Enhanced Video/Pretti

[WorldWatcher]

OMG you need the Midol too apparently. Just to start, he was not "shot for filming ICE agents".....are you okay?

I'm perfectly fine.

I see you are reduced to personal insults.

LOL

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[SweetSue92]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances."

Right to peacefully assemble (which includes filming ICE in public) and to petition the government for redress of grievances (by collecting video evidence of their activities).

WW

Are you okay, seriously?

He wasn't "just filming". Note the person in the red who WAS "just filming" and was left alone.

He inserted himself. If you can't or won't see that, I suggest you really check your cognition.

 

[citygator]

He inserted himself in a police situation, which makes him distinctly UNLIKE Jews being dragged from their homes, shot in the head, and dumped in mass graves BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWISH

Remember when you got your first period and made that comparison?

1. You cant be shot for helping someone. At worst you can get arrested for interfering in an officers official duty but it was not the officer's official duty to push that woman down and then spray mace at her and Alex. He was never impeded. The woman was arrested for nothing. There was no crime being committed.
2. Jews were innocent. Alex was innocent. Nazi's thought Jews were NOT innocent. Nazi's think Alex was NOT innocent.

 

[SaxonJackson]

/----/ I don't know about you, but if a police officer or Fed agent orders me to stand back, I stand back. I don't argue, I don't push back, and I do as I'm told. And yes, I've been to protests in my younger days.

I bet you would do the same. That's why you and I are alive and Pretti and Good aren't.

Yup. Americans are supposed to fear the government and obey. It's what we've been programmed to do since childhood.

Unfortunately, that thought process spelled disaster for the Russians under Bolshevism or the Cambodians under Pol Pot. At some point, we're going to have to ask ourselves if a tyrannical Police State is acceptable or compatible within a Constitutional Republic.

Instead of "We The People" fearing the government, it seems to me that the government should fear "We The People."

 

[Hellokitty]

Her rapist was apprehended, charged, convicted, and is now serving life in prision.

If federal judge had to issue a temporary restraining order to get DOJ/DHS/FBI to preserve crime scene evidence.

WW

Her rapist/killer should have been deported on numerous occasions and Laken would still be alive.
Pretti, Good and the others obstructing ICE are protecting rapist/killers/drug/sex traffickers...

 

[Meathead]

You ******* moron.

HE HAD HIS PHONE IN HIS HAND.

HE DOESNT REACH TOWARD HIS BACK UNTIL HE IS SHOT IN THE BACK.

THE REASON THEY ARENT PLAYING THE SOUND WITH THE VIDEO YOU JUST SHOWED IS BECAUSE THE GUNSHOT GOES OFF AND HIS HAND GOES TO THE PAIN OF A BULLET TEARING INTO HIS BACK.

HE WAS SHOT 1 SECOND AFTER BEING DISARMED. WAS SHOT IN THE BACK. EVERYONE STARTS SCRAMBLING AWAY. HE WINCES REACHES HIS HAND TOWARD THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS SHOT. AND THEN GETS SHOT 9 MORE TIMES BY TWO GUYS.

THIS WAS A MURDER AND YOUR ATTEMPT TO LIE AND DISTORT WHAT HAPPENED IS MOTHERFUCKING CRUEL AS ****. ASSHOLE.

FAFO. The useful idiot got himself killed. The upside for him is he was far more useful dead for his idiotic cause of protecting pedos than he would be if he were alive.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yup. Americans are supposed to fear the government and obey. It's what we've been programmed to do since childhood.

Unfortunately, that thought process spelled disaster for the Russians under Bolshevism or the Cambodians under Pol Pot. At some point, we're going to have to ask ourselves if a tyrannical Police State is acceptable or compatible within a Constitutional Republic.

Instead of "We The People" fearing the government, it seems to me that the government should fear "We The People."

/----/ What a load of Hillary. Law-abiding citizens respect the law. Criminals fear the law as they should.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yet they didn't. The video shows Pretti (when approached by ICE officers) on the sidewalk, they walked up to HIM and shoved HIM.

WW

/-----/ Was there audio? Was Pretti ordered to do something, and he refused?

 

[d0gbreath]

I'm a bit surprised that an AI video clearly showing Alex Pretti pulling his gun and pointing it at an Ice agent's face hasn't surfaced yet. Maybe next week?

 

[BackAgain]

No it's not a "good synopsis video".

Pretti did not reach into his pocket, nor for his holster on his back (video shows this is where the officer removed his firearm).

What Pretti had in his right hand was the same object that officers had already been observing him with - his cell phone. The phone NEVER left that hand, his other hand, as the officers were manhandling him.

So Pretty was facing the ground, partiallty dragged up, cell phone in right hand, left hand on the ground when he was shot in the back.

WW

You aren’t seeing what is there but, ironically, seeing stuff that isn’t there.

