Erasing The Past

[pknopp]

No longer honoring those who fought for slavery is not erasing the past. It's simply no longer honoring them.

So the South is supposed to live lives of hopeless desperation because less than one percent of them were engaged in slavery? They weren't fighting the Civil War to keep slavery....they fought for their homeland and to repel the Yankee invaders. They lost but they can still have pride they took on the mighty North with all it's advantages in wealth, industry, and manpower and damn near won that war. Leave them be and leave their legacy of heroism and gallantry be too. I'm a northerner but my great granddaddy was a surgeon in the Confederate Army so I see both sides.

What people do or don't do have nothing to do with what I said.

 

[pknopp]

No longer honoring those who fought for slavery is not erasing the past. It's simply no longer honoring them.

So the South is supposed to live lives of hopeless desperation because less than one percent of them were engaged in slavery? They weren't fighting the Civil War to keep slavery....they fought for their homeland and to repel the Yankee invaders. They lost but they can still have pride they took on the mighty North with all it's advantages in wealth, industry, and manpower and damn near won that war. Leave them be and leave their legacy of heroism and gallantry be too. I'm a northerner but my great granddaddy was a surgeon in the Confederate Army so I see both sides.

Whatever people do or don't do has nothing to do with what I said. There is no justification for honoring people who fought to keep slavery legal.

Period.

 

[easyt65]

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

then you must not be able to accept the fact that Democrats are not racist as well, because there is so much evidence that they are / have been.

Slavery
Civil War
Jim Crowe
Segregation
'Economic Slavery'

Biden has promised to rip 'systematic racism out by the roots'.....yet the proven racist has been in politics for decades and has made little effort to do so, let alone acted to do so - another promise not meant, one meant to mislead and appease.

Democrats have declared themselves to be the 'champions of blacks' yet have done / accomplished nothing for them for DECADES. Users, manipulators, etc...champions for'? No.

President Trump delivered / did more for blacks in 3 years than Barry did in 8, more than Democrats have done over decades.

Actions not words....the Democrats have been all mouth / words for DECADES with no proven intention of ever following through.....


.

 

[PoliticalChic]

People who seek to tear things down focus on nothing but the negative, ignores everything (facts) that undermines their agenda, and fans ther flames of division - inciting, intimidating, and drvoing others to focus on what DIVIDES us, not what UNITES us.

As the saying goes, 'UNITED we stand, and...' - as our enemies from without and end are counting on - 'DIVIDED WE FALL'.


.

Why is it wrong to address what divides us?

No Liberal ever....EVER....wants to 'address' the question.

Watch how I leave you speechless:

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

View attachment 360051

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

You appear able to answer the question.....but something prevents you from doing so.

Why is that?



If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

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Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com




Are you certain you don't want to try?

 

[pknopp]

The Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, and America-hating Leftists continue to try to sell the argument that America is an evil country that must be destroyed, that we are DEFINED by our past, by our mistakes, and by our 'sins' while completelyrefusing to look at the good / the acts / the accomlishments that have contributed to the United States being the greratest nation in the world.

As Christians we know that we are NOT defined by our past / the 'sins' of our past. Jesus Christ washed those away when he died on the cross for us. Despite being creatures of sinful nature - farfrom perfect, we are a new creation, and we are called to be better.

Social Justice Is a Christian Tradition — Not a Liberal Agenda

It is so amusing when atheistic communists turn to the Bible for support.

See previous reply.

The word 'justice' requires no modifier.


The source you used is a part of the International/Soros/Wallis Left.

1. JIM WALLIS' SOJOURNERS ACCEPTS $150,000 MORE FROM ATHEIST GEORGE SOROS
2. Last year Jim Wallis encountered a barrage of criticism when WORLD reported that his religious left organization, Sojourners, took $325,000 from the world's most notorious billionaire, pro-abortion atheist George Soros .
3. Wallis confirmed that Soros' Open Society Foundation has just given Sojourners $150,000 more.
4. The donation is more evidence that Wallis and Sojourners are on the left, even though the organization appeals to young evangelicals by claiming to be apolitical
5. Sojourners has paid its bills through contributions from co-religionists but also with $250,000 from The Tides Foundation, $200,000 from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations, and additional sums from Barbra Streisand and others.
6. Sojourners is a useful tool in reducing evangelical support for conservatives. Others have grander motives: Soros himself has stated, "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States." Soros gives money to Wallis to promote the political views they share. Providing clarity to the news that matters most – WORLD

Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?

