Erasing The Past

[PoliticalChic]

The Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, and America-hating Leftists continue to try to sell the argument that America is an evil country that must be destroyed, that we are DEFINED by our past, by our mistakes, and by our 'sins' while completelyrefusing to look at the good / the acts / the accomlishments that have contributed to the United States being the greratest nation in the world.

As Christians we know that we are NOT defined by our past / the 'sins' of our past. Jesus Christ washed those away when he died on the cross for us. Despite being creatures of sinful nature - farfrom perfect, we are a new creation, and we are called to be better.

Social Justice Is a Christian Tradition — Not a Liberal Agenda

It is so amusing when atheistic communists turn to the Bible for support.

See previous reply.

One more coward who runs from this simple question.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. The KKK was formed December 24, 1865 under the auspices of Democrat Nathan Bradford Forrest.

“Forrest’s postwar business career was not as lucrative as his antebellum ventures. He had exhausted his fortune during the war, and with the abolition of slavery he lost one of his most valuable avenues for making money.” Nathan Bedford Forrest - Postwar life and the Ku Klux Klan



The Hollywood Democrats laugh at black Americans….case in point: the winner of six awards, “Forrest Gump,” in which the lead character was named after the creator of the KKK.

“Nathan Bedford Forrest
His mother named Forrest after their ancestor Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Scotch-Irish American and a noted Confederate general in the American Civil War and the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.” Forrest Gump (character) - Wikipedia





And never forget, Democrat Franklin Roosevelt’s first Supreme Court nominee was KKKer Hugo Black.

"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"



The Klan was and is the legacy of the Democrat Party. Today they call in ANTIFA.



Even a surgeon with the skill of a Ben Carson could not separate the Democrat Party from the KKK.

 

[IM2]

Many of our heralded founding fathers owned slaves. Out of the 55 so-called founders, 26 owned slaves and one owned a slave ship. The slave owners were:

Richard Bassett (DE), Jacob Broom (DE), John Dickinson (DE), George Read (DE),William Houstoun (GA), William Few (GA), William Samuel Johnson (CT), Daniel Carroll (MD), Luther Martin (MD), John Francis Mercer (MD), Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer (MD), William Livingston (NJ), William Blount (NC), William Richardson Davie (NC), Alexander Martin (NC), Richard Dobbs Spaight (NC), Pierce Butler (SC), Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (SC), Charles Pinckney (SC), John Rutledge (SC), John Blair (VA), James Madison (VA), George Mason (VA), Edmund Randolph (VA), George Washington (VA), George Wythe (VA), Robert Morris (PA)*.

*Robert Morris owned a slave ship. So while he didn’t own slave, he was a prime participant in the industry.

We are on President number 45 as of this writing. Out of these 45 presidents, it is a fact that 12 of them owned slaves. That’s more than ONE FOURTH of our presidents. Ten of the twelve owned slaves while in office. While many want to make this so clean and easy, I am not going to do that. It must be understood that presidents of this country conducted the business of slavery in the white house. They owned slaves in the white house. They beat their slaves in the white house. They bought and sold slaves from the white house. The ten slave owners while in the white house were:

Our nations “father” George Washington owned over 300 slaves. Thomas Jefferson owned 600 slaves. His slave mistress even had children by him. Think about that each time you see a black person with the last name Jefferson. James Madison owned more than 100 slaves. James Monroe owned 75 slaves. Andrew Jackson owned 200 slaves. Martin Van Buren owned 1 slave. I guess he would be considered a nice and humane slave owner. After all, he could have owned 600. William Henry Harrison owned 11 slaves. John Tyler owned 70 slaves. James K. Polk owned 25 slaves. Zachary Taylor owned about 150 slaves. These 10 men owned slaves as duly elected presidents of the United States. This is a hard truth of the American past that MUST be faced.

This is not about holding anyone from the past to modern standards. I bristle when I hear this, especially after I must hear about how great the founders were. They are being held to the standards they put on parchment themselves. As for the,” I wasn’t alive then” excuse, none of these men are here today, if we cannot hold them accountable for their racism then why can we credit them? Is there anyone here today who was around for the revolutionary war?

...and? How does this affect you today?

Sorry but that tired line is dead. These are founding fathers and presidents, people who created the very concepts we live by today. What we see is a bunch of men who did not live by what they wrote on parchment.

 

[IM2]

6. The KKK was formed December 24, 1865 under the auspices of Democrat Nathan Bradford Forrest.

“Forrest’s postwar business career was not as lucrative as his antebellum ventures. He had exhausted his fortune during the war, and with the abolition of slavery he lost one of his most valuable avenues for making money.” Nathan Bedford Forrest - Postwar life and the Ku Klux Klan



The Hollywood Democrats laugh at black Americans….case in point: the winner of six awards, “Forrest Gump,” in which the lead character was named after the creator of the KKK.

