Emails Reveal President Obama Shut Down WW2 Memorial Knowing Vets Were Coming!

[rightwinger]

LOL That's total bullshit, Winger! It cost more money to bring in barricades to keep people out of an open air memorial than it would have cost to simply keep it open. Or do you think those just magically appeared out of thin air? What cost savings could POSSIBLY been realized by having to erect barricades and have people there to tell visitors that the area was closed? It's a LAWN for Christ's sake! It's not like you need tons of staff to make a lawn work!!! This was nothing more than "theatre" on the Obama Administration's part.

The decision was made on whether Parks are essential or non-essential government services. It was rightfully decided that parks were non-essential

Now, with thousands of parks, monuments and historical sites you expect the Obama administration to be able to decide on two days notice which parks and functions could remain open with minimal impact?

The times I visited the WWII memorial there were always several guards on site. Someone has to chase the kids out of the fountains. Also, a few months prior to the Repulican shutdown, a crazy woman threw green paint on the Lincoln Memorial. We kind of like to protect our monuments from damage.

The decision during the Republican shutdown was Parks Open/Parks Closed. Maybe if Republicans give six months notice before their next shutdown we can do cost benefit analysis on all parks and historic sites to see which are cost effective to keep open

So which do you think was more cost effective, Winger? Letting "several guards" remain on site...or trucking in barricades, paying someone to erect them and then having guards there to tell people the monument is closed? If this Administration can't figure THAT out then they've simply proven that they are as inept at cost cutting as they are at everything ELSE that they've tried to do!

And yes, I DO expect a management team that has their act together to be able to pass down the chain of command that due to budget cuts belts need to be tightened and let the people who run things like the WWII memorial make the call that it would be STUPID to shut down, bring in barricades and have to have as many guards there to tell people they couldn't visit the monument as are normally there to protect it.

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

 

[rightwinger]

And as for your excuse that they only had two days to figure this all out? Did they not KNOW that a shut down was looming? Did they not know this for months before hand? That's about as lame a reason for what happened as I've ever heard.

Did the WWII vets know the memorials would be closed?

Shouldn't they have known that MONTHS in advance?

 

[paulitician]

Obama hates America. Many in this Country know that. He chose his Illegals over American Heroes. He's a foreigner himself.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama hates America. Many in this Country know that. He chose his Illegals over American Heroes. He's a foreigner himself.

Tell us something we don't know

He was also born in Kenya and is probably gay

 

[KNB]

How does this discussion have 7 pages? What's the point? It's a retarded premise. Like veterans suffered at all because a memorial closed. 47% of homeless vets alive right now are from Vietnam. Close the memorials and use that money to pay their rent. They deserve it after so long.

How long was the shutdown? Two weeks? Maybe to a WWII vet, two weeks might be a long time, but why did they wait until 2013 to visit these memorials if it was so important to them? Did any WWII vets die while waiting for the government to reopen, ultimately failing in their life-long goal to visit a Federally funded war memorial?

Breitbart is full of shit.

 

[paulitician]

Obama hates America. Many in this Country know that. He chose his Illegals over American Heroes. He's a foreigner himself.

Tell us something we don't know

He was also born in Kenya and is probably gay

Maybe? He chose his Illegals' Protest Party over American Heroes. A truly despicable act. Veterans will not forgive & forget on this one.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama hates America. Many in this Country know that. He chose his Illegals over American Heroes. He's a foreigner himself.

Tell us something we don't know

He was also born in Kenya and is probably gay

Maybe? He chose his Illegals' Protest Party over American Heroes. A truly despicable act. Veterans will not forgive & forget on this one.

Ron Paul sleeps with a stuffed bunny

True story

 

[Oldstyle]

The decision was made on whether Parks are essential or non-essential government services. It was rightfully decided that parks were non-essential

Now, with thousands of parks, monuments and historical sites you expect the Obama administration to be able to decide on two days notice which parks and functions could remain open with minimal impact?

The times I visited the WWII memorial there were always several guards on site. Someone has to chase the kids out of the fountains. Also, a few months prior to the Repulican shutdown, a crazy woman threw green paint on the Lincoln Memorial. We kind of like to protect our monuments from damage.

The decision during the Republican shutdown was Parks Open/Parks Closed. Maybe if Republicans give six months notice before their next shutdown we can do cost benefit analysis on all parks and historic sites to see which are cost effective to keep open

So which do you think was more cost effective, Winger? Letting "several guards" remain on site...or trucking in barricades, paying someone to erect them and then having guards there to tell people the monument is closed? If this Administration can't figure THAT out then they've simply proven that they are as inept at cost cutting as they are at everything ELSE that they've tried to do!

And yes, I DO expect a management team that has their act together to be able to pass down the chain of command that due to budget cuts belts need to be tightened and let the people who run things like the WWII memorial make the call that it would be STUPID to shut down, bring in barricades and have to have as many guards there to tell people they couldn't visit the monument as are normally there to protect it.

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

 

[Oldstyle]

And as for your excuse that they only had two days to figure this all out? Did they not KNOW that a shut down was looming? Did they not know this for months before hand? That's about as lame a reason for what happened as I've ever heard.

Did the WWII vets know the memorials would be closed?

Shouldn't they have known that MONTHS in advance?

They probably figured that the guy in charge, Barack Obama would work out a compromise. How would they have known that Obama WANTED to close down the Park system to put pressure on the GOP? Who would think that someone would play politics with something like the WWII memorial!!!