I was raised a Quaker. They have long supported the same things.

"Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?"

I'm really good at both.

Why would I restrict myself to only one????

You are no longer 12? (that's correct right?)

 

[WillPower]

Whatever people do or don't do has nothing to do with what I said. There is no justification for honoring people who fought to keep slavery legal.

Period.

False premise.

Period.

 

[PoliticalChic]

People who seek to tear things down focus on nothing but the negative, ignores everything (facts) that undermines their agenda, and fans ther flames of division - inciting, intimidating, and drvoing others to focus on what DIVIDES us, not what UNITES us.

As the saying goes, 'UNITED we stand, and...' - as our enemies from without and end are counting on - 'DIVIDED WE FALL'.


.

Why is it wrong to address what divides us?

No Liberal ever....EVER....wants to 'address' the question.

Watch how I leave you speechless:

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

View attachment 360051

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

I believe you know what I was asking.
You certainly know how to duck the question.

 

[easyt65]

Remove the police from the equation......170 separate incidents, over 300 shot, double digit deaths, blacks shooting / murdering each other, killing children....over a WEEKEND.

As the Atlanta Mayor declared yesterday, you can't blame 'racist cops' for the out of control black-on-black crime that demonstrates Black Lives DON'T Really Matter to these people...

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, and America-hating Leftists continue to try to sell the argument that America is an evil country that must be destroyed, that we are DEFINED by our past, by our mistakes, and by our 'sins' while completelyrefusing to look at the good / the acts / the accomlishments that have contributed to the United States being the greratest nation in the world.

As Christians we know that we are NOT defined by our past / the 'sins' of our past. Jesus Christ washed those away when he died on the cross for us. Despite being creatures of sinful nature - farfrom perfect, we are a new creation, and we are called to be better.

Social Justice Is a Christian Tradition — Not a Liberal Agenda

It is so amusing when atheistic communists turn to the Bible for support.

See previous reply.

The word 'justice' requires no modifier.


The source you used is a part of the International/Soros/Wallis Left.

1. JIM WALLIS' SOJOURNERS ACCEPTS $150,000 MORE FROM ATHEIST GEORGE SOROS
2. Last year Jim Wallis encountered a barrage of criticism when WORLD reported that his religious left organization, Sojourners, took $325,000 from the world's most notorious billionaire, pro-abortion atheist George Soros .
3. Wallis confirmed that Soros' Open Society Foundation has just given Sojourners $150,000 more.
4. The donation is more evidence that Wallis and Sojourners are on the left, even though the organization appeals to young evangelicals by claiming to be apolitical
5. Sojourners has paid its bills through contributions from co-religionists but also with $250,000 from The Tides Foundation, $200,000 from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations, and additional sums from Barbra Streisand and others.
6. Sojourners is a useful tool in reducing evangelical support for conservatives. Others have grander motives: Soros himself has stated, "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States." Soros gives money to Wallis to promote the political views they share. Providing clarity to the news that matters most – WORLD

Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?

I was raised a Quaker. They have long supported the same things.

"Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?"

I'm really good at both.

Why would I restrict myself to only one????

You are no longer 12? (that's correct right?)

I don't believe Harry S. was 12 when he said " if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen ."

 

[pknopp]

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

then you must not be able to accept the fact that Democrats are not racist as well, because there is so much evidence that they are / have been.

Slavery
Civil War
Jim Crowe
Segregation
'Economic Slavery'

Biden has promised to rip 'systematic racism by the roots'.....yet the proven racist has been in politics fotr decades and has made little effort to do so, let alone acted to do so - yet another promise not meant, one meant to mislead and appease.

Democrats have declared themselves to be the 'champions of blacks' yet have done / accomplished nothing for them for DECADES. Users, manipulators, etc...champions for'? No.

President Trump delivered / did more for blacks in 3 years than Barry did in 8, more than Democrats have done over decades.

Actions not words....the Democrats have been all mouth / words for DECADES with no proven intention of ever following through.....


.

