End of times?

[Gracie]

what do you know of dignity?

try reading the scriptures sometime. You might be surprises what you learn

I used to read fiction. Then I had an interesting life.

Now I focus on learning technical information that I can incorporate into my skillset.

I don't have enough time left to waste re-reading religious fiction.

I've been learning how to make stuff out of steel recently..purchased a couple of welders..made alliances with machine shops and metal suppliers.

The idea of constructing my own sawmill and buying some land with trees and a stream on it fascinates me. A well thought out comfortable mountain cabin and on site machine shop and big garage to assemble big stuff..hydro power generation..room for an airstrip.. Big toys I built for myself.. Mobile welding and repair for extra cash ..throw in some manufacturing.. with a rock bottom overhead. I am currently in the proccess of converting my VW bus into a mobile welding and repair vehicle. Already own a couple of top quality 7,000 watt generators. There is still good land up here in the NW for 5-8 thousand an acre within 20 minutes to civilization.

These are my interests now. Your bible would just be a serious waste of my time. I can already do a lot of things your Jesus couldn't even dream of.

can you build a planet? Till you can I highly doubt you can back your claim up.

No person can build a planet..including your Jesus. No imaginary sky fairy can build a planet either. You grossly overestimate the capabilities of your wishful interpretation of some old wives tales that made it onto some old scrolls and were cherry picked by a Roman commission for your religion's guidance over 2 ,000 years ago. I am under no obligation to honor your fairy tales. If WE have any hope of a responsible dialogue you need to converse in language representing what is possible by today's standards and not expect I will cosign your delusion.

I don't argue with crazy people.

God didn't build a planet. He spoke it into existence. Jesus Christ is the Word of God that became flesh and dwelt among men. Read the first chapter of the Gospel of John.

God's ways are higher than your ways, Huggy. How can you believe when you reject the One in whom you must believe first?

Here. This is for you, Huggy:

1 Corinthians 1 19 For it is written I will destroy the wisdom of the wise the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.

Put a sock in it Sparky. I don't share your fascination for 2000 year old fairy tales. I live in the here and now. I wouldn't be sitting here at the puter if it wasn't friggin freezing cold outside and down on the first floor of the motel. In here it's comfy and cozy. I'm having a hard time getting worked up enough to risk my old bones on going down and working on replacing the swiss cheese floor pan of my 69 VW bus. I really need to make the driving area waterproof as I have further plans to use the vehicle in all kinds of weather. But like I said it's very cold outside. Hard to get motivated. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing this. BUT given the choice between frostbite and re-reading that old bullshit I would gladly loose my fingertips to the elements.

You people don't get it do you. Nobody with half a brain wants to muse over the nonsense you people are brainwashed into believing.

Yet....here you are...musing over the topic that you call nonsense. And...do name the "nobodies". Oh. Wait. That would be you, wouldn't it?

 

[HUGGY]

I used to read fiction. Then I had an interesting life.

Now I focus on learning technical information that I can incorporate into my skillset.

I don't have enough time left to waste re-reading religious fiction.

I've been learning how to make stuff out of steel recently..purchased a couple of welders..made alliances with machine shops and metal suppliers.

The idea of constructing my own sawmill and buying some land with trees and a stream on it fascinates me. A well thought out comfortable mountain cabin and on site machine shop and big garage to assemble big stuff..hydro power generation..room for an airstrip.. Big toys I built for myself.. Mobile welding and repair for extra cash ..throw in some manufacturing.. with a rock bottom overhead. I am currently in the proccess of converting my VW bus into a mobile welding and repair vehicle. Already own a couple of top quality 7,000 watt generators. There is still good land up here in the NW for 5-8 thousand an acre within 20 minutes to civilization.

These are my interests now. Your bible would just be a serious waste of my time. I can already do a lot of things your Jesus couldn't even dream of.

can you build a planet? Till you can I highly doubt you can back your claim up.

No person can build a planet..including your Jesus. No imaginary sky fairy can build a planet either. You grossly overestimate the capabilities of your wishful interpretation of some old wives tales that made it onto some old scrolls and were cherry picked by a Roman commission for your religion's guidance over 2 ,000 years ago. I am under no obligation to honor your fairy tales. If WE have any hope of a responsible dialogue you need to converse in language representing what is possible by today's standards and not expect I will cosign your delusion.

I don't argue with crazy people.

God didn't build a planet. He spoke it into existence. Jesus Christ is the Word of God that became flesh and dwelt among men. Read the first chapter of the Gospel of John.

God's ways are higher than your ways, Huggy. How can you believe when you reject the One in whom you must believe first?

Here. This is for you, Huggy:

1 Corinthians 1 19 For it is written I will destroy the wisdom of the wise the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.

