Erasing The Past

I have no problem with statues of Hitler and Stalin being torn down. After all, these were evil men in which there was no good.

But should the Founding Fathers be treated the same?

Yes or no?

No.

And since I never said or implied such a thing should happen, why did you make a false statement about what I supposedly said?
 
I have no problem with statues of Hitler and Stalin being torn down. After all, these were evil men in which there was no good.

But should the Founding Fathers be treated the same?

Yes or no?

For some of the stuff they did, yes.

The Confederates, definitely need to be treated the same.

So for some of the stuff they did their memory should be eradicated?

The Constitution is a document that outlines our freedoms, in fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted to include freeing slaves in the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson also outlawed most of the Alien and Sedition Acts that made it illegal to speak out against government. Can you imagine what the country would be like had he not risen up to get rid of those provisions? In fact, the provision that were still left, FDR used to lock up innocent Japanese Americans.
 
Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.



1.In so many ways, George Orwell foretold what we have been witnessing: ā€˜1984ā€™ is the current Democrat control of society. Removing the statues, all of which are of Democrats, is just one aspect.
In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'."
Winston Smith s role in 1984



2. And that is exactly what is taking place: the Left is re-writing history in their image. They call them ā€˜fact checkers,ā€™ but they are no more than one of the arms of the octopus called the International Left, or, in America, the Democrat Party.

ā€œFact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil Warā€ Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War

Hereā€™s the ā€˜new truth,ā€™ very different from the ā€˜real truth.ā€

The Democrats of the Confederacy didnā€™t start the Civil War.

The KKK was not the military arm of the Democrat Party.

The Democrats did not fight to preserve slavery.

The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.



The real truth was ā€œrated false by PolitiFact and the Associated Press in October 2018ā€¦. historians say the party is not to blame.ā€ Ibid.




And every one of the Democrat controlled disseminators of information follows the party line.

USA TODAY, "'You have to keep at it': What Black Lives Matter demonstrators can learn from civil rights protests of the past"

Princeton University Edwards Professor of American History Tera Hunter

NPR, "The Original Blexit"

YouTube, "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah"

PolitiFact, "No, the Democratic Party didnā€™t create the Ku Klux Klan"

Associated Press, "Ku Klux Klan not founded by the Democratic Party"

History.com, "Republican Party Founded"

Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator Jon Grinspan

Khan Academy, "The First KKK"

Encyclopedia Britannica, "Ku Klux Klan"

These, and Comedy Central, are the sources of information for the savages who are taking over this country.



Can you see why Iā€™m a pessimist about our future?
The part of the Democratic Party that founded the KKK are all trumpkins now. Poor little clueless girl
We donā€™t raise monuments to treasonous losers
Just for shits and giggle, when did the "Big Switch" happen if you dont mind telling US?
Goldwater.


Brave Republican anti-segregationist.


Watch this, you dope:

1. There is no misconduct in not knowing. There is sloth, as it means, in this information age, that one hasnā€™t attempted to learn. But there is misconduct in pretending that ignorance is beneficial to oneā€™s perspective.

That defines you.

Sloth bound to misconduct.

2.Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. LBJ, for it. Who was the racist?

3.The answer is fairly simple. One man supported equal rights throughout his life. The other supported segregation, including blocking every anti-lynching bill that came his way.

4. Filling in your lapses in knowledge would require more time and space than is availableā€¦Here is part of the education youā€™ve failed to incorporate: Property rights precede liberty. Perhaps some know that before it became ā€œlife, liberty, and the pursuit of happinessā€ in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to ā€œlife, liberty, and property.ā€ Property Rights Have Personal Parallels

5. Goldwater knew this. LBJ probably knew it, as well. But segregationist liberal Democrats saw the opportunity to camouflage their pro-slavery history, and didnā€™t stop at co-opting property rights through the misuse of the commerce clause.

6.Not only did it hide their intentions to obfuscate, but it provide cover for the most stupid among us to support big government totalitarianism as though it were some sort of noble endeavor. Raise your paw.

a. Misconduct also included turning a blind eye to the effects of the LBJ program.

