nicknamed Ephraim "a young bull", in Hebrew an "aegel". The Angles who settled in Britain and who gave England (Angle-Land) its name were also known as "Aegl" meaning "Young Bull" in Hebrew. Also the Hebrew term for young bull "aegel" could alternatively have been pronounced as "Angle". The British are nick named "John Bull". According to the Bible they personify Ephraim. |
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From: Ephraim and Manessah | Who Is America?
Ephraim and Manessah
Ephraim and Manessah were the sons of Joseph and Asenath. Joseph married Asenath in Egypt. There is no evidence she was of Egyptian descent; the people who lived in the land of Egypt were of the tribe of Mizraim. Targum Pseudo-Jonathan states that Asenath was the daughter of Dinah, who was raped by Shechem (Gen. 34:1–3). According to legends, we believe she was the daughter of Potiphar. The legend tells she refused to marry Joseph because she was told he was a Canaanite. When she saw him she realized he was not and agreed to the marriage.
Name meaning
In Hebrew, Manasseh means, “to forget all your toil.” Ephraim means “to be fruitful”. Saxon means “dagger or short sword”. Angles means “bull”. We are told Joseph
is a fruitful bough, a fruitful bough by a spring; his branches run over the
wall. The archers fiercely attacked; they shot at him, and pressed him hard.
Yet his bow remained taut, and his arms were made agile by the hands of the
mighty one of Jacob, by the name of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel.
(Gen.49:22-24).
Meaning of the name Angles
In 410 AD the Anglo Saxons pushed into Britain. They were made up of two tribes — the Angles and the Saxons. England (Angle-land) was named after the Angles. Angle is another form for Aegel and aegel was a nickname for Ephraim. Aegel means young bull.
[Jeremiah 31:18] “I HAVE SURELY HEARD EPHRAIM BEMOANING HIMSELF THUS; THOU HAST CHASTISED ME, AND I WAS CHASTISED, AS A BULLOCK [Hebrew: AEGEL] UNACCUSTOMED TO THE YOKE: TURN THOU ME, AND I SHALL BE TURNED; FOR THOU ART THE LORD MY GOD.”
The Land Division
In ancient times, the tribe of Manasseh was itself divided into two half tribes — one located EAST of the Jordan river, in Palestine, and one WEST of the Jordan river, and just NORTH of the Tribe of Ephraim. Interestingly, in modern times this same geographic juxtaposition has been maintained by the descendants of these ancient tribes.
Where did Ephraim and Manasseh Go after Captivity?
They left the land of Israel and went to Scythia. Here is the proof.
God sent Jeremiah to the Northern tribes to give them a warning. Remenber the book of Jeremiah was written during the captivity of Judah. The Northern Tribes had already fallen and gone into captivity. At the time of the prophesy, they were in the North meaning they were north of Jerusalem, which would have been Europe. They were actually above the Black Sea.
Jer 3:12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.
Historical Proof:
1)Greek Historian Strabo –
“Of the portions thus divided, the first is inhabited in the region toward the north and the ocean by the Scythian nomads and wagon dwellers, and south of these by the Sarmatians.” (Strabo, XI, ii, 1 cited by (E. Raymond Capt, “Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets”, 1985, Artisan Sales, pg 170)
2)From Steven Collins,
“we saw evidence that Ephraim’s clans formed the backbone of the tribes which united to form the Parthian Empire, while one of the dominant tribes of the Sacae. Scythians was the Massagetae (Manasseh). Even as the term “House of Israel” included the rest of the tribes of Israel who remained associated with Ephraim and Manasseh, the term “Sacae” was also applied to the tribes of Israel which were led by Ephraim and Manasseh (Parthia and Scythia) while in Asia.
When the Scythians and Parthians migrated to Europe, the names “SAChse,” or “Saxons,” (“Saac’s sons“) remained upon them as they settled in the British Isles, but this name also remained on some related tribes who stayed on the mainland (i.e. “Saxony” in Germany and “Alsace” in France).
