Enhanced Video/Pretti

[Leo123]

This is a good synopsis with video by Liz Wheeler. I think the video shows Pretti reaching with his right hand and getting something from his hip or pocket. He had already been disarmed but it looked like he was reaching for another weapon and there is something in his hand. Maybe not a gun but in the split second he was shot.

 

[candycorn]

This is a good synopsis with video by Liz Wheeler. I think the video shows Pretti reaching with his right hand and getting something from his hip or pocket. He had already been disarmed but it looked like he was reaching for another weapon and there is something in his hand. Maybe not a gun but in the split second he was shot.

Did all of that occour before or after he was disarmed then shot in the back of the head?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Did all of that occour before or after he was disarmed then shot in the back of the head?

It’s bad, but still not as bad as Ashli Babbitt

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

He should have never confronted ICE with a loaded gun.
He created the situation.

 

[citygator]

This is a good synopsis with video by Liz Wheeler. I think the video shows Pretti reaching with his right hand and getting something from his hip or pocket. He had already been disarmed but it looked like he was reaching for another weapon and there is something in his hand. Maybe not a gun but in the split second he was shot.

You ******* moron.

HE HAD HIS PHONE IN HIS HAND.

HE DOESNT REACH TOWARD HIS BACK UNTIL HE IS SHOT IN THE BACK.

THE REASON THEY ARENT PLAYING THE SOUND WITH THE VIDEO YOU JUST SHOWED IS BECAUSE THE GUNSHOT GOES OFF AND HIS HAND GOES TO THE PAIN OF A BULLET TEARING INTO HIS BACK.

HE WAS SHOT 1 SECOND AFTER BEING DISARMED. WAS SHOT IN THE BACK. EVERYONE STARTS SCRAMBLING AWAY. HE WINCES REACHES HIS HAND TOWARD THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS SHOT. AND THEN GETS SHOT 9 MORE TIMES BY TWO GUYS.

THIS WAS A MURDER AND YOUR ATTEMPT TO LIE AND DISTORT WHAT HAPPENED IS MOTHERFUCKING CRUEL AS ****. ASSHOLE.

 

[SweetSue92]

You ******* moron.

HE HAD HIS PHONE IN HIS HAND.

HE DOESNT REACH TOWARD HIS BACK UNTIL HE IS SHOT IN THE BACK.

THE REASON THEY ARENT PLAYING THE SOUND WITH THE VIDEO YOU JUST SHOWED IS BECAUSE THE GUNSHOT GOES OFF AND HIS HAND GOES TO THE PAIN OF A BULLET TEARING INTO HIS BACK.

HE WAS SHOT 1 SECOND AFTER BEING DISARMED. WAS SHOT IN THE BACK. EVERYONE STARTS SCRAMBLING AWAY. HE WINCES REACHES HIS HAND TOWARD THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS SHOT. AND THEN GETS SHOT 9 MORE TIMES BY TWO GUYS.

THIS WAS A MURDER AND YOUR ATTEMPT TO LIE AND DISTORT WHAT HAPPENED IS MOTHERFUCKING CRUEL AS ****. ASSHOLE.

Midol. Stat.

 

[SweetSue92]

You ******* moron.

HE HAD HIS PHONE IN HIS HAND.

HE DOESNT REACH TOWARD HIS BACK UNTIL HE IS SHOT IN THE BACK.

THE REASON THEY ARENT PLAYING THE SOUND WITH THE VIDEO YOU JUST SHOWED IS BECAUSE THE GUNSHOT GOES OFF AND HIS HAND GOES TO THE PAIN OF A BULLET TEARING INTO HIS BACK.

HE WAS SHOT 1 SECOND AFTER BEING DISARMED. WAS SHOT IN THE BACK. EVERYONE STARTS SCRAMBLING AWAY. HE WINCES REACHES HIS HAND TOWARD THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS SHOT. AND THEN GETS SHOT 9 MORE TIMES BY TWO GUYS.

THIS WAS A MURDER AND YOUR ATTEMPT TO LIE AND DISTORT WHAT HAPPENED IS MOTHERFUCKING CRUEL AS ****. ASSHOLE.

Everyone please notice that Pretti gets this for being a fully armed man wandering into a police situation who did not put his hands up immediately and declare that he was armed

Everyone please notice that this poster never gave this level of care for Laken Riley, raped and murdered WHILE JOGGING through a park, or for the poor woman in the subway murdered by a psychopath.

Unlike Pretti, both these women were ACTUALLY just peacefully living their lives, not making dumb decision after dumb decision that eventually got them killed.