“Nathan Bedford Forrest
His mother named Forrest after their ancestor Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Scotch-Irish American and a noted Confederate general in the American Civil War and the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.” Forrest Gump (character) - Wikipedia





And never forget, Democrat Franklin Roosevelt’s first Supreme Court nominee was KKKer Hugo Black.

"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"



The Klan was and is the legacy of the Democrat Party. Today they call in ANTIFA.



Even a surgeon with the skill of a Ben Carson could not separate the Democrat Party from the KKK.

Wrong. Republicans and democrats have been complicit.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.



1.In so many ways, George Orwell foretold what we have been witnessing: ‘1984’ is the current Democrat control of society. Removing the statues, all of which are of Democrats, is just one aspect.
In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'."
Winston Smith s role in 1984



2. And that is exactly what is taking place: the Left is re-writing history in their image. They call them ‘fact checkers,’ but they are no more than one of the arms of the octopus called the International Left, or, in America, the Democrat Party.

“Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War” Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War

Here’s the ‘new truth,’ very different from the ‘real truth.”

The Democrats of the Confederacy didn’t start the Civil War.

The KKK was not the military arm of the Democrat Party.

The Democrats did not fight to preserve slavery.

The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.



The real truth was “rated false by PolitiFact and the Associated Press in October 2018…. historians say the party is not to blame.” Ibid.




And every one of the Democrat controlled disseminators of information follows the party line.

USA TODAY, "'You have to keep at it': What Black Lives Matter demonstrators can learn from civil rights protests of the past"

Princeton University Edwards Professor of American History Tera Hunter

NPR, "The Original Blexit"

YouTube, "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah"

PolitiFact, "No, the Democratic Party didn’t create the Ku Klux Klan"

Associated Press, "Ku Klux Klan not founded by the Democratic Party"

History.com, "Republican Party Founded"

Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator Jon Grinspan

Khan Academy, "The First KKK"

Encyclopedia Britannica, "Ku Klux Klan"

These, and Comedy Central, are the sources of information for the savages who are taking over this country.



Can you see why I’m a pessimist about our future?

How can you erase the past when most of these dummies have no idea what even happened???? You're erasing something you didn't even know????....................So mind boggling.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

Many of our heralded founding fathers owned slaves. Out of the 55 so-called founders, 26 owned slaves and one owned a slave ship. The slave owners were:

Richard Bassett (DE), Jacob Broom (DE), John Dickinson (DE), George Read (DE),William Houstoun (GA), William Few (GA), William Samuel Johnson (CT), Daniel Carroll (MD), Luther Martin (MD), John Francis Mercer (MD), Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer (MD), William Livingston (NJ), William Blount (NC), William Richardson Davie (NC), Alexander Martin (NC), Richard Dobbs Spaight (NC), Pierce Butler (SC), Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (SC), Charles Pinckney (SC), John Rutledge (SC), John Blair (VA), James Madison (VA), George Mason (VA), Edmund Randolph (VA), George Washington (VA), George Wythe (VA), Robert Morris (PA)*.

*Robert Morris owned a slave ship. So while he didn’t own slave, he was a prime participant in the industry.

We are on President number 45 as of this writing. Out of these 45 presidents, it is a fact that 12 of them owned slaves. That’s more than ONE FOURTH of our presidents. Ten of the twelve owned slaves while in office. While many want to make this so clean and easy, I am not going to do that. It must be understood that presidents of this country conducted the business of slavery in the white house. They owned slaves in the white house. They beat their slaves in the white house. They bought and sold slaves from the white house. The ten slave owners while in the white house were:

Our nations “father” George Washington owned over 300 slaves. Thomas Jefferson owned 600 slaves. His slave mistress even had children by him. Think about that each time you see a black person with the last name Jefferson. James Madison owned more than 100 slaves. James Monroe owned 75 slaves. Andrew Jackson owned 200 slaves. Martin Van Buren owned 1 slave. I guess he would be considered a nice and humane slave owner. After all, he could have owned 600. William Henry Harrison owned 11 slaves. John Tyler owned 70 slaves. James K. Polk owned 25 slaves. Zachary Taylor owned about 150 slaves. These 10 men owned slaves as duly elected presidents of the United States. This is a hard truth of the American past that MUST be faced.

This is not about holding anyone from the past to modern standards. I bristle when I hear this, especially after I must hear about how great the founders were. They are being held to the standards they put on parchment themselves. As for the,” I wasn’t alive then” excuse, none of these men are here today, if we cannot hold them accountable for their racism then why can we credit them? Is there anyone here today who was around for the revolutionary war?