3) “The Saxons were descended from the ancient Sacae of Asia, and that in process of time they came to be called Saxons.” (Frederick Haberman, “Tracing our Ancestors”, 1930s, pg 130)
4) Pliny – “The name of the Scythians is everywhere changed to that of Germans, and his old designation has not been continued for any except the most outlying sections of this nation who live almost unknown to the rest of mankind (Pliny, IV, xii, cited by E. Raymond Capt, “Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets”, 1985, Artisan Sales, pg 170)
5) Plutarch – “They were called at first Cimmerians and then, not inappropriately, Cimbri.” (Plutarch, cited by E. Raymond Capt, “Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets”, 1985, Artisan Sales, pg 141)
They migrated from Scythia to Germany and Scandianavia. In the first century they were known as the Suebi. They actually occupied half of the territory of Germany. Suebi meaning “one’s own” people. Strabo wrote that the Suebi “excel all the others in power and numbers.”[19] He describes Suebic peoples (Greek ethnē) as having come to dominate Germany between the Rhine and Elbe, with the exception of the Rhine valley, on the frontier with the Roman empire, and the “coastal” regions north of the Rhine.
They origined from the islands near Norway and settled in the northern Germany near the Baltic Sea called Schleswig. In the Ohthere of Hålogaland’s account, a Norwegian account, tells of a two-day voyage from the Oslo fjord to Schleswig. In the historian account from Alfred the Great, the Angles came from the Islands near Norway. Alfred states “on these islands dwelt the Engle before they came hither”.<u><strong>[4</strong></u>
History of Bede, after the fall of Rome, the Angles split up and founded the kingdoms of the Nord Angelnen Northumbria, which is eastern England.
Wikipedia Angles,
“Bede states that the Anglii, before coming to Great Britain, dwelt in a land called Angulus, “which lies between the province of the Jutes and the Saxons, and remains unpopulated to this day.”
Similar evidence is given by the Historia Brittonum. King Alfred the Great and the chronicler Æthelweard identified this place with the district that is now called Angeln, in the province of Schleswig.
“The Angles (common etymology with Anglo, in Anglo-Saxon, and Angleterre—the French name for England) settled in the eastern Anglia counties such as Norfolk and Suffolk. The Saxons settled the rest of England and pushed the original Britons further west in England. By far the heaviest concentration of people who migrated to America from England came from the Anglia counties where the Angles had settled. …Oddly enough the Angles, whose descendants comprise much of America’s Anglo population, gave their name to England which means “Angle-land.” The word Angle is probably derived from the Hebrew word “Eglah” meaning “Heifer of the wild ox or unicorn,” which is one of the animals on the British coat of arms. Instead, England is primarily Saxon and Anglo-Americans are descendants of the Angles” (White, C. M., In Search of…the Origin of Nations: History Research Projects, 2003, p. 394).
Symbols of Joseph
Deuteronomy 33: 17 ” His glory is like the firstling of his BULL, and his horns, are like the horn of a Unicorn with them he shall push the people together unto the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.”
Manessah uses the symbol of the Unicorn. According to the MIDRASH” A UNICORN (Raem) was represented on the STANDARD OF MANASSEH son of Joseph, (Yair Davidy, The Tribes, p.220, second edition, Russell-Davis Publishers, Israel, 1999). The Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom, or Great Britain, there is a lion, and a unicorn standing on its hind feet. Today, Manasseh — represented by England (east of the body of water we call the Atlantic Ocean), and Canada (west of that body of water) — still lies NORTH of Ephraim, the United States of America! In ancient times, the tribe of Manasseh was itself divided into two half tribes — one located EAST of the Jordan river, in Palestine, and one WEST of the Jordan river, and just NORTH of the Tribe of Ephraim. Interestingly, in modern times this same geographic position has been maintained by the descendants of these ancient tribes. Today, Manasseh — represented by England (east of the body of water we call the Atlantic Ocean), and Canada (west of that body of water) — still lies NORTH of Ephraim, the United States of America!