Put a sock in it Sparky. I don't share your fascination for 2000 year old fairy tales. I live in the here and now. I wouldn't be sitting here at the puter if it wasn't friggin freezing cold outside and down on the first floor of the motel. In here it's comfy and cozy. I'm having a hard time getting worked up enough to risk my old bones on going down and working on replacing the swiss cheese floor pan of my 69 VW bus. I really need to make the driving area waterproof as I have further plans to use the vehicle in all kinds of weather. But like I said it's very cold outside. Hard to get motivated. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing this. BUT given the choice between frostbite and re-reading that old bullshit I would gladly loose my fingertips to the elements.

You people don't get it do you. Nobody with half a brain wants to muse over the nonsense you people are brainwashed into believing.

Yet....here you are...musing over the topic that you call nonsense. And...do name the "nobodies". Oh. Wait. That would be you, wouldn't it?

Like I said... It's too cold to go out and do something productive..

Oh !!! Wait !!! It's God's mysterious ways MAKING it cold in Seattle today so I would be up here at the computer reading and replying to this thread .. !!!!!!

OMG !!!!

How Miss tear EEEEEE ous !!!!

That God is a twicky some biatch !!!

 

[Dajjal]

There IS an end of Times. of sorts... Everyone gets one. When you die..it's OVER...FINISHED!!! THE END !!!

I went to spiritualist churches from the late 1960's to the 1990's and I attended many trance lectures at the spiritualist association in London. In all that time I have many evidential messages from dead relatives, and some of them were totally accurate, about things the medium could not have known. For example I once had a message from a dead brother that died as a baby in the war, and my mother had never told me about it. My mother was not a spiritualist and she had never been to the church, but when I asked her about the baby she admitted it was true. I also had many messages from my grandparents who told me things about themselves that the medium could not have known. Added to that I have had personal psychic experiences that tell me that among other things, telepathy is a reality.

If you think I am duped because I want to believe in an after life, then I can tell you I have not had so much of a good time in life that I want it to go on after death. But the evidence I have had tells me it probably does.

 

[HUGGY]

There IS an end of Times. of sorts... Everyone gets one. When you die..it's OVER...FINISHED!!! THE END !!!

I went to spiritualist churches from the late 1960's to the 1990's and I attended many trance lectures at the spiritualist association in London. In all that time I have many evidential messages from dead relatives, and some of them were totally accurate, about things the medium could not have known. For example I once had a message from a dead brother that died as a baby in the war, and my mother had never told me about it. My mother was not a spiritualist and she had never been to the church, but when I asked her about the baby she admitted it was true. I also had many messages from my grandparents who told me things about themselves that the medium could not have known. Added to that I have had personal psychic experiences that tell me that among other things, telepathy is a reality.

If you think I am duped because I want to believe in an after life, then I can tell you I have not had so much of a good time in life that I want it to go on after death. But the evidence I have had tells me it probably does.

Evidence? Ya right. Your criteria for what you call evidence is wishful cognizance. It's hardly convincing to me. It is certainly nothing that would make me want to throw away everything I know. I feel sorry for you that you have wasted your life by design or circumstance. If it is so bad why don't you suck on a 9 MM and get on with the next thing? If from what you seem to say it's not really like suicide is it? It's just leaving this horrible existence behind for nirvana. No.. Maybe you should just suck up yourself by the gonads and stop whining. This is all you get. There is no magical la la land where your relatives are giving you helpful advice. That's shear bullshit. If you think it's so real then get em to give you a couple of winning LOTTO numbers and believe me everything will turn around for you.

 

[Dajjal]

There IS an end of Times. of sorts... Everyone gets one. When you die..it's OVER...FINISHED!!! THE END !!!

I went to spiritualist churches from the late 1960's to the 1990's and I attended many trance lectures at the spiritualist association in London. In all that time I have many evidential messages from dead relatives, and some of them were totally accurate, about things the medium could not have known. For example I once had a message from a dead brother that died as a baby in the war, and my mother had never told me about it. My mother was not a spiritualist and she had never been to the church, but when I asked her about the baby she admitted it was true. I also had many messages from my grandparents who told me things about themselves that the medium could not have known. Added to that I have had personal psychic experiences that tell me that among other things, telepathy is a reality.

If you think I am duped because I want to believe in an after life, then I can tell you I have not had so much of a good time in life that I want it to go on after death. But the evidence I have had tells me it probably does.

Evidence? Ya right. Your criteria for what you call evidence is wishful cognizance. It's hardly convincing to me. It is certainly nothing that would make me want to throw away everything I know. I feel sorry for you that you have wasted your life by design or circumstance. If it is so bad why don't you suck on a 9 MM and get on with the next thing? If from what you seem to say it's not really like suicide is it? It's just leaving this horrible existence behind for nirvana. No.. Maybe you should just suck up yourself by the gonads and stop whining. This is all you get. There is no magical la la land where your relatives are giving you helpful advice. That's shear bullshit. If you think it's so real then get em to give you a couple of winning LOTTO numbers and believe me everything will turn around for you.