I have no reason to defend anything Biden has said as I do not support him. If Trump cared about the plight of blacks he wouldn't have called Kaepernick a SOB but I really am not interested in the partisan political arguments of the issue.

 

[pknopp]

People who seek to tear things down focus on nothing but the negative, ignores everything (facts) that undermines their agenda, and fans ther flames of division - inciting, intimidating, and drvoing others to focus on what DIVIDES us, not what UNITES us.

As the saying goes, 'UNITED we stand, and...' - as our enemies from without and end are counting on - 'DIVIDED WE FALL'.


.

Why is it wrong to address what divides us?

No Liberal ever....EVER....wants to 'address' the question.

Watch how I leave you speechless:

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

View attachment 360051

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

You appear able to answer the question.....but something prevents you from doing so.

Why is that?



If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:



View attachment 360109

​

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com




Are you certain you don't want to try?

Nowhere except for the end did you ask a question. You have to actually ask a question.

 

[Thinker101]

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

then you must not be able to accept the fact that Democrats are not racist as well, because there is so much evidence that they are / have been.

Slavery
Civil War
Jim Crowe
Segregation
'Economic Slavery'

Biden has promised to rip 'systematic racism by the roots'.....yet the proven racist has been in politics fotr decades and has made little effort to do so, let alone acted to do so - yet another promise not meant, one meant to mislead and appease.

Democrats have declared themselves to be the 'champions of blacks' yet have done / accomplished nothing for them for DECADES. Users, manipulators, etc...champions for'? No.

President Trump delivered / did more for blacks in 3 years than Barry did in 8, more than Democrats have done over decades.

Actions not words....the Democrats have been all mouth / words for DECADES with no proven intention of ever following through.....


.

I have no reason to defend anything Biden has said as I do not support him. If Trump cared about the plight of blacks he wouldn't have called Kaepernick a SOB but I really am not interested in the partisan political arguments of the issue.

Dang, what, is this a vacation day for you?

 

[pknopp]

The Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, and America-hating Leftists continue to try to sell the argument that America is an evil country that must be destroyed, that we are DEFINED by our past, by our mistakes, and by our 'sins' while completelyrefusing to look at the good / the acts / the accomlishments that have contributed to the United States being the greratest nation in the world.

As Christians we know that we are NOT defined by our past / the 'sins' of our past. Jesus Christ washed those away when he died on the cross for us. Despite being creatures of sinful nature - farfrom perfect, we are a new creation, and we are called to be better.

Social Justice Is a Christian Tradition — Not a Liberal Agenda

It is so amusing when atheistic communists turn to the Bible for support.

See previous reply.

The word 'justice' requires no modifier.


The source you used is a part of the International/Soros/Wallis Left.

1. JIM WALLIS' SOJOURNERS ACCEPTS $150,000 MORE FROM ATHEIST GEORGE SOROS
2. Last year Jim Wallis encountered a barrage of criticism when WORLD reported that his religious left organization, Sojourners, took $325,000 from the world's most notorious billionaire, pro-abortion atheist George Soros .
3. Wallis confirmed that Soros' Open Society Foundation has just given Sojourners $150,000 more.
4. The donation is more evidence that Wallis and Sojourners are on the left, even though the organization appeals to young evangelicals by claiming to be apolitical
5. Sojourners has paid its bills through contributions from co-religionists but also with $250,000 from The Tides Foundation, $200,000 from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations, and additional sums from Barbra Streisand and others.
6. Sojourners is a useful tool in reducing evangelical support for conservatives. Others have grander motives: Soros himself has stated, "The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States." Soros gives money to Wallis to promote the political views they share. Providing clarity to the news that matters most – WORLD

Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?

I was raised a Quaker. They have long supported the same things.

"Now it wasn't so hard to make an argument as opposed to just calling someone names was it?"

I'm really good at both.

Why would I restrict myself to only one????

You are no longer 12? (that's correct right?)

I don't believe Harry S. was 12 when he said " if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen ."

Was that calling someone a name?

 

[pknopp]

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

then you must not be able to accept the fact that Democrats are not racist as well, because there is so much evidence that they are / have been.

Slavery
Civil War
Jim Crowe
Segregation
'Economic Slavery'

Biden has promised to rip 'systematic racism by the roots'.....yet the proven racist has been in politics fotr decades and has made little effort to do so, let alone acted to do so - yet another promise not meant, one meant to mislead and appease.