Ephraim was a Bull. In Deuteronomy 33:17 a firstborn bull is followed by a wild ox [actually in Hebrew Raem i.e. unicorn]. America uses the symbol of the Bull. Wall Street has a symbol of a large Bull. Many of the coat of Arms for the states has a bull on it.
Ephraim is the 13th tribe
Ephraim was the 13th tribe because he was born after his brother Manessah. He was born last to Joseph in Egypt, after Manasseh, the 12th tribe. The US flag has 13 stripes, the US originally had 13 colonies, in the US seal we find 13 stars above an eagle, also 13 arrows clutched in his left claw, and an olive branch with 13 leaves in its right claw, with a shield of 13 red and white stripes. The number 13 is associated with Ephraim and with America! Ephraims symbols were an Olive Branch, while his second symbol is a Bundle of Arrows. The first will be last and the last will be first!
Further Proof:
Ephraim is always associated with the West. Ephraim would pitch his camp in the West with Manasseh and Benjamin. Num 2:18-22.
Num 2:18 On the west side shall be the standard of the camp of Ephraim according to their armies.
When you read Ezekiel chapter one. You notice that the image has four faces — face of a m an, face of a lion, face of a Ox and face of a Eagle. These faces represent the four tribes lead by Reuben, Judah, Ephraim and Dan. Reuben’s symbol was a man, Judah’s symbol was a Lion, Ephraim’s symbol was a Ox, and Dan’s symbol was a Eagle. You will also notice that the Ox is on the left side of the camp which is the West.
Eze_1:10 As for the likenessH1823 of their faces,H6440 they fourH702 had the faceH6440 of a man,H120 and the faceH6440 of a lion,H738 onH413 the right side:H3225 and they fourH702 had the faceH6440 of an ox<strong>H7794</strong> on the left side;H4480 H8040 they fourH702 also had the faceH6440 of an eagle.H5404
Ephraim was to go to the North which is Europe and the West which is Great Britain and America.
Isa 49:12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.
Isa 49:20 The childrenH1121 which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other,H7923 shall sayH559 againH5750 in thine ears,H241 The placeH4725 is too straitH6862 for me: give placeH5066 to me that I may dwell.H3427Isa 49:21 Then shalt thou sayH559 in thine heart,H3824 WhoH4310 hath begottenH3205 me(H853) these,H428 seeing IH589 have lost my children,H7909 and am desolate,H1565 a captive,H1540 and removing to and fro?H5493 and whoH4310 hath brought upH1431 these?H428 Behold,H2005 IH589 was leftH7604 alone;H905 these,H428 whereH375 had theyH1992 been?
THEY WILL PUSH WEST
Both Ephraim and Manessah pushed westward. Mannessah pushed western to Great Britain and Ephraim to America. Notice that Ephraim was to follow the East wind. The East Wind moves West.
Hosea 12:1 prophesies: “Ephraim…followeth after an eastwind…they do make a covenant with the Assyrians.
Through Moses, God prophesied that Joseph would “push the peoples to the end of the earth” (Deuteronomy 33:17). Rallying to the cry of “manifest destiny,” the Americans did what Israelites have been doing for centuries: They moved west. “Go West young man Go West”.
Deu 33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth
Further Proof:
America out numbers Britain. American population is 250 Million compared to Britain which is 57 Million. “ and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Menasseh.” Deut 33:17
America was to be a land of Refuge
Our forefathers understood that America was a land of Refuge for the Christian people. So the eagle on the American Symbol represents the eagle in Rev 12:14. The eagle symbolizes a place of safety from the persecution that was going on in Europe and Britain at that time.