You will not believe this but they did give me 5 winning lotto numbers in 1998, I felt a presence when I was picking the numbers and it guided me to pick 5 out of 6. I heard a voice saying "help is coming from an unexpected source" Because I was desperate to get enough money to buy a good computer and had no prospects at that time. On the day of the draw I picked up the ticket one hour before the draw and thought to my self, "maybe its worth a fortune, fat chance" and I threw the ticket down. Just as I did that the same female voice said "you won" and an hour later I won 5 numbers which was enough to buy a good computer and pay off my credit cards.

I have done the lottery ever since hoping they would give me a 6 number win but knowing all the while that they will not because it would be bad karma.

 

[Avatar4321]

the age of grace will be done soon, very soon- all the signs are there; nothing else needs to happen before the pretrib rapture. The reason it is so important to get the word out is because once Believer's are raptured; that is it- no second chance to be saved for those that have heard His Word and denied it/Him.

The devil's biggest lie is you can choose Christ tom. TODAY is the day of salvation.

the dispensation of grace ended a while ago. We live in the dispensation of the fullness of times when Paul said God would gather all things in one.

and He is. He is gathering the House of Israel throughout the world. He is gathering the knowledge of the world together. He has made communication and travel so easy for us that we are becoming a single global community.

and he has started gathering the scriptures He has revealed to men together.

most importantly He has restored the keys that have been held in previous dispensations to man. As well as the knowledge of those people. And He is doing this all to prepare for the return of Christ.

we live in a day and age the prophets of old dreamt of and we take it for granted

 

[Avatar4321]

Faith is one of the easiest senses to take advantage of.

What I find astonishing is that nowadays with so much interaction amongst the religions that those of faith haven't noticed that those of EVERY religion believe they know the truth. They have faith they are not being decieved.

Hells Bells! I know people that have faith in what they witnessed in those Las Vegas magic shows is real.

I can sort of understand that when people were far less educated it was easy to take a rumor or someone's word that something extraordinary was done or seen or heard.

But now that we have a more realistic idea of what human beings are capable of even the story of going up on a mountain peak and getting stone tablets directly from god is rediculous beyond the pale.

I get it..the Jews needed a good kick in the pants because they were in the very real danger of extinction. So Moses had an epiphany.. "what if I sneak some tablets with me and go up on that yonder tall hill and bring em back with a straight face... " Ya...Ya...Ya... People were vulnerable and the story sounded good. They were at their wits end.

I believe that Jesus took a page outta Moses playbook realising that the Jews had become scoundrels and had just turned the "god story" into a way to get rich. What he learned was that the ends justifies he means. I mean who was he hurting? The people of the day DID need a better path towards becoming better human beings.

He didn't have to go very far to find people that had been abused. He didn't have to look very hard for the sick, the poor that had no options. What did they have to lose?

Face it..back then life was a stinking flaming sack of dog poop.

So NOW with everything we have learned and the super soft lives we live ..even our homeless have it WAY better than the average Joe of Jesus's day. Nobody gets lanced whenever a soldier feels like it.. etc..

So NOW we are spozed to believe that living sucks so bad that we are near the end?

Just HOW stupid are you folks? I can almost buy why ya'll believe in heaven and all that hogwash.. It is because you are weak ass pussies that cannot face your last beath with any personal dignity. You whiners WANT to believe that daddy god and Jesus are going to give you some fantastic extension ...not for a few years BUT for friggin eternity...That's right ..ETERNITY... just for mumbling a few words???? Perfect!!!

WOW! Just WOW!

It's a good thing I don't care what you think of me... I still can't get over what little you think of yourselves.

what do you know of dignity?

try reading the scriptures sometime. You might be surprises what you learn

I used to read fiction. Then I had an interesting life.

Now I focus on learning technical information that I can incorporate into my skillset.

I don't have enough time left to waste re-reading religious fiction.

I've been learning how to make stuff out of steel recently..purchased a couple of welders..made alliances with machine shops and metal suppliers.

The idea of constructing my own sawmill and buying some land with trees and a stream on it fascinates me. A well thought out comfortable mountain cabin and on site machine shop and big garage to assemble big stuff..hydro power generation..room for an airstrip.. Big toys I built for myself.. Mobile welding and repair for extra cash ..throw in some manufacturing.. with a rock bottom overhead. I am currently in the proccess of converting my VW bus into a mobile welding and repair vehicle. Already own a couple of top quality 7,000 watt generators. There is still good land up here in the NW for 5-8 thousand an acre within 20 minutes to civilization.

These are my interests now. Your bible would just be a serious waste of my time. I can already do a lot of things your Jesus couldn't even dream of.

can you build a planet? Till you can I highly doubt you can back your claim up.

No person can build a planet..including your Jesus. No imaginary sky fairy can build a planet either. You grossly overestimate the capabilities of your wishful interpretation of some old wives tales that made it onto some old scrolls and were cherry picked by a Roman commission for your religion's guidance over 2 ,000 years ago. I am under no obligation to honor your fairy tales. If WE have any hope of a responsible dialogue you need to converse in language representing what is possible by today's standards and not expect I will cosign your delusion.