Democrats have declared themselves to be the 'champions of blacks' yet have done / accomplished nothing for them for DECADES. Users, manipulators, etc...champions for'? No.

President Trump delivered / did more for blacks in 3 years than Barry did in 8, more than Democrats have done over decades.

Actions not words....the Democrats have been all mouth / words for DECADES with no proven intention of ever following through.....


.

I have no reason to defend anything Biden has said as I do not support him. If Trump cared about the plight of blacks he wouldn't have called Kaepernick a SOB but I really am not interested in the partisan political arguments of the issue.

Dang, what, is this a vacation day for you?

I wish people would be a little more clearer with their questions if you have a point to make.

 

[easyt65]

I have no reason to defend anything Biden has said as I do not support him. If Trump cared about the plight of blacks he wouldn't have called Kaepernick a SOB but I really am not interested in the partisan political arguments of the issue.

Kaepernick is a self-centered, self-promoting, race-baiting SOB. His hypocrisy through a former tweet about Independence Day was exposed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

People who seek to tear things down focus on nothing but the negative, ignores everything (facts) that undermines their agenda, and fans ther flames of division - inciting, intimidating, and drvoing others to focus on what DIVIDES us, not what UNITES us.

As the saying goes, 'UNITED we stand, and...' - as our enemies from without and end are counting on - 'DIVIDED WE FALL'.


.

Why is it wrong to address what divides us?

No Liberal ever....EVER....wants to 'address' the question.

Watch how I leave you speechless:

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

View attachment 360051

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com

I have no idea what you are trying to ask but we can't simply accept the idea that police officers (not all) aren't racist. Too many examples of where they obviously are.

You appear able to answer the question.....but something prevents you from doing so.

Why is that?



If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:



View attachment 360109

​

Infographic: U.S. Police Shootings: Blacks Disproportionately Affected

Number of people killed in police shootings in the U.S. since January 01, 2015.

www.statista.com




Are you certain you don't want to try?

Nowhere except for the end did you ask a question. You have to actually ask a question.

I asked it twice.

I won't ask a third time, I'll just allow readers to draw the same conclusion that I have, about you.


I fully understand the fear.....I've seen it every time I posed that query. I'm simply much braver than you are.

 

[berg80]

"....b...b....but Trump..."

As much as I understand how difficult it is for you to deal with reality.........Trump actually did turn on Faux because they reported something he didn't want to hear. Namely, the reality he is behind in the polls.
He is telling his supporters to abandon Faux for reporting an undeniable fact he finds disagreeable. He's trying to shape reality to conform with the lie he believes in. It's delusional.

We have to think about the ramifications of such behavior in the context of his presidency. For example, his denial that Putin helped him get elected. And what that denial implies for national security. It is unsafe for America to have a POTUS that refuses to deal with objective reality.

 

[berg80]

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

Why ask anyone to consider a question made up of component parts that do not reflect reality? Is it because you don't know how to word a question that gets the desired answer while being honest?

 

[easyt65]

"....b...b....but Trump..."

As much as I understand how difficult it is for you to deal with reality.........Trump actually did turn on Faux because they reported something he didn't want to hear. Namely, the reality he is behind in the polls.
He is telling his supporters to abandon Faux for reporting an undeniable fact he finds disagreeable. He's trying to shape reality to conform with the lie he believes in. It's delusional.

We have to think about the ramifications of such behavior in the context of his presidency. For example, his denial that Putin helped him get elected. And what that denial implies for national security. It is unsafe for America to have a POTUS that refuses to deal with objective reality.

As much as I realize it is almost impossible for you to engage in 'what*about*ism' and cry 'b....b...b...but what about Trump' in response to a damning factual comment about Democrats it is still nonetheless a weak response and a sign that you can not defend either the historical record of the Democratic party or the fact that they are 100% racists if - as snowflakes and domestic enemies claim - we are DEFINED BY OUR WORST MOMENTS IN HISTORY.

 

[easyt65]

If, for a moment, we posit that the police are not racist in the slightest, what would be the explanation for this:

Why ask anyone to consider a question made up of component parts that do not reflect reality? Is it because you don't know how to word a question that gets the desired answer while being honest?

Your 'surrender' is duly noted.