...and? How does this affect you today?

Sorry but that tired line is dead. These are founding fathers and presidents, people who created the very concepts we live by today. What we see is a bunch of men who did not live by what they wrote on parchment.

Well like my father said to me..............You don't like it here, go live somewhere else.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

No longer honoring those who fought for slavery is not erasing the past. It's simply no longer honoring them.

.....by erasing the past.

There! I finished your simpleton's "logic" for you.

Regardless of what one thinks of Confederate era statues there is an orderly legal way to remove these statues.
And it's not to gather an angry crowd and remove these historical relics by mob rule.

You can take your rule by mob and go to hell!

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. The KKK was formed December 24, 1865 under the auspices of Democrat Nathan Bradford Forrest.

“Forrest’s postwar business career was not as lucrative as his antebellum ventures. He had exhausted his fortune during the war, and with the abolition of slavery he lost one of his most valuable avenues for making money.” Nathan Bedford Forrest - Postwar life and the Ku Klux Klan



The Hollywood Democrats laugh at black Americans….case in point: the winner of six awards, “Forrest Gump,” in which the lead character was named after the creator of the KKK.

“Nathan Bedford Forrest
His mother named Forrest after their ancestor Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Scotch-Irish American and a noted Confederate general in the American Civil War and the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.” Forrest Gump (character) - Wikipedia





And never forget, Democrat Franklin Roosevelt’s first Supreme Court nominee was KKKer Hugo Black.

"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"



The Klan was and is the legacy of the Democrat Party. Today they call in ANTIFA.



Even a surgeon with the skill of a Ben Carson could not separate the Democrat Party from the KKK.

Wrong. Republicans and democrats have been complicit.

I'm never wrong......you prove that with metronomic regularity.


You saw me spank you pretty well about Goldwater, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. Let’s begin destroying the lies with this one, that the Democrat South didn’t start the war.

Are you sure you want to go down this route? Most other Trump traitors revise history to claim that the peaceful south was invaded for no reason by the north. Are you really willing to go against cult dogma?

I agree that It really isn't debatable that the south started the fighting. Even before Ft. Sumter, they violently attacked a bunch of federal arsenals all around the south. And the south was the first side to raise an army. The Union didn't raise an army until after the Confederacy did.

Anyways, since the old southern Democrats are now Republicans, the rest of your piece condemns modern Republicans.

OK.....time to put you in your place.....last seat in the dumb row.


7. Now, how about that Democrat self-serving lie that the two parties ‘switched’ in the middle of the 20th century?

Yup…..a total lie.
Some of the Left's lies are so transparent that it is hard to imagine any but the most committed simpletons believing them.
Yet they do....or claim they do.



Like this: "Well...yeah, everyone knows that early Democrats were the party of slavers...but then...around the 1960s the two parties flip-flopped their positions on slavery, segregation and black people....and it is the Republicans who decided to become the racists!!!

Yup.....that's it!"

(I left out all the 'duh's' that would be appropriate for said dialogue.)



Since their acolytes cannot deny that that the inception of the Republican Party was motivated by a hatred of slavery and segregation, while the Democrats were the party of Jim Crow laws and the KKK, they claim that circa 1960, while the Democrats suddenly had an epiphany, and saw the error of their ways.....the Republicans suddenly developed a hatred of blacks and a desire for segregation.

Yes....many of the dimwits actually claim that.

Hard to imagine that they believe it...but they claim it.



USAToday:
“The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.”




The pretense is eminently simple to disprove.

Ask a Leftist, Democrat supporter what the chances are that, after a lifetime of believing as he does, arguing DNC talking points, reading the NYTimes, and watching MSNBC, being indoctrinated...er, 'taught' in government schools, and watching Comedy Central for his news.....
.....what he thinks the chances would be that he woke up tomorrow praising Donald Trump's election and presidency, and voting Republican.

And that calculation represents the same chance that Republicans and conservatives, who formed a party to fight Democrats and slavery, suddenly decided to become racists.

 

[JoeB131]

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People unable to actually address a topic generally turn to name calling.

There's no topic to discuss, Carmen....

Much like with cancer, 'racism' is a multi-BILLION dollar a year (or more) 'INDUSTRY'. Imagine the repercussions if we were abe to 'eradicate the world' of 'Racism' overnight.

Organizations like the NAACP would have noreason to exist...and that is a LOT of money.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and others would finally have to get legitimate jobs.

Politicians would lose their #1 tool theyuse to divide, intimidate, manipulate, raise money off of, use as a weapon to take down anyone who disagrees withtheir agenda even if for legitimate reasons, etc....