I don't argue with crazy people.

and yet He did build THIS planet.

your skillset may be impressive but it's nothing compared with Gods. The day will come when we will all stand before Him and give an account for our lives. You will have to tell Him what you did with the skills He blesses you with. I hope you are prepared for that.

and I've never asked you to read fiction. The scriptures are quite true and teach skills as well.

 

[HUGGY]

End of times?? or Best of times??? You be the judge !!!

I just come here to see the crazy talk

 

[ninja007]

the age of grace will be done soon, very soon- all the signs are there; nothing else needs to happen before the pretrib rapture. The reason it is so important to get the word out is because once Believer's are raptured; that is it- no second chance to be saved for those that have heard His Word and denied it/Him.

The devil's biggest lie is you can choose Christ tom. TODAY is the day of salvation.

the dispensation of grace ended a while ago. We live in the dispensation of the fullness of times when Paul said God would gather all things in one.

and He is. He is gathering the House of Israel throughout the world. He is gathering the knowledge of the world together. He has made communication and travel so easy for us that we are becoming a single global community.

and he has started gathering the scriptures He has revealed to men together.

most importantly He has restored the keys that have been held in previous dispensations to man. As well as the knowledge of those people. And He is doing this all to prepare for the return of Christ.

we live in a day and age the prophets of old dreamt of and we take it for granted

lol, no. Show me in the bible where that is.

 

[BULLDOG]

Our Creator can make His people believe in any illusions He forms for them to observe.

Why would our creator bother to create illusions to deceive people?

Excellent question, but I can one up you - Why would anybody believe anything from a poster that has the balls, ego, and pride to call himself, "the word?"

Psalm 41
5: My enemies say of me in malice: "When will he die, and his name perish?"
6: And when one comes to see me, he utters empty words, while his heart gathers mischief; when he goes out, he tells it abroad.
7: All who hate me whisper together about me; they imagine the worst for me.

I guess paranoia was a problem for religious nuts back then too......

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It is interesting that the same people who were preaching Doomsday scenarios when it was politically convenient now deride Endtimes scenarios because they are being preached by the opposition.

I am not going to read this whole thread. I started a thread about the Revelation a while ago but only the nuts seemed interested. There is one thing that every single prophet of doom, destruction, and the end of times has in common. Every last one of them to a single person has been utterly, indisputably and completely wrong, You would have thought the Great Disappointment of 1844 would have taught us something.

But they're very good at fleecing the gullible flock.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Our Creator can make His people believe in any illusions He forms for them to observe.

Why would our creator bother to create illusions to deceive people?

Excellent question, but I can one up you - Why would anybody believe anything from a poster that has the balls, ego, and pride to call himself, "the word?"

He doesn't just call himself the word. He thinks He is God

There's a lot of that on this board.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Our Creator can make His people believe in any illusions He forms for them to observe.

Why would our creator bother to create illusions to deceive people?

Excellent question, but I can one up you - Why would anybody believe anything from a poster that has the balls, ego, and pride to call himself, "the word?"

He doesn't just call himself the word. He thinks He is God

Gossip leads to more gossip. Isn't gossip a sin according to Christians?

What does your heart tell you?

My heart tells me to skip his posts.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Faith is one of the easiest senses to take advantage of.

What I find astonishing is that nowadays with so much interaction amongst the religions that those of faith haven't noticed that those of EVERY religion believe they know the truth. They have faith they are not being decieved.

Hells Bells! I know people that have faith in what they witnessed in those Las Vegas magic shows is real.

I can sort of understand that when people were far less educated it was easy to take a rumor or someone's word that something extraordinary was done or seen or heard.

But now that we have a more realistic idea of what human beings are capable of even the story of going up on a mountain peak and getting stone tablets directly from god is rediculous beyond the pale.

I get it..the Jews needed a good kick in the pants because they were in the very real danger of extinction. So Moses had an epiphany.. "what if I sneak some tablets with me and go up on that yonder tall hill and bring em back with a straight face... " Ya...Ya...Ya... People were vulnerable and the story sounded good. They were at their wits end.

I believe that Jesus took a page outta Moses playbook realising that the Jews had become scoundrels and had just turned the "god story" into a way to get rich. What he learned was that the ends justifies he means. I mean who was he hurting? The people of the day DID need a better path towards becoming better human beings.

He didn't have to go very far to find people that had been abused. He didn't have to look very hard for the sick, the poor that had no options. What did they have to lose?

Face it..back then life was a stinking flaming sack of dog poop.

So NOW with everything we have learned and the super soft lives we live ..even our homeless have it WAY better than the average Joe of Jesus's day. Nobody gets lanced whenever a soldier feels like it.. etc..

So NOW we are spozed to believe that living sucks so bad that we are near the end?

Just HOW stupid are you folks? I can almost buy why ya'll believe in heaven and all that hogwash.. It is because you are weak ass pussies that cannot face your last beath with any personal dignity. You whiners WANT to believe that daddy god and Jesus are going to give you some fantastic extension ...not for a few years BUT for friggin eternity...That's right ..ETERNITY... just for mumbling a few words???? Perfect!!!