ā€œThe Great Society was the panacea for poverty, right? And it especially helped blacks, who had been held back by years of racism, didnā€™t it? For those who think that the government is the most efficient dispensary of public welfare, the answer is yes. But the historical facts and figures disagree markedly, and itā€™s hard to paint this disparity as sheer coincidence. Those facts indicate that the plight of blacks had been improving up until the passage of the Great Society program, but that in the forty-some-odd years since, blacksā€™ economic, social, familial, and educational situations have gotten much worse.ā€




Soā€¦.who was the racistā€¦Goldwater or LBJ?
You need to quit reading right wing bullshit. Johnson signed and pressed congress to pass voting and civil rights. Goldwater opposed them. So whatever segregation Johnson supported earlier he damn sure undid. Meanwhile Goldwater pushed racism.

You're out of your league here girlie. Stop before I chose to give you another spanking. Apparently you like spankings.

Freak. Lol! :laughing0301:
 
I have no problem with statues of Hitler and Stalin being torn down. After all, these were evil men in which there was no good.

But should the Founding Fathers be treated the same?

Yes or no?

For some of the stuff they did, yes.

The Confederates, definitely need to be treated the same.

So for some of the stuff they did their memory should be eradicated?

The Constitution is a document that outlines our freedoms, in fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted to include freeing slaves in the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson also outlawed most of the Alien and Sedition Acts that made it illegal to speak out against government. Can you imagine what the country would be like had he not risen up to get rid of those provisions? In fact, the provision that were still left, FDR used to lock up innocent Japanese Americans.
If Jefferson wanted to free the slaves he could have. He wrote the document. So let's not lie.
 
Statues are being vandalized for one reason and one reason only - they are white. I doesn't make any difference whether the men were fierce abolitionists or actively promoted racism. If they are white they are a target.

This has nothing to do with "social justice" It is simply an attack on anything white.
 
Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.



1.In so many ways, George Orwell foretold what we have been witnessing: ā€˜1984ā€™ is the current Democrat control of society. Removing the statues, all of which are of Democrats, is just one aspect.
In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'."
Winston Smith s role in 1984



2. And that is exactly what is taking place: the Left is re-writing history in their image. They call them ā€˜fact checkers,ā€™ but they are no more than one of the arms of the octopus called the International Left, or, in America, the Democrat Party.

ā€œFact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil Warā€ Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War

Hereā€™s the ā€˜new truth,ā€™ very different from the ā€˜real truth.ā€

The Democrats of the Confederacy didnā€™t start the Civil War.

The KKK was not the military arm of the Democrat Party.

The Democrats did not fight to preserve slavery.

The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.



The real truth was ā€œrated false by PolitiFact and the Associated Press in October 2018ā€¦. historians say the party is not to blame.ā€ Ibid.




And every one of the Democrat controlled disseminators of information follows the party line.

USA TODAY, "'You have to keep at it': What Black Lives Matter demonstrators can learn from civil rights protests of the past"

Princeton University Edwards Professor of American History Tera Hunter

NPR, "The Original Blexit"

YouTube, "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah"

PolitiFact, "No, the Democratic Party didnā€™t create the Ku Klux Klan"

Associated Press, "Ku Klux Klan not founded by the Democratic Party"

History.com, "Republican Party Founded"

Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator Jon Grinspan

Khan Academy, "The First KKK"

Encyclopedia Britannica, "Ku Klux Klan"

These, and Comedy Central, are the sources of information for the savages who are taking over this country.



Can you see why Iā€™m a pessimist about our future?
The part of the Democratic Party that founded the KKK are all trumpkins now. Poor little clueless girl
We donā€™t raise monuments to treasonous losers
Just for shits and giggle, when did the "Big Switch" happen if you dont mind telling US?
Goldwater.


Brave Republican anti-segregationist.


Watch this, you dope:

1. There is no misconduct in not knowing. There is sloth, as it means, in this information age, that one hasnā€™t attempted to learn. But there is misconduct in pretending that ignorance is beneficial to oneā€™s perspective.

That defines you.

Sloth bound to misconduct.

2.Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. LBJ, for it. Who was the racist?

3.The answer is fairly simple. One man supported equal rights throughout his life. The other supported segregation, including blocking every anti-lynching bill that came his way.

