Erasing History

[IcebergSlim]

I assume one place you don't "look into the history" is the library....

Read what? Revisionist history? That doesn't help much, does it?

So where do you go? To a larger plinth?

I read....I come across things of interest, which drives me to read more....it is through reading that one develops a critical faculty......

Proceeding on the assumption that all history found in books is "revisionist" will leave you susceptible to hucksters.....like Beck, and Breitbart, and the FOX Yahoos at whose teat you nurse....

You assume lot, don't you?

Process of deduction.....premised on your comment about reading history....

Perhaps you should consider thinking before bleating.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

News from The Associated Press

In the Soviet Union, people who became disfavored by the Communist Party were "disappeared." Not only would their body disappear, but also their memory. Photographs would be altered to remove them. History books would be edited to remove all mention of them. Any paintings or statues of them would be taken down, and everyone know that to name that person would bring upon that same fate upon themselves.

George Orwell, a socialist who became disillusioned with Communism while he fought on the Loyalist Side during the Spanish Civil War, warned the world about a future where an all powerful state would control language and history so as to control what words people were allowed to say, which would control what thoughts they were allowed to think. If there was not a word for a concept, people would not be able to think it.

Now, we see politicians in the South taking down statues and monuments of Confederate heroes. But there is no history to replace it with, so the South will become a place with no history at all. That is an ideal situation for the left, because in the gap, they can impose their own false mythology, and children will believe it in the absence of truth.

The point is this, the left hates anything or anybody who is opposed to, or outside, the all powerful state that they are trying to create. Under Communism, Christian holidays were outlawed, Churches were abandoned, children were encouraged to spy on their parents, any non-Communist parties were outlawed, all children were forced to join the Communist youth groups.

The left wants this to happen here, and if they can get either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton into office, it will be a victory for them. Both candidates hate and despise the United States, and everything it stands for. Both will continue Obama's policy of setting groups against each other, rich v. the middle class, white v. blacks, men v. women, gays v. straights. In other words, both candidates are counting on hate to sweep them into office, as what happened with Obama.

When you erase history, you are destroying all memory of our ancestors, and with it the knowledge of why we are here, what caused it to happen, and what will the future bring. The leftist wants us to live only in the present, with the state having all power over our bodies, our words, and our minds. And that is where we are going. The entire Democrat party is taking us there.

You really think the Civil War will just be forgotten? You're nuts.

Were you at Gettysburg? At Cemetery Ridge? Where did you see action?

In his mothers basement.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The civil war has already been forgotten. The battles, the men, the honor, the savagery, brother against brother, the fact that it was the bloodiest war in human history up to that point. Do a man on th street Interview and ask the young people to name any civil war generals.

All they will have is the narrow view that a war was fought that ended slavery. This is what the op is about, erase the past and erase the American identity.

And that is a bunch of crap pogo. You take away the monuments and symbols and you take away the connection to the past. What the hell you think the monuments are there for?

You must not live in the south or the southwest USA.....It has never been a dead issue to a minority..

There is no black persin, or Irish person in The United States that was ever enslaved.

You left out Native American Indians....If you are going to live in denial, please be the best at living in total denial....

Indians weren't ever enslaved. The Indians owned black slaves, though, so I guess they're no better than white people I guess.

Are you really this stupid???...people removed against their will from lands they have inhabited for thousands of years, restricted to lands they were unfamiliar with, restricted from coming and going where they wanted, beaten or killed for observing their native language and customs, purposely poisoned and killed in their own lands.
No they weren't enslaved...to idiots...

They were conquered, not enslaved. Like when the Chippewas forced the Sioux out of Minnesota.

Tthe Indians did far worse to each other, than the whites ever did.

Read a book and stop with the insults.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

News from The Associated Press

In the Soviet Union, people who became disfavored by the Communist Party were "disappeared." Not only would their body disappear, but also their memory. Photographs would be altered to remove them. History books would be edited to remove all mention of them. Any paintings or statues of them would be taken down, and everyone know that to name that person would bring upon that same fate upon themselves.

George Orwell, a socialist who became disillusioned with Communism while he fought on the Loyalist Side during the Spanish Civil War, warned the world about a future where an all powerful state would control language and history so as to control what words people were allowed to say, which would control what thoughts they were allowed to think. If there was not a word for a concept, people would not be able to think it.

Now, we see politicians in the South taking down statues and monuments of Confederate heroes. But there is no history to replace it with, so the South will become a place with no history at all. That is an ideal situation for the left, because in the gap, they can impose their own false mythology, and children will believe it in the absence of truth.

The point is this, the left hates anything or anybody who is opposed to, or outside, the all powerful state that they are trying to create. Under Communism, Christian holidays were outlawed, Churches were abandoned, children were encouraged to spy on their parents, any non-Communist parties were outlawed, all children were forced to join the Communist youth groups.