WOW! Just WOW!

It's a good thing I don't care what you think of me... I still can't get over what little you think of yourselves.

what do you know of dignity?

try reading the scriptures sometime. You might be surprises what you learn

I used to read fiction. Then I had an interesting life.

Now I focus on learning technical information that I can incorporate into my skillset.

I don't have enough time left to waste re-reading religious fiction.

I've been learning how to make stuff out of steel recently..purchased a couple of welders..made alliances with machine shops and metal suppliers.

The idea of constructing my own sawmill and buying some land with trees and a stream on it fascinates me. A well thought out comfortable mountain cabin and on site machine shop and big garage to assemble big stuff..hydro power generation..room for an airstrip.. Big toys I built for myself.. Mobile welding and repair for extra cash ..throw in some manufacturing.. with a rock bottom overhead. I am currently in the proccess of converting my VW bus into a mobile welding and repair vehicle. Already own a couple of top quality 7,000 watt generators. There is still good land up here in the NW for 5-8 thousand an acre within 20 minutes to civilization.

These are my interests now. Your bible would just be a serious waste of my time. I can already do a lot of things your Jesus couldn't even dream of.

can you build a planet? Till you can I highly doubt you can back your claim up.

Building a planet is nuthin'.

OTOH, building an invisible planet, like Kolob - now that's just downright unbelievable.

 

[HUGGY]

Faith is one of the easiest senses to take advantage of.

What I find astonishing is that nowadays with so much interaction amongst the religions that those of faith haven't noticed that those of EVERY religion believe they know the truth. They have faith they are not being decieved.

Hells Bells! I know people that have faith in what they witnessed in those Las Vegas magic shows is real.

I can sort of understand that when people were far less educated it was easy to take a rumor or someone's word that something extraordinary was done or seen or heard.

But now that we have a more realistic idea of what human beings are capable of even the story of going up on a mountain peak and getting stone tablets directly from god is rediculous beyond the pale.

I get it..the Jews needed a good kick in the pants because they were in the very real danger of extinction. So Moses had an epiphany.. "what if I sneak some tablets with me and go up on that yonder tall hill and bring em back with a straight face... " Ya...Ya...Ya... People were vulnerable and the story sounded good. They were at their wits end.

I believe that Jesus took a page outta Moses playbook realising that the Jews had become scoundrels and had just turned the "god story" into a way to get rich. What he learned was that the ends justifies he means. I mean who was he hurting? The people of the day DID need a better path towards becoming better human beings.

He didn't have to go very far to find people that had been abused. He didn't have to look very hard for the sick, the poor that had no options. What did they have to lose?

Face it..back then life was a stinking flaming sack of dog poop.

So NOW with everything we have learned and the super soft lives we live ..even our homeless have it WAY better than the average Joe of Jesus's day. Nobody gets lanced whenever a soldier feels like it.. etc..

So NOW we are spozed to believe that living sucks so bad that we are near the end?

Just HOW stupid are you folks? I can almost buy why ya'll believe in heaven and all that hogwash.. It is because you are weak ass pussies that cannot face your last beath with any personal dignity. You whiners WANT to believe that daddy god and Jesus are going to give you some fantastic extension ...not for a few years BUT for friggin eternity...That's right ..ETERNITY... just for mumbling a few words???? Perfect!!!

WOW! Just WOW!

It's a good thing I don't care what you think of me... I still can't get over what little you think of yourselves.

what do you know of dignity?

try reading the scriptures sometime. You might be surprises what you learn

I used to read fiction. Then I had an interesting life.

Now I focus on learning technical information that I can incorporate into my skillset.

I don't have enough time left to waste re-reading religious fiction.

I've been learning how to make stuff out of steel recently..purchased a couple of welders..made alliances with machine shops and metal suppliers.

The idea of constructing my own sawmill and buying some land with trees and a stream on it fascinates me. A well thought out comfortable mountain cabin and on site machine shop and big garage to assemble big stuff..hydro power generation..room for an airstrip.. Big toys I built for myself.. Mobile welding and repair for extra cash ..throw in some manufacturing.. with a rock bottom overhead. I am currently in the proccess of converting my VW bus into a mobile welding and repair vehicle. Already own a couple of top quality 7,000 watt generators. There is still good land up here in the NW for 5-8 thousand an acre within 20 minutes to civilization.

These are my interests now. Your bible would just be a serious waste of my time. I can already do a lot of things your Jesus couldn't even dream of.

can you build a planet? Till you can I highly doubt you can back your claim up.

Building a planet is nuthin'.

OTOH, building an invisible planet, like Kolob - now that's just downright unbelievable.

That's whut's so endearing with U real igitsists .. you all have these fantastic stories that you believe to the letter ...to the last grain of sand on your made up planets yet find fault with somebody elzez made up planets.

From the outside looking in I have to say I can't tell the differents from the difference.