 

[LibertyKid]

It's not a crime to film ICE on public streets/sidewalks.

And no, ICE approaching him, pushing him, and him trying to help a woman that ICE pushed is not a criminal offense.

WW

Who chose to go to the location ICE was at?
Who chose to go where ICE was located and then also armed themself?
Who chose to go where ICE was and NOT protest peacefully.
Who chose to interject himself physically with LEOs?

It's terrible that Pretti was killed. Truly it is. What happened is a circus of poor choices, even on ICE to engage as physically as they did.

We should however ask, what does ICE ultimately want to do. Remove illegal, criminals from our country. ICE would love to walk into a situation and be able to do their job. However, they are, in many blue ran states, confronted with their own citizens screaming at them, blowing whistles, interjecting themselves in many ways that leads to criminal obstruction. And unfortunately, we now have two cases, had both of these U.S. citizens had protested legally, they'd still be alive.

Yet they chose poorly.

 

[LibertyKid]

/-----/ Was there audio? Was Pretti ordered to do something, and he refused?

Logically, does that matter? He was engaging in obstruction which is illegal anyways. That's doesn't justify being killed, but that does create a situation with potentially bad outcomes that no one intended.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Who chose to go to the location ICE was at?

Citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

Who chose to go where ICE was located and then also armed themself?

One armed Citizen exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.

Who chose to go where ICE was and NOT protest peacefully.

The only once that initiated violence were the ICE agents.

Blowing a whistle and videoing ICE agents in public is not a crime, let alone a capital offense.

Who chose to interject himself physically with LEOs?

No one physically interjected themselves with ICE agents. As the videos show it was the ICE agents that initiated violent contact.

It's terrible that Pretti was killed.

Agreed.

Truly it is.

Agreed.

What happened is a circus of poor choices, even on ICE to engage as physically as they did.

The didn't engage ICE agents physically.

We should however ask, what does ICE ultimately want to do. Remove illegal, criminals from our country. ICE would love to walk into a situation and be able to do their job. However, they are, in many blue ran states, confronted with their own citizens screaming at them, blowing whistles, interjecting themselves in many ways that leads to criminal obstruction. And unfortunately, we now have two cases, had both of these U.S. citizens had protested legally, they'd still be alive.

Yet they chose poorly.

Actually at this point it appears that ICE agents along with their administration supervisors and department heads want to use ICE/BP as intimidation forces against civilians and opposition political forces.

If ICE/BP were acting in a professional manner instead of acting like assault swat teams and military wanna'bes we wouldn't be having these problems.

And yes, I support the deportation of illegal alien criminals (after they serve their time in prison) and illegal aliens that entered this country illegally. If they entered the country legally, then they should be given proper notice and allowed to depart on their own (then deported if they refuse to leave.)

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[OldFlame]

Her rapist was apprehended, charged, convicted, and is now serving life in prision.

If federal judge had to issue a temporary restraining order to get DOJ/DHS/FBI to preserve crime scene evidence.

WW

Her rapist was allowed into the country by a corrupt, out of control political party who is now fighting to keep all of the criminals they imported for the purpose of maintaining their power. That's all they and you care about, along with causing as much chaos as you can in an attempt to create scenarios for you to use towards that same end. You, nor your party give a damn about this country or the people legally living here.

 

[OldFlame]

Yet they didn't. The video shows Pretti (when approached by ICE officers) on the sidewalk, they walked up to HIM and shoved HIM.

WW

None of it took place on the sidewalk except perhaps the very beginning, he was in the middle of the street.

 

[WorldWatcher]

None of it took place on the sidewalk except perhaps the very beginning, he was in the middle of the street.

Watch the videos. He was in the street earlier, then was helping a woman leave the vicinity of the ICE agents.

Then the agents followed them.

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[Superbadbrutha]

Laken Riley was jogging in a park, raped and murdered. You want to pass off that Pretti happened the very same way. It didn't. He was armed, he interfered in an active police situation.

Honey child you really, really need a heating pad and some Midol.

So now you right wingers don't believe in the 2nd Amendment, was he illegally armed?

 

[skye]

This will be CNN by the weekend...

 

[SweetSue92]

So now you right wingers don't believe in the 2nd Amendment, was he illegally armed?

No, he wasn't. But if need to declare your gun when in a police situation. He didn't, and he got killed as a result. Terrible outcome, but not even in the same universe as Laken Riley

 

[WorldWatcher]

No, he wasn't. But if need to declare your gun when in a police situation. He didn't, and he got killed as a result. Terrible outcome, but not even in the same universe as Laken Riley

Minnesota does not have a "duty to inform" or "duty to declare" law requiring firearm owners to inform law enforcement upon interaction. They must inform an officer if asked, but they are not required to volunteer it.

WW

Sec. 624.714 MN Statutes

www.revisor.mn.gov