The left wants this to happen here, and if they can get either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton into office, it will be a victory for them. Both candidates hate and despise the United States, and everything it stands for. Both will continue Obama's policy of setting groups against each other, rich v. the middle class, white v. blacks, men v. women, gays v. straights. In other words, both candidates are counting on hate to sweep them into office, as what happened with Obama.

When you erase history, you are destroying all memory of our ancestors, and with it the knowledge of why we are here, what caused it to happen, and what will the future bring. The leftist wants us to live only in the present, with the state having all power over our bodies, our words, and our minds. And that is where we are going. The entire Democrat party is taking us there.

The point is this fails as a straw man fallacy, nothing but a ridiculous lie, devoid of fact or merit.

SPOCK (to Kirk) Unreal. Appearances only. They are shadows. Illusions. Nothing but ghosts of reality. They are lies. Falsehoods. Spectres without body. They are to be ignored.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

 

[IcebergSlim]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

1984 borrows "liberally" from Zamyatin's WE.....

 

[Hossfly]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

Hard to believe these 7 novels are banned. I and many in my class read these in high school.

 

[Blackrook]

Some people said that knowledge of the past can be preserved in book, so we don't need monuments.

But books can be censored, or blackballed, or thrown in a fire during a book burning.

Huckleberry Finn is a classic novel about the antebellum South. In every page you can see that Mark Twain hated slavery. Despite that, there are people who want to ban Huckleberry Finn because one of the characters is known as "****** Jim".

 

[Blackrook]

See, the word is censored on this forum, which does NOT censor other cuss words like fuck, shit, ****, etc.

 

[Blackrook]

Oh, **** is censored. I did not know that.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Some people said that knowledge of the past can be preserved in book, so we don't need monuments.

But books can be censored, or blackballed, or thrown in a fire during a book burning.

Huckleberry Finn is a classic novel about the antebellum South. In every page you can see that Mark Twain hated slavery. Despite that, there are people who want to ban Huckleberry Finn because one of the characters is known as "****** Jim".

We live in a censored world. Apparently, USMB censored you.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

Hard to believe these 7 novels are banned. I and many in my class read these in high school.

Great Expectations is banned? Why?

 

[Blackrook]

The fact that the words ****** and **** are censored on this forum, means that this forum is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

Hard to believe these 7 novels are banned. I and many in my class read these in high school.

They are not banned.......the author implies this from the frequency with which they are currently assigned...

 

[IcebergSlim]

Some people said that knowledge of the past can be preserved in book, so we don't need monuments.

But books can be censored, or blackballed, or thrown in a fire during a book burning.

Huckleberry Finn is a classic novel about the antebellum South. In every page you can see that Mark Twain hated slavery. Despite that, there are people who want to ban Huckleberry Finn because one of the characters is known as "****** Jim".

That's the extreme position.....others suggest that the text should be revised to reflect contemporary sensibilities.....which kinda defeats the purpose of the work.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Social Foundations of Education: Top Seven Classic Novels Banned from High Schools

Hard to believe these 7 novels are banned. I and many in my class read these in high school.

Great Expectations is banned? Why?

Cause it is overrated and tedious?

No....it's not "banned"....

 

[defcon4]

I suspect you need a psychiatrist. Or perhaps a brain surgeon.

U mad bro?

 

[defcon4]

Who gives a fuck?
Who paid for them to be created and set up in the first place?

Definitely not you. Remember? You were in France studying Robespierre's Reign of Terror and how to implement the eradication of all historical artifacts to fit your totalitarian agenda.

 

[reconmark]

You must not live in the south or the southwest USA.....It has never been a dead issue to a minority..

There is no black persin, or Irish person in The United States that was ever enslaved.

You left out Native American Indians....If you are going to live in denial, please be the best at living in total denial....

Indians weren't ever enslaved. The Indians owned black slaves, though, so I guess they're no better than white people I guess.

Are you really this stupid???...people removed against their will from lands they have inhabited for thousands of years, restricted to lands they were unfamiliar with, restricted from coming and going where they wanted, beaten or killed for observing their native language and customs, purposely poisoned and killed in their own lands.
No they weren't enslaved...to idiots...

They were conquered, not enslaved. Like when the Chippewas forced the Sioux out of Minnesota.

Tthe Indians did far worse to each other, than the whites ever did.

Read a book and stop with the insults.

A reservation is a prison you stupid ass...you must have been educated in Texas.
I see you didn't even address my other facts...overloaded your reptile brain.

The American Indians never attempted germ warfare or genocide on one another, white people did.
Again, are you really this stupid???

 

[defcon4]

A reservation is a prison you stupid ass...you must have been educated in Texas.
I see you didn't even address my other facts...overloaded your reptile brain.

The American Indians never attempted germ warfare or genocide on one another, white people did.
Again, are you really this stupid???

Did you call in sick today?