 

[BluePhantom]

I hate reading about dumb shit know it all about what they believe about the end of times and that includes the book of revelation, because nobody knows when it will happen or if we are close. What us Christians do know is that everyday we are supposed to be in the word, think about god, and be good disciples of Christ by being a walking example of Christ the best we can with love.

All you idiots in this thread need to wake the **** up to this and stop this thread.

Well I am about to crash out. I am beyond the point of expending much energy into this anymore. But I will say that I tend to agree with you. No one knows. What Daniel, The Apocalypse, Jesus (Matthew 24:34), Joseph Smith, William Miller, Hal Lindsay, the Apostle Paul, the Watchtower, and every single person who has predicted the end of the world since the beginning of time all have in common is that every single one of them has been 100%, completely, totally, ridiculously, and unfathomably wrong. In fact none of them have even come close.

You are absolutely correct about living in the Word, being good stewards, etc. The "beware, beware the end is near" stuff has about as much credibility Obama on government transparency and the only people who buy into it are fanaticals and there is no talking sense to them anyhow.

That being said how many people of any religion truly "walk in the Word"? I count myself blessed to have met two (myself not included) who truly accept without judgement, and who "hate the sin and not the sinner"? I paraphrase Ghandi when he said "I love Jesus, He is fantastic. I wish Christians would listen to Him". You have to admit, Christianity, from its conception to the modern age, has not exactly been the bastion of "let me be the example"

I agree with you completely. I've been a Christian for 19 years I'm happy to say and I learned long ago that there is 1 judge that matters and that is God. Referenced in the bible many times for a reason. not many Christians read the bible and that is problem that leads to others.

Christ is the untimate example of how a person should strive to be. Knowing that why waste your time trying to be like someone else? Nothing will make you happier and satisfied like Christ will. The key thing that makes this end of times predicting crap is it makes what i call the bible thumpers who are desperate because they think the end of times is near or they know when it will be preach the gospel out of fear. Not LOVE. If I was going to tell a Christian or a non believer anything it will be showing them Christs love for everybody even people that man would say is unredeemable or lost. No ones ever lost. Christ saved the man who cried out for forgiveness who was dying on the cross right next to him. Guess what happened to the other guy who denied him? Christ was the perfect example to the very end of his life and even after death.

Well you know it's about power. Don't you agree? Teaching an Apocalyptic message gives power over those who believe it because it terrifies them into behaving the way someone wants them to behave. It is about controlling the actions of people and not fostering a true communion with God. In my opinion a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience". They may answer questions about their own "God experience" but they don't interfere with another's path. That is between them and God.

 

[HUGGY]

I hate reading about dumb shit know it all about what they believe about the end of times and that includes the book of revelation, because nobody knows when it will happen or if we are close. What us Christians do know is that everyday we are supposed to be in the word, think about god, and be good disciples of Christ by being a walking example of Christ the best we can with love.

All you idiots in this thread need to wake the **** up to this and stop this thread.

Well I am about to crash out. I am beyond the point of expending much energy into this anymore. But I will say that I tend to agree with you. No one knows. What Daniel, The Apocalypse, Jesus (Matthew 24:34), Joseph Smith, William Miller, Hal Lindsay, the Apostle Paul, the Watchtower, and every single person who has predicted the end of the world since the beginning of time all have in common is that every single one of them has been 100%, completely, totally, ridiculously, and unfathomably wrong. In fact none of them have even come close.

You are absolutely correct about living in the Word, being good stewards, etc. The "beware, beware the end is near" stuff has about as much credibility Obama on government transparency and the only people who buy into it are fanaticals and there is no talking sense to them anyhow.

That being said how many people of any religion truly "walk in the Word"? I count myself blessed to have met two (myself not included) who truly accept without judgement, and who "hate the sin and not the sinner"? I paraphrase Ghandi when he said "I love Jesus, He is fantastic. I wish Christians would listen to Him". You have to admit, Christianity, from its conception to the modern age, has not exactly been the bastion of "let me be the example"

I agree with you completely. I've been a Christian for 19 years I'm happy to say and I learned long ago that there is 1 judge that matters and that is God. Referenced in the bible many times for a reason. not many Christians read the bible and that is problem that leads to others.

Christ is the untimate example of how a person should strive to be. Knowing that why waste your time trying to be like someone else? Nothing will make you happier and satisfied like Christ will. The key thing that makes this end of times predicting crap is it makes what i call the bible thumpers who are desperate because they think the end of times is near or they know when it will be preach the gospel out of fear. Not LOVE. If I was going to tell a Christian or a non believer anything it will be showing them Christs love for everybody even people that man would say is unredeemable or lost. No ones ever lost. Christ saved the man who cried out for forgiveness who was dying on the cross right next to him. Guess what happened to the other guy who denied him? Christ was the perfect example to the very end of his life and even after death.

Well you know it's about power. Don't you agree? Teaching an Apocalyptic message gives power over those who believe it because it terrifies them into behaving the way someone wants them to behave. It is about controlling the actions of people and not fostering a true communion with God. In my opinion a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience". They may answer questions about their own "God experience" but they don't interfere with another's path. That is between them and God.