It would truly be disastrous for Democrats / Leftists / true racists

Not to worry, as long as we have bigots like you, there will always be work to be done.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm never wrong......you prove that with metronomic regularity.


You saw me spank you pretty well about Goldwater, huh?

The only people you spank are your clients at the Massage Parlor.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Government school is the worst part, controlled by the Left, and foisted upon unknowing children.
And then the lying media takes over.
I've exposed the Democrat lies in the USAToday 'fact checking' piece of propaganda.



8. Let's go over the methodology.
Now, the scam from those ‘fact checkers’ is the same one they use to pretend that Trump told thousands of lies (everyone knows that Obama was the most prodigious liar ever to infect the White House).

They find the tiniest slip in a much more significant story, and claim ‘mostly false,’ and that sort of thing…..like this one, where Byrd was “Exalted Cyclops” rather than Grand Wizard.



Watch how it’s done.





“The claim: Joe Biden and a grand wizard of the KKK were photographed together

A photo circulating on Facebook and Instagram claims to depict former Vice President Joe Biden with a grand wizard of the KKK.

“Biden with Grand wizard Of KKK. So who again is playing you, lying to you, using you for the votes, Creators of the KKK, opposed civil right of blacks. Yup that’s the Democratic party,” the text above the image reads.

The image, posted to Facebook on June 27, 2019, but garnering attention anew online shows Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, holding hands with then-Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., who is circled in red as the alleged KKK grand wizard.”
Fact check: Photo shows Biden with Byrd, who once had ties to KKK, but wasn't a grand wizard



That’s what they want you to read.

Seven paragraphs later…

“When he involved enough people to start a klavern, a unanimous vote among the recruits named him “Exalted Cyclops” of their group, which is the highest-ranking position in a chapter.”

“Our ruling: Partly false”



The word 'false' is what they want you to remember.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm never wrong......you prove that with metronomic regularity.


You saw me spank you pretty well about Goldwater, huh?

The only people you spank are your clients at the Massage Parlor.

You are a disgusting, gross, little creep.

And, you will always be so.

 

[JoeB131]

You are a disgusting, gross, little creep.

And, you will always be so.

It's always fun to take the self-important down a peg or two.

 

[easyt65]

Much like with cancer, 'racism' is a multi-BILLION dollar a year (or more) 'INDUSTRY'. Imagine the repercussions if we were abe to 'eradicate the world' of 'Racism' overnight.

Organizations like the NAACP would have noreason to exist...and that is a LOT of money.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and others would finally have to get legitimate jobs.

Politicians would lose their #1 tool theyuse to divide, intimidate, manipulate, raise money off of, use as a weapon to take down anyone who disagrees withtheir agenda even if for legitimate reasons, etc....

It would truly be disastrous for Democrats / Leftists / true racists

Not to worry, as long as we have bigots like you, there will always be work to be done.

I am sorry the truth offends you so much, little snowflake. If you think 'racism' is not also a money-making industry in the US you are either naïve, in denial, or being intentionally false.

The Democrats use 'racism' / the word 'racist' as both 'sword' to attack someone into silence and 'shield' to defend themselves from criticism.

Jesse Jackson's 'Rainbow Coalition-Baby' shakedown scandal is well known and well documented - Jackson threatened to declare a business to be racist unless they paid him money not to do so.

Decades ago when a back female accused white policemen of rape, racist ambulance chaser Al Sharpton charged in, declared he was defending her, and he later 'produced evidence' against the police. Unfortunately for Sharpton, the girl was admitting she lied about the whole thing as he was presenting the bogus 'evidence'. As soon as he heard he skipped town. The police chief refused to press charges because 'the community had been through enough and needed time to heal, not more drama / division'.

 

[berg80]

Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.

That's one of the most pathetic rationalizations I've seen for allowing the symbols of oppression to remain in the public square.

Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'

President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.

www.npr.org

 

[berg80]

I'm never wrong

Right, only when you type.

 

[basquebromance]

if Biden wins your taxes are going up, and Mt Rushmore is going down!

 

[WillPower]

No longer honoring those who fought for slavery is not erasing the past. It's simply no longer honoring them.

So the South is supposed to live lives of hopeless desperation because less than one percent of them were engaged in slavery? They weren't fighting the Civil War to keep slavery....they fought for their homeland and to repel the Yankee invaders. They lost but they can still have pride they took on the mighty North with all it's advantages in wealth, industry, and manpower and damn near won that war. Leave them be and leave their legacy of heroism and gallantry be too. I'm a northerner but my great granddaddy was a surgeon in the Confederate Army so I see both sides.

 

[berg80]

if Biden wins your taxes are going up, and Mt Rushmore is going down!

Did you think we were going to be able to sustain the Trump plan, trillion dollar deficits, forever?