We see you, Midol Man.

 

[WorldWatcher]

This is a good synopsis with video by Liz Wheeler. I think the video shows Pretti reaching with his right hand and getting something from his hip or pocket. He had already been disarmed but it looked like he was reaching for another weapon and there is something in his hand. Maybe not a gun but in the split second he was shot.

No it's not a "good synopsis video".

Pretti did not reach into his pocket, nor for his holster on his back (video shows this is where the officer removed his firearm).

What Pretti had in his right hand was the same object that officers had already been observing him with - his cell phone. The phone NEVER left that hand, his other hand, as the officers were manhandling him.

So Pretty was facing the ground, partiallty dragged up, cell phone in right hand, left hand on the ground when he was shot in the back.

WW

 

[Cellblock2429]

This is a good synopsis with video by Liz Wheeler. I think the video shows Pretti reaching with his right hand and getting something from his hip or pocket. He had already been disarmed but it looked like he was reaching for another weapon and there is something in his hand. Maybe not a gun but in the split second he was shot.

/----/ I'm sorry he was killed, but what did he expect to happen when he brought a gun to a protest—especially after Good was shot to death?
BTW, it's a separate criminal offense when you bring a hand gun while committing a crime. Your carry permit is instantly voided.

That is a common legal principle, though the specifics of how it plays out depend heavily on where you are. In legal terms, this is often referred to as sentence enhancement or a "felony firearm" charge.

Here is the breakdown of how that usually works:

1. The "Double-Whammy" Charge​

In many jurisdictions, if you commit a felony while armed, the prosecutor will charge you with the underlying crime (like robbery or drug trafficking) plus a separate count for the possession of the firearm during a felony.

• Consecutive Sentencing: Often, the law requires that the sentence for the gun charge be served after the sentence for the original crime is finished, rather than at the same time (concurrently).

2. Status of the Carry Permit​

You’re spot on about the permit. While "instantly voided" is the practical result, the mechanism is usually one of the following:

• Automatic Revocation: Most states have laws that trigger an immediate revocation of a concealed carry permit the moment a holder is charged with a disqualifying offense (usually any felony or a violent misdemeanor).
• Prohibited Person Status: Under federal law (and most state laws), if you are convicted of a crime punishable by more than a year in prison, you become a "prohibited person." It becomes a federal crime for you to possess a firearm or ammunition ever again, regardless of any previous permits.

3. The "Use vs. Possession" Distinction​

The severity of the extra charge often depends on what was done with the handgun:

• Possession: Simply having it on your person or in the car during the crime.
• Brandishing: Pulling it out to intimidate.
• Discharge: Actually firing the weapon, which usually carries the heaviest mandatory minimum sentences.

A Note on Nuance: In "Constitutional Carry" states where no permit is required, the "voiding" of a permit doesn't apply, but the criminal enhancement for using a gun during a crime remains a powerful tool for prosecutors.

 

[citygator]

Everyone please notice that Pretti gets this for being a fully armed man wandering into a police situation who did not put his hands up immediately and declare that he was armed

Everyone please notice that this poster never gave this level of care for Laken Riley, raped and murdered WHILE JOGGING through a park, or for the poor woman in the subway murdered by a psychopath.

Unlike Pretti, both these women were ACTUALLY just peacefully living their lives, not making dumb decision after dumb decision that eventually got them killed.

We see you, Midol Man.

Laken Riley's murderer was ******* charged and convicted you disingenuous troglodyke. Alex's murderer is getting a ******* bonus.

What people want is criminals prosecuted and not state covered up executions. Crime is at an all time low in this country thanks to Joe Biden reducing the record crime rate passed to him by Trump.

Laken Riley's family received justice. Alex Pretti's family is waiting for justice.

You guys just dont get it. You just dont ******* get it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

BTW, it's a separate criminal offense when you bring a hand gun while committing a crime. Your carry permit is instantly voided.\

It's not a crime to film ICE on public streets/sidewalks.

And no, ICE approaching him, pushing him, and him trying to help a woman that ICE pushed is not a criminal offense.

WW

 

[SweetSue92]

Laken Riley's murderer was ******* charged and convicted you disingenuous troglodyke. Alex's murderer is getting a ******* bonus.

What people want is criminals prosecuted and not state covered up executions. Crime is at an all time low in this country thanks to Joe Biden reducing the record crime rate passed to him by Trump.

Laken Riley's family received justice. Alex Pretti's family is waiting for justice.