Damn I just laughed so hard I spit up my coffee throuh my nose and on my laptop keyboard... Good one !

"a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience"."

You guys crack me up. That's all ANY of you do is try to infest other peoples lives with your nonsense. It's your sworn duty.

 

[Judicial review]

I hate reading about dumb shit know it all about what they believe about the end of times and that includes the book of revelation, because nobody knows when it will happen or if we are close. What us Christians do know is that everyday we are supposed to be in the word, think about god, and be good disciples of Christ by being a walking example of Christ the best we can with love.

All you idiots in this thread need to wake the **** up to this and stop this thread.

Well I am about to crash out. I am beyond the point of expending much energy into this anymore. But I will say that I tend to agree with you. No one knows. What Daniel, The Apocalypse, Jesus (Matthew 24:34), Joseph Smith, William Miller, Hal Lindsay, the Apostle Paul, the Watchtower, and every single person who has predicted the end of the world since the beginning of time all have in common is that every single one of them has been 100%, completely, totally, ridiculously, and unfathomably wrong. In fact none of them have even come close.

You are absolutely correct about living in the Word, being good stewards, etc. The "beware, beware the end is near" stuff has about as much credibility Obama on government transparency and the only people who buy into it are fanaticals and there is no talking sense to them anyhow.

That being said how many people of any religion truly "walk in the Word"? I count myself blessed to have met two (myself not included) who truly accept without judgement, and who "hate the sin and not the sinner"? I paraphrase Ghandi when he said "I love Jesus, He is fantastic. I wish Christians would listen to Him". You have to admit, Christianity, from its conception to the modern age, has not exactly been the bastion of "let me be the example"

I agree with you completely. I've been a Christian for 19 years I'm happy to say and I learned long ago that there is 1 judge that matters and that is God. Referenced in the bible many times for a reason. not many Christians read the bible and that is problem that leads to others.

Christ is the untimate example of how a person should strive to be. Knowing that why waste your time trying to be like someone else? Nothing will make you happier and satisfied like Christ will. The key thing that makes this end of times predicting crap is it makes what i call the bible thumpers who are desperate because they think the end of times is near or they know when it will be preach the gospel out of fear. Not LOVE. If I was going to tell a Christian or a non believer anything it will be showing them Christs love for everybody even people that man would say is unredeemable or lost. No ones ever lost. Christ saved the man who cried out for forgiveness who was dying on the cross right next to him. Guess what happened to the other guy who denied him? Christ was the perfect example to the very end of his life and even after death.

Well you know it's about power. Don't you agree? Teaching an Apocalyptic message gives power over those who believe it because it terrifies them into behaving the way someone wants them to behave. It is about controlling the actions of people and not fostering a true communion with God. In my opinion a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience". They may answer questions about their own "God experience" but they don't interfere with another's path. That is between them and God.

Damn I just laughed so hard I spit up my coffee throuh my nose and on my laptop keyboard... Good one !

"a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience"."

You guys crack me up. That's all ANY of you do is try to infest other peoples lives with your nonsense. It's your sworn duty.

A good Christian church will preach about how in the bible it says clearly that God gives us the freedom of choice to sin or to not sin. Any good church wont try to intervien in it's member lives or have Guidlines other than what's in the king james bible, which is Gods word. Which states this. We are supposed to judge the sin not the sinners, and god tells us what sin is in the bible. There's only 1 judge and that is God himself. Anybody else that judges should be looked down upon.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I hate reading about dumb shit know it all about what they believe about the end of times and that includes the book of revelation, because nobody knows when it will happen or if we are close. What us Christians do know is that everyday we are supposed to be in the word, think about god, and be good disciples of Christ by being a walking example of Christ the best we can with love.

All you idiots in this thread need to wake the **** up to this and stop this thread.

Well I am about to crash out. I am beyond the point of expending much energy into this anymore. But I will say that I tend to agree with you. No one knows. What Daniel, The Apocalypse, Jesus (Matthew 24:34), Joseph Smith, William Miller, Hal Lindsay, the Apostle Paul, the Watchtower, and every single person who has predicted the end of the world since the beginning of time all have in common is that every single one of them has been 100%, completely, totally, ridiculously, and unfathomably wrong. In fact none of them have even come close.

You are absolutely correct about living in the Word, being good stewards, etc. The "beware, beware the end is near" stuff has about as much credibility Obama on government transparency and the only people who buy into it are fanaticals and there is no talking sense to them anyhow.

That being said how many people of any religion truly "walk in the Word"? I count myself blessed to have met two (myself not included) who truly accept without judgement, and who "hate the sin and not the sinner"? I paraphrase Ghandi when he said "I love Jesus, He is fantastic. I wish Christians would listen to Him". You have to admit, Christianity, from its conception to the modern age, has not exactly been the bastion of "let me be the example"

I agree with you completely. I've been a Christian for 19 years I'm happy to say and I learned long ago that there is 1 judge that matters and that is God. Referenced in the bible many times for a reason. not many Christians read the bible and that is problem that leads to others.