Deu_32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:
Purpose of Ephraim
[Isaiah 49:6]
“AND HE SAID, IT IS A LIGHT THING THAT THOU SHOULDEST BE MY
SERVANT TO RAISE UP THE TRIBES OF JACOB, AND TO RESTORE THE PRESERVED OF ISRAEL: I WILL ALSO GIVE THEE FOR A LIGHT TO THE GENTILES, THAT THOU MAYEST BE MY SALVATION UNTO THE END OF THE EARTH.”
The Lost Ten Tribes are linked with the Ends of the earth (Genesis 33:13, Isaiah 41:8,9,13).
The Northern Tribes are lead by Ephraim
Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Characteristics of the tribe
1) WINE-DRINKING:
It was claimed that Ephraim was to become a people who drank too much WINE (Isa.28:1). Wine is produced in abundance in the US, California, Oregon, etc. The British are not known as wine-bibbers, but their drink of choice is BEER — a completely different beverage. This again points to the US being Ephraim, in the majority.
2) It was claimed that: Ephraim was prophesied to become “joined to idols” (Hos.4:17). Idols abound in modern USA.
3) It was claimed that: Ephraim was to be a “mixed” people. God said “Ephraim has MIXED himself among the peoples; Ephraim is a cake unturned [burnt on one side, white on the other]. Aliens have devoured his strength, but he does not know it” (Hos.7:8-9).
Hos 7:8 Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.
Hos 7:9 Strangers (Aliens) have devoured his strength, and he knoweth it not: yea, gray hairs are here and there upon him, yet he knoweth not.
They began mixing early in their history in the land of Israel. In Judges 1:29 Ephraim did not drive out the Canaanites who lived in Gezer, so the Canaanites lived in Gezer among them.
3) Their pride continually got them in trouble. They showed their pride, jealously, and self-centeredness when Jephthah chose to fight (and defeat) the Ammonites without the aid of the proud Ephraim warriors. A civil war erupted resulting in 42,000 warriors from Ephraim being killed.
4) He also condemned “Israel”, meaning the Ten Tribes, “because they sold the righteous for silver” (Amos 1; 4-6).
Punishment Lifted
Israel’s punishment was seven years for every year they did not let the land rest. Israel’s punishment was 360 X 7 = 2520 years in fulfillment. If we count 2520 years from 718-721, we come to A.D. 1800-1803. America received the Louisiana Purchase in 1803. Her wealth and blessings took off from that point in history.
Ephraim in Prophecy
Ephraim will destroy Esau. Obadiah says that the House of Joseph shall destroy the House of Esau.
Obadiah 1:18 “AND THE HOUSE OF JACOB SHALL BE A FIRE, AND THE HOUSE OF JOSEPH A FLAME, AND THE HOUSE OF ESAU FOR STUBBLE AND THEY SHALL KINDLE IN THEM, AND DEVOUR THEM; AND THERE SHALL NOT BE ANY REMAINING OF THE HOUSE OF ESAU; FOR THE LORD HATH SPOKEN IT.”
Hosea 12:1 prophesies: “Ephraim…followeth after an eastwind…they do make a covenant with the Assyrians.” A “covenant” is an agreement or alliance. Since Israel and Assyria were never allies in ancient biblical days, this argues for a latter-day fulfillment. Is Ephraim allied to modern Assyria? Yes. Assyria settled in the land of Germany. The British and Americans have made numerous “covenants” with Germany via NATO, the European Union, etc. Hosea 14:3 adds that a time will come when Ephraim will realize it should have relied on God instead of its covenant with Assyria. It prophesies Ephraim will say: “Asshur will not save us,” indicating it learns that security comes from God, not its alliances with other nations such as Assyria.
Isaiah 27:12-13 prophesies that: “in that day…you shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel…the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem.”
Proof Scotland is Judah
It was prophesied that Ephraim and Manasseh would go to war against Judah. This has happened many times. The Milesians who settled Ireland were a tribe of Judah. We know the Irish people moved into the land of Scotland. For further proof see our teaching on the Trojan Kings. Ephraim and Manasseh both lived in the land of Britain and for many centuries went to war with Scotland. Also many of the Scottish Irish people moved to America and settled in the Mountains of Tennessee. The American Civil War was a war between Ephraim in the north and Judah in the South!!