You guys just dont get it. You just dont ******* get it.

Laken Riley was jogging in a park, raped and murdered. You want to pass off that Pretti happened the very same way. It didn't. He was armed, he interfered in an active police situation.

Honey child you really, really need a heating pad and some Midol.

 

[SweetSue92]

It's not a crime to film ICE on public streets/sidewalks.

And no, ICE approaching him, pushing him, and him trying to help a woman that ICE pushed is not a criminal offense.

WW

No it's not. Notice no one bothered the one filming in the pink jacket, because this one didn't directly get involved in the police action.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Laken Riley's murderer was ******* charged and convicted you disingenuous troglodyke. Alex's murderer is getting a ******* bonus.

What people want is criminals prosecuted and not state covered up executions. Crime is at an all time low in this country thanks to Joe Biden reducing the record crime rate passed to him by Trump.

Laken Riley's family received justice. Alex Pretti's family is waiting for justice.

You guys just dont get it. You just dont ******* get it.

/------/ "You just dont ******* get it."
Oh, we get you. All things Bidum—GOOD. All things Trump—bad.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Laken Riley was jogging in a park, raped and murdered. You want to pass off that Pretti happened the very same way. It didn't. He was armed, he interfered in an active police situation.

Honey child you really, really need a heating pad and some Midol.

Her rapist was apprehended, charged, convicted, and is now serving life in prision.

If federal judge had to issue a temporary restraining order to get DOJ/DHS/FBI to preserve crime scene evidence.

WW

 

[SweetSue92]

Laken Riley's murderer was ******* charged and convicted you disingenuous troglodyke. Alex's murderer is getting a ******* bonus.

What people want is criminals prosecuted and not state covered up executions. Crime is at an all time low in this country thanks to Joe Biden reducing the record crime rate passed to him by Trump.

Laken Riley's family received justice. Alex Pretti's family is waiting for justice.

You guys just dont get it. You just dont ******* get it.

Hey Gator, what do you think the US Holocaust Museum would think about your PMS fueled comparison between Pretti and the einsatzgruppen??

Won't you tell us, you who accuse us of just "not getting it"

 

[SweetSue92]

Her rapist was apprehended, charged, convicted, and is now serving life in prision.

If federal judge had to issue a temporary restraining order to get DOJ/DHS/FBI to preserve crime scene evidence.

WW

SHE was murdered while minding her own business and living her life.

SHE did not insert herself into an active police situation, armed, without hands up and declaring the arms.

So please.

 

[Cellblock2429]

It's not a crime to film ICE on public streets/sidewalks.

And no, ICE approaching him, pushing him, and him trying to help a woman that ICE pushed is not a criminal offense.

WW

/----/ I don't know about you, but if a police officer or Fed agent orders me to stand back, I stand back. I don't argue, I don't push back, and I do as I'm told. And yes, I've been to protests in my younger days.

I bet you would do the same. That's why you and I are alive and Pretti and Good aren't.

 

[SweetSue92]

/----/ I don't know about you, but if a police officer or Fed agent orders me to stand back, I stand back. I don't argue, I don't push back, and I do as I'm told. And yes, I've been to protests in my younger days.

I bet you would do the same. That's why you and I are alive and Pretti and Good aren't.

Imagine going outside in these subzero temps in nothing but a t shirt and shorts and standing there for 30 minutes. You land in the hospital for hypothermia. Not many people wish hypothermia on you but we're all thinking "What the heck were you doing?".

These people want to reframe it as, this guy had a breakdown at the side of his road, wearing good winter gear. He wrapped himself in his emergency blanket but was still stranded for three hours, suffering hypothermia.

These two scenarios are not the same, everyone knows it, and that's why the idiot Leftists are drooling and crying all over the board.

 

[WorldWatcher]

SHE was murdered while minding her own business and living her life.

SHE did not insert herself into an active police situation, armed, without hands up and declaring the arms.

So please.

He didn't "insert himself". He was filming ICE in public.

He was helping a woman move AWAY from ICE. ICE then followed them across the street.

Her (Ripley) murderer was charged and convicted.

Do you support the same process for the officers that shot Pretti? Evidence presented in court, in context (not little snippets), a momenet by moment review of the whole situation, physical evidence presented, video evidence presented, testimony by witnesses, ballistics evidence, autopsy report, testimony by experts (for an against) the officer compliance with use of leathal force laws and policy.

Then let a jury decide, just like they did with Laken Riley.

A judge had to order the DOJ/DHS/FBI to preserve evidence.

WW