Christ is the untimate example of how a person should strive to be. Knowing that why waste your time trying to be like someone else? Nothing will make you happier and satisfied like Christ will. The key thing that makes this end of times predicting crap is it makes what i call the bible thumpers who are desperate because they think the end of times is near or they know when it will be preach the gospel out of fear. Not LOVE. If I was going to tell a Christian or a non believer anything it will be showing them Christs love for everybody even people that man would say is unredeemable or lost. No ones ever lost. Christ saved the man who cried out for forgiveness who was dying on the cross right next to him. Guess what happened to the other guy who denied him? Christ was the perfect example to the very end of his life and even after death.

Well you know it's about power. Don't you agree? Teaching an Apocalyptic message gives power over those who believe it because it terrifies them into behaving the way someone wants them to behave. It is about controlling the actions of people and not fostering a true communion with God. In my opinion a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience". They may answer questions about their own "God experience" but they don't interfere with another's path. That is between them and God.

Damn I just laughed so hard I spit up my coffee throuh my nose and on my laptop keyboard... Good one !

"a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience"."

You guys crack me up. That's all ANY of you do is try to infest other peoples lives with your nonsense. It's your sworn duty.

That one cracked me up too.

Maybe he hasn't read all the preaching and screeching that goes on here.

Heck, maybe this board (and my front porch) is the only place where that preaching and screeching goes on.

Oh yeah, and that hospital waiting room where Jeremiah pinned people down to listen to her spiel.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I hate reading about dumb shit know it all about what they believe about the end of times and that includes the book of revelation, because nobody knows when it will happen or if we are close. What us Christians do know is that everyday we are supposed to be in the word, think about god, and be good disciples of Christ by being a walking example of Christ the best we can with love.

All you idiots in this thread need to wake the **** up to this and stop this thread.

Well I am about to crash out. I am beyond the point of expending much energy into this anymore. But I will say that I tend to agree with you. No one knows. What Daniel, The Apocalypse, Jesus (Matthew 24:34), Joseph Smith, William Miller, Hal Lindsay, the Apostle Paul, the Watchtower, and every single person who has predicted the end of the world since the beginning of time all have in common is that every single one of them has been 100%, completely, totally, ridiculously, and unfathomably wrong. In fact none of them have even come close.

You are absolutely correct about living in the Word, being good stewards, etc. The "beware, beware the end is near" stuff has about as much credibility Obama on government transparency and the only people who buy into it are fanaticals and there is no talking sense to them anyhow.

That being said how many people of any religion truly "walk in the Word"? I count myself blessed to have met two (myself not included) who truly accept without judgement, and who "hate the sin and not the sinner"? I paraphrase Ghandi when he said "I love Jesus, He is fantastic. I wish Christians would listen to Him". You have to admit, Christianity, from its conception to the modern age, has not exactly been the bastion of "let me be the example"

I agree with you completely. I've been a Christian for 19 years I'm happy to say and I learned long ago that there is 1 judge that matters and that is God. Referenced in the bible many times for a reason. not many Christians read the bible and that is problem that leads to others.

Christ is the untimate example of how a person should strive to be. Knowing that why waste your time trying to be like someone else? Nothing will make you happier and satisfied like Christ will. The key thing that makes this end of times predicting crap is it makes what i call the bible thumpers who are desperate because they think the end of times is near or they know when it will be preach the gospel out of fear. Not LOVE. If I was going to tell a Christian or a non believer anything it will be showing them Christs love for everybody even people that man would say is unredeemable or lost. No ones ever lost. Christ saved the man who cried out for forgiveness who was dying on the cross right next to him. Guess what happened to the other guy who denied him? Christ was the perfect example to the very end of his life and even after death.

Well you know it's about power. Don't you agree? Teaching an Apocalyptic message gives power over those who believe it because it terrifies them into behaving the way someone wants them to behave. It is about controlling the actions of people and not fostering a true communion with God. In my opinion a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience". They may answer questions about their own "God experience" but they don't interfere with another's path. That is between them and God.

Damn I just laughed so hard I spit up my coffee throuh my nose and on my laptop keyboard... Good one !

"a true Christian doesn't get involved in other people's lives, try to direct their behavior, or try to steer their "God experience"."

You guys crack me up. That's all ANY of you do is try to infest other peoples lives with your nonsense. It's your sworn duty.

A good Christian church will preach about how in the bible it says clearly that God gives us the freedom of choice to sin or to not sin. Any good church wont try to intervien in it's member lives or have Guidlines other than what's in the king james bible, which is Gods word. Which states this. We are supposed to judge the sin not the sinners, and god tells us what sin is in the bible. There's only 1 judge and that is God himself. Anybody else that judges should be looked down upon.

And yet, you're one of the most judgmental and least loving on this board.

Gah - I know better than to venture into the LaLaLand known as the Religion forum!