Isa_9:21 Manasseh, Ephraim; and Ephraim, Manasseh: and they together shall be against Judah. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Sorry about Your "Difficulty",..... Myself, I found it easy to find Groups of people, who became World Powers, that could be traced back to the "House of Israel", especially One that became many Nations,
And I absolutely disagree that Yacob's Blessing upon Manasseh, & Ephraim, was contingent upon "The Last Days".
Gen 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
Gen 49:22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
Gen 49:23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
Gen 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel
Gen 49:25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
Gen 49:26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
Now this is what I call funny?
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And on that note:
If ten million Israelis will vote in favour of offering President Donald J. Trump the TITLE of "Cyrus" or perhaps "Moshiach ben Yosef - Messiah son of Joseph," should he accept their offer for February of 2029?
In one way this would be safer for the USA than if President Donald J. Trump were to campaign for a Third Term with the legal assistance of Mr. Alan Dershowitz.
In one way, this could be used to set in motion a series of events that could lead to the fulfillment of a prediction made by the gifted Mark Taylor in 2011, [four years before Mr. Donald J. Trump offered to campaign for...
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If You wish to think of the last couple of hundred years as the "Last Days", then I'll agree.Except that is what it says. (Gen. 49:1) "And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together that I may tell you which shall befall you in the last days."
I have no difficulty.
Quantrill
If You wish to think of the last couple of hundred years as the "Last Days", then I'll agree.
But if You are trying to say that the "Blessings are to be bestowed upon Ephraim, & Manasseh during the "Time of Yacob's Trouble"/ "The Tribulation",Then You Truly have a Major misunderstanding of the Prophecies concerning Ephraim & Manasseh Quantril.
The Tribulation period precedes the Millennial period. The Millennial period is where the blessings are enjoyed. It only precedes the Tribulation by 7 years. Look at (Isaiah 2:1-5) where 'last days' of Israel speaks to the Millennial reign of Christ "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.....and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."
Daniel is given revelation as to what shall happen to Israel in the latter days. The term 'latter days' when addressed to Israel, appears to speak of the Tribulation period. Where as 'last days' speak to the blessings of the Kingdom or Millennial reign. (Dan. 10:14) "Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days."
(Dan. 12:1) "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."
We know this speaks to the future Tribulation period. (Matt. 24:21) "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."
(Deut. 4:30) "When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;"
In (Rev. 7:4) 12 tribes of Israel are listed. Twelve thousand from each tribe making up the 144,000. Manasses is listed. (7:6) Epharaim is not. Dan is not. And Joseph is. (7:8) Thus Joseph must replace Ephraim, and be the tribe of Ephraim, as those of Manasses would not make up the tribe of Joseph as it is already listed.
Quantrill
Quantril,..... Do You Think that Zebra is incapable of asking any further questions? Has Zebra given You "Power of Attorney", where You now speak for Zebra?So what? That doesn't answer Zebra's question.
Your topic indicates Ephraim and Manasseh are England and America. Yet you don't address it. Why?
Quantrill
"A Jew/Israelite today cannot trace his genealogy back to his tribe"Because the tribes of Israel are not lost. They are scattered. And all 12 are scattered. (James 1:1) "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."
A Jew/Israelite today cannot trace his genealogy back to his tribe. Perhaps through their family name they can assume the tribe they came from, but even that is questionable.
That Jews/Israelites are found all over the world is proof of their being scattered. Not proof they formed the nation of England and America.
And, God's purpose for them being scattered was judgement. It was not to bless them to become a thriving nation elsewhere.
Quantrill
Indeed Asher, and I Believe that the "Temple Institute" in Yisreal is one source that will confirm that.There is a specific DNA marker for the Cohanim, part of Levi.