4. Filling in your lapses in knowledge would require more time and space than is availableā€¦Here is part of the education youā€™ve failed to incorporate: Property rights precede liberty. Perhaps some know that before it became ā€œlife, liberty, and the pursuit of happinessā€ in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to ā€œlife, liberty, and property.ā€ Property Rights Have Personal Parallels

5. Goldwater knew this. LBJ probably knew it, as well. But segregationist liberal Democrats saw the opportunity to camouflage their pro-slavery history, and didnā€™t stop at co-opting property rights through the misuse of the commerce clause.

6.Not only did it hide their intentions to obfuscate, but it provide cover for the most stupid among us to support big government totalitarianism as though it were some sort of noble endeavor. Raise your paw.

a. Misconduct also included turning a blind eye to the effects of the LBJ program.

ā€œThe Great Society was the panacea for poverty, right? And it especially helped blacks, who had been held back by years of racism, didnā€™t it? For those who think that the government is the most efficient dispensary of public welfare, the answer is yes. But the historical facts and figures disagree markedly, and itā€™s hard to paint this disparity as sheer coincidence. Those facts indicate that the plight of blacks had been improving up until the passage of the Great Society program, but that in the forty-some-odd years since, blacksā€™ economic, social, familial, and educational situations have gotten much worse.ā€




Soā€¦.who was the racistā€¦Goldwater or LBJ?
You need to quit reading right wing bullshit. Johnson signed and pressed congress to pass voting and civil rights. Goldwater opposed them. So whatever segregation Johnson supported earlier he damn sure undid. Meanwhile Goldwater pushed racism.

You're out of your league here girlie. Stop before I chose to give you another spanking. Apparently you like spankings.

Freak. Lol! :laughing0301:

You must be retarded
 
I have no problem with statues of Hitler and Stalin being torn down. After all, these were evil men in which there was no good.

But should the Founding Fathers be treated the same?

Yes or no?

For some of the stuff they did, yes.

The Confederates, definitely need to be treated the same.

So for some of the stuff they did their memory should be eradicated?

The Constitution is a document that outlines our freedoms, in fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted to include freeing slaves in the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson also outlawed most of the Alien and Sedition Acts that made it illegal to speak out against government. Can you imagine what the country would be like had he not risen up to get rid of those provisions? In fact, the provision that were still left, FDR used to lock up innocent Japanese Americans.
If Jefferson wanted to free the slaves he could have. He wrote the document. So let's not lie.
The political pressure not to free the slaves was too great for him.

Most don't realize this but had South Caroline not agreed to join the Revolution it would have failed. In fact, most of the battles of the Revolution was fought in South Carolina, something that is not taught in our history classes. This is because the greatest amount of wealth and power came from the slave state.

Now had the Revolution not occurred, slavery would have continued.
 
I will ask you the same question.

Are the Founding Fathers comparable to Hitler and Stalin? Should their monuments be torn down as well?

Those are two separate questions.

No, they aren't comparable.

There's a long gap between "as bad as Hitler" and "Totally deserves a monument".

The problem is, our history is basically one of rich white people exploiting everyone else.. Immigrants, blacks, Indigenous people. We like to romanticize ourselves as this great egalitarian society, but let's be honest, we've had 45 presidents and most of them have been WASPs.

If you are a Jew, you don't think Hitler deserves a monument.
If you are a Cherokee, you don't think Andrew Jackson deserves a monument.
If you are a black person, you don't think Jefferson Davis deserves a monument.

So we are having a discussion about whether or not these men need to be reverred... of course, they will be remembered. Nobody is going to forget who Hitler was, even with no statues of him.
 
The political pressure not to free the slaves was too great for him.

Most don't realize this but had South Caroline not agreed to join the Revolution it would have failed. In fact, most of the battles of the Revolution was fought in South Carolina, something that is not taught in our history classes. This is because the greatest amount of wealth and power came from the slave state.

Now had the Revolution not occurred, slavery would have continued.

South Carolina? Really? Get real.

the only reason Jefferson didn't stop slavery was because he was raping the shit out of Sally Hemmings and living large on the hard work of the slaves of Monticello.

The point was, the Founding Fathers KNEW slavery was wrong, they KNEW it ran contrary to the egalitarian society they were trying to establish based on Enlightenment philosophies. They kept it in there, anyway. It haunts us to this very day.

I'm not sure I want to tear the statues of Jefferson down, but re-evaluating him might be in order.
 
So for some of the stuff they did their memory should be eradicated?

The Constitution is a document that outlines our freedoms, in fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted to include freeing slaves in the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson also outlawed most of the Alien and Sedition Acts that made it illegal to speak out against government. Can you imagine what the country would be like had he not risen up to get rid of those provisions? In fact, the provision that were still left, FDR used to lock up innocent Japanese Americans.

Actually, I really don't fault FDR for BRIEFLY detaining Japanese immigrants and citizens in 1942 (most of them were released by 1943.) The reality- the Axis found collaborators in every country they invaded, did you really want to leave 100K collaborators in a potential war zone.

Thomas Jefferson didn't include freeing the slaves in the DOI or the Constitution. That's the point. He personally benefitted from slavery and sexually abused a woman for years because she was his property (and happened to be his dead wife's half-sister because his father in law did the same kind of stuff.)

No one said "eradicate" his memory. But put him in a position of less honor? Maybe. Worth having the discussion, to be sure.
 
Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.



1.In so many ways, George Orwell foretold what we have been witnessing: ā€˜1984ā€™ is the current Democrat control of society. Removing the statues, all of which are of Democrats, is just one aspect.
In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'."
Winston Smith s role in 1984



2. And that is exactly what is taking place: the Left is re-writing history in their image. They call them ā€˜fact checkers,ā€™ but they are no more than one of the arms of the octopus called the International Left, or, in America, the Democrat Party.

ā€œFact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil Warā€ Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War

Hereā€™s the ā€˜new truth,ā€™ very different from the ā€˜real truth.ā€

The Democrats of the Confederacy didnā€™t start the Civil War.

The KKK was not the military arm of the Democrat Party.

The Democrats did not fight to preserve slavery.

The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.



The real truth was ā€œrated false by PolitiFact and the Associated Press in October 2018ā€¦. historians say the party is not to blame.ā€ Ibid.




And every one of the Democrat controlled disseminators of information follows the party line.

USA TODAY, "'You have to keep at it': What Black Lives Matter demonstrators can learn from civil rights protests of the past"

Princeton University Edwards Professor of American History Tera Hunter

NPR, "The Original Blexit"

YouTube, "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah"

PolitiFact, "No, the Democratic Party didnā€™t create the Ku Klux Klan"

Associated Press, "Ku Klux Klan not founded by the Democratic Party"

History.com, "Republican Party Founded"

Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator Jon Grinspan

Khan Academy, "The First KKK"

Encyclopedia Britannica, "Ku Klux Klan"

These, and Comedy Central, are the sources of information for the savages who are taking over this country.



Can you see why Iā€™m a pessimist about our future?
The part of the Democratic Party that founded the KKK are all trumpkins now. Poor little clueless girl
We donā€™t raise monuments to treasonous losers
Just for shits and giggle, when did the "Big Switch" happen if you dont mind telling US?
Goldwater.
That was when the big switch happened? How about a month and year?
 
Statues are being vandalized for one reason and one reason only - they are white. I doesn't make any difference whether the men were fierce abolitionists or actively promoted racism. If they are white they are a target.

This has nothing to do with "social justice" It is simply an attack on anything white.

Ooooh, noes, your white privilege is being assaulted...

Most of the statues being taken down are being taken down for a reason.
 
So for some of the stuff they did their memory should be eradicated?

The Constitution is a document that outlines our freedoms, in fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted to include freeing slaves in the Declaration of Independence. Thomas Jefferson also outlawed most of the Alien and Sedition Acts that made it illegal to speak out against government. Can you imagine what the country would be like had he not risen up to get rid of those provisions? In fact, the provision that were still left, FDR used to lock up innocent Japanese Americans.

Actually, I really don't fault FDR for BRIEFLY detaining Japanese immigrants and citizens in 1942 (most of them were released by 1943.) The reality- the Axis found collaborators in every country they invaded, did you really want to leave 100K collaborators in a potential war zone.

Quite a leap there. No, there is no defense of what FDR did.
 
Many of our heralded founding fathers owned slaves. Out of the 55 so-called founders, 26 owned slaves and one owned a slave ship. The slave owners were:

Richard Bassett (DE), Jacob Broom (DE), John Dickinson (DE), George Read (DE),William Houstoun (GA), William Few (GA), William Samuel Johnson (CT), Daniel Carroll (MD), Luther Martin (MD), John Francis Mercer (MD), Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer (MD), William Livingston (NJ), William Blount (NC), William Richardson Davie (NC), Alexander Martin (NC), Richard Dobbs Spaight (NC), Pierce Butler (SC), Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (SC), Charles Pinckney (SC), John Rutledge (SC), John Blair (VA), James Madison (VA), George Mason (VA), Edmund Randolph (VA), George Washington (VA), George Wythe (VA), Robert Morris (PA)*.

*Robert Morris owned a slave ship.
So while he didnā€™t own slave, he was a prime participant in the industry.

We are on President number 45 as of this writing. Out of these 45 presidents, it is a fact that 12 of them owned slaves. Thatā€™s more than ONE FOURTH of our presidents. Ten of the twelve owned slaves while in office. While many want to make this so clean and easy, I am not going to do that. It must be understood that presidents of this country conducted the business of slavery in the white house. They owned slaves in the white house. They beat their slaves in the white house. They bought and sold slaves from the white house. The ten slave owners while in the white house were:

Our nations ā€œfatherā€ George Washington owned over 300 slaves. Thomas Jefferson owned 600 slaves. His slave mistress even had children by him. Think about that each time you see a black person with the last name Jefferson. James Madison owned more than 100 slaves. James Monroe owned 75 slaves. Andrew Jackson owned 200 slaves. Martin Van Buren owned 1 slave. I guess he would be considered a nice and humane slave owner. After all, he could have owned 600. William Henry Harrison owned 11 slaves. John Tyler owned 70 slaves. James K. Polk owned 25 slaves. Zachary Taylor owned about 150 slaves. These 10 men owned slaves as duly elected presidents of the United States. This is a hard truth of the American past that MUST be faced.


This is not about holding anyone from the past to modern standards. I bristle when I hear this, especially after I must hear about how great the founders were. They are being held to the standards they put on parchment themselves. As for the,ā€ I wasnā€™t alive thenā€ excuse, none of these men are here today, if we cannot hold them accountable for their racism then why can we credit them? Is there anyone here today who was around for the revolutionary war?
Barack Obamaā€™s Ancestors Owned Slaves
But it looks as if there will be a problem with the statue of the 44th POTUS, especially in todayā€™s hypersensitive racial climate. No, weā€™re not talking about disgusting neo-Nazis protesting a statue dedicated to a Black Man. Nor is it because as president economic conditions for African-Americas relative to Caucasians declined. Bu.t no Obama statue should be built because he is descended from slave-owners.
Real quick here...Do you see something amiss?
 
Historical revisionism that changes a regional North/South issue into modern political patronage.

Slavery existed in the south for 200 years before the Democratic Party was formed. To claim that slavery was somehow the fault of either modern political party is pure deception
It exposes the pure evil of Republicanism and white supremacy.
 
3. Letā€™s begin destroying the lies with this one, that the Democrat South didnā€™t start the war.

Are you sure you want to go down this route? Most other Trump traitors revise history to claim that the peaceful south was invaded for no reason by the north. Are you really willing to go against cult dogma?

I agree that It really isn't debatable that the south started the fighting. Even before Ft. Sumter, they violently attacked a bunch of federal arsenals all around the south. And the south was the first side to raise an army. The Union didn't raise an army until after the Confederacy did.

Anyways, since the old southern Democrats are now Republicans, the rest of your piece condemns modern Republicans.



I just proved that the USAToday claim is a lie.

And, no, the old Democrats are the new Democrats/


Two-term Democrat Clinton was always a racist.

Did you vote for him?
 
Remove the record of iniquity and one removes the stain, embarrassment, ability for good people to point fingers and avoid those with the ignoble history.



1.In so many ways, George Orwell foretold what we have been witnessing: ā€˜1984ā€™ is the current Democrat control of society. Removing the statues, all of which are of Democrats, is just one aspect.
In the prescient novel, "1984," George Orwell's sort-of hero, Winston Smith, has the job "to overwrite the truth, to replace the history of what happened with a revised version. Winston enjoys his work and is good at it, yet at the same time he worries about the rewriting of history, and wants to know 'what really happened'."
Winston Smith s role in 1984



2. And that is exactly what is taking place: the Left is re-writing history in their image. They call them ā€˜fact checkers,ā€™ but they are no more than one of the arms of the octopus called the International Left, or, in America, the Democrat Party.

ā€œFact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil Warā€ Fact check: Democratic Party did not found the KKK, did not start the Civil War

Hereā€™s the ā€˜new truth,ā€™ very different from the ā€˜real truth.ā€

The Democrats of the Confederacy didnā€™t start the Civil War.

The KKK was not the military arm of the Democrat Party.

The Democrats did not fight to preserve slavery.

The two parties switched their view of black folks mid-twentieth century.



The real truth was ā€œrated false by PolitiFact and the Associated Press in October 2018ā€¦. historians say the party is not to blame.ā€ Ibid.




And every one of the Democrat controlled disseminators of information follows the party line.

USA TODAY, "'You have to keep at it': What Black Lives Matter demonstrators can learn from civil rights protests of the past"

Princeton University Edwards Professor of American History Tera Hunter

NPR, "The Original Blexit"

YouTube, "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah"

PolitiFact, "No, the Democratic Party didnā€™t create the Ku Klux Klan"

Associated Press, "Ku Klux Klan not founded by the Democratic Party"

History.com, "Republican Party Founded"

Smithsonian National Museum of American History Curator Jon Grinspan

Khan Academy, "The First KKK"

Encyclopedia Britannica, "Ku Klux Klan"

These, and Comedy Central, are the sources of information for the savages who are taking over this country.



Can you see why Iā€™m a pessimist about our future?
The part of the Democratic Party that founded the KKK are all trumpkins now. Poor little clueless girl
We donā€™t raise monuments to treasonous losers
Just for shits and giggle, when did the "Big Switch" happen if you dont mind telling US?
Goldwater.


Brave Republican anti-segregationist.


Watch this, you dope:

1. There is no misconduct in not knowing. There is sloth, as it means, in this information age, that one hasnā€™t attempted to learn. But there is misconduct in pretending that ignorance is beneficial to oneā€™s perspective.

That defines you.

Sloth bound to misconduct.

2.Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. LBJ, for it. Who was the racist?

3.The answer is fairly simple. One man supported equal rights throughout his life. The other supported segregation, including blocking every anti-lynching bill that came his way.

4. Filling in your lapses in knowledge would require more time and space than is availableā€¦Here is part of the education youā€™ve failed to incorporate: Property rights precede liberty. Perhaps some know that before it became ā€œlife, liberty, and the pursuit of happinessā€ in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to ā€œlife, liberty, and property.ā€ Property Rights Have Personal Parallels

5. Goldwater knew this. LBJ probably knew it, as well. But segregationist liberal Democrats saw the opportunity to camouflage their pro-slavery history, and didnā€™t stop at co-opting property rights through the misuse of the commerce clause.

6.Not only did it hide their intentions to obfuscate, but it provide cover for the most stupid among us to support big government totalitarianism as though it were some sort of noble endeavor. Raise your paw.

a. Misconduct also included turning a blind eye to the effects of the LBJ program.

ā€œThe Great Society was the panacea for poverty, right? And it especially helped blacks, who had been held back by years of racism, didnā€™t it? For those who think that the government is the most efficient dispensary of public welfare, the answer is yes. But the historical facts and figures disagree markedly, and itā€™s hard to paint this disparity as sheer coincidence. Those facts indicate that the plight of blacks had been improving up until the passage of the Great Society program, but that in the forty-some-odd years since, blacksā€™ economic, social, familial, and educational situations have gotten much worse.ā€




Soā€¦.who was the racistā€¦Goldwater or LBJ?
You need to quit reading right wing bullshit. Johnson signed and pressed congress to pass voting and civil rights. Goldwater opposed them. So whatever segregation Johnson supported earlier he damn sure undid. Meanwhile Goldwater pushed racism.

You're out of your league here girlie. Stop before I chose to give you another spanking. Apparently you like spankings.

Freak. Lol! :laughing0301:


Clean up your language.....the vulgarity reveals that you know I've put you in your place again.
 
I just proved that the USAToday claim is a lie.

And, no, the old Democrats are the new Democrats/


Two-term Democrat Clinton was always a racist.

Did you vote for him?
Why should any black person ever vote for a party that's actively engaged in suppressing their votes?
 

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