 

[rightwinger]

So which do you think was more cost effective, Winger? Letting "several guards" remain on site...or trucking in barricades, paying someone to erect them and then having guards there to tell people the monument is closed? If this Administration can't figure THAT out then they've simply proven that they are as inept at cost cutting as they are at everything ELSE that they've tried to do!

And yes, I DO expect a management team that has their act together to be able to pass down the chain of command that due to budget cuts belts need to be tightened and let the people who run things like the WWII memorial make the call that it would be STUPID to shut down, bring in barricades and have to have as many guards there to tell people they couldn't visit the monument as are normally there to protect it.

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

Do you understand what a "Fence" is?

Google it and get back to me

 

[Oldstyle]

Tell us something we don't know

He was also born in Kenya and is probably gay

Maybe? He chose his Illegals' Protest Party over American Heroes. A truly despicable act. Veterans will not forgive & forget on this one.

Ron Paul sleeps with a stuffed bunny

True story

Most intelligent thing you've said in this string...True Story!

 

[Oldstyle]

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

Do you understand what a "Fence" is?

Google it and get back to me

You can call it what you like, Winger...they still had to pay to put it up. Care to take a guess as to what THAT cost us taxpayers?

 

[rightwinger]

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

Do you understand what a "Fence" is?

Google it and get back to me

You can call it what you like, Winger...they still had to pay to put it up. Care to take a guess as to what THAT cost us taxpayers?

You think it is included in the $26 Billion that was wasted in the Republican Shutdown?

 

[Freewill]

So which do you think was more cost effective, Winger? Letting "several guards" remain on site...or trucking in barricades, paying someone to erect them and then having guards there to tell people the monument is closed? If this Administration can't figure THAT out then they've simply proven that they are as inept at cost cutting as they are at everything ELSE that they've tried to do!

And yes, I DO expect a management team that has their act together to be able to pass down the chain of command that due to budget cuts belts need to be tightened and let the people who run things like the WWII memorial make the call that it would be STUPID to shut down, bring in barricades and have to have as many guards there to tell people they couldn't visit the monument as are normally there to protect it.

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

It really doesn't matter now does it? Obama, the most powerful man in the world. The man who changes law with a mere stroke of a pen. A man who sends our men into harms way to bomb Syria and Libya. Couldn't keep the memorials open, amazing how the liberal left lauds his military adventures then in the next breath make the case that he is impotent. Simply amazing.

 

[rightwinger]

Bring in barricades and have one guard to ensure it is not breached

WWII memorial covers several acres and has multiple access points. It is also easier to secure the site if you let the public know that ALL sites in the Mall are closed until further notice. Then you have fewer people in the Mall area

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

It really doesn't matter now does it? Obama, the most powerful man in the world. The man who changes law with a mere stroke of a pen. A man who sends our men into harms way to bomb Syria and Libya. Couldn't keep the memorials open, amazing how the liberal left lauds his military adventures then in the next breath make the case that he is impotent. Simply amazing.

Damn...could you explain what you just posted?

 

[Oldstyle]

Do you understand what a "Fence" is?

Google it and get back to me

You can call it what you like, Winger...they still had to pay to put it up. Care to take a guess as to what THAT cost us taxpayers?

You think it is included in the $26 Billion that was wasted in the Republican Shutdown?

I'm amused by your constant refrain that it was a "Republican Shutdown", Winger. You do that I assume because you buy into the Obama narrative that anything that isn't working in his two terms in office is the fault of the GOP? Yet anything that goes right while he's in office...such as the stock market rebound (caused in large part by quantitative easing from the Fed)...increases in natural gas and oil production (which goes up everywhere Barry doesn't control...but goes down where he does) or the killing of Osama bin Laden (which was accomplished using intel gathered using enhanced interrogations under George W. Bush) is all HIS doing!

 

[rightwinger]

You can call it what you like, Winger...they still had to pay to put it up. Care to take a guess as to what THAT cost us taxpayers?

You think it is included in the $26 Billion that was wasted in the Republican Shutdown?

I'm amused by your constant refrain that it was a "Republican Shutdown", Winger. You do that I assume because you buy into the Obama narrative that anything that isn't working in his two terms in office is the fault of the GOP? Yet anything that goes right while he's in office...such as the stock market rebound (caused in large part by quantitative easing from the Fed)...increases in natural gas and oil production (which goes up everywhere Barry doesn't control...but goes down where he does) or the killing of Osama bin Laden (which was accomplished using intel gathered using enhanced interrogations under George W. Bush) is all HIS doing!

Republicans wasted $26 Billion in their shutdown

And all you got is....What did Obama pay for that barricade?

 

[Freewill]

You think it is included in the $26 Billion that was wasted in the Republican Shutdown?

I'm amused by your constant refrain that it was a "Republican Shutdown", Winger. You do that I assume because you buy into the Obama narrative that anything that isn't working in his two terms in office is the fault of the GOP? Yet anything that goes right while he's in office...such as the stock market rebound (caused in large part by quantitative easing from the Fed)...increases in natural gas and oil production (which goes up everywhere Barry doesn't control...but goes down where he does) or the killing of Osama bin Laden (which was accomplished using intel gathered using enhanced interrogations under George W. Bush) is all HIS doing!

Republicans wasted $26 Billion in their shutdown

And all you got is....What did Obama pay for that barricade?

The most powerful man in the world you are calling too impotent to keep a memorial open. Too funny.

 

[Freewill]

LOL...you can't even figure out how this makes sense, Winger, can you? You say have "one guard to ensure it is not breached" and then in the next paragraph you state that it "has multiple access points". Is this one guard supposed to run laps from access point to access point? Yeah, like THAT is going to happen! (eye-roll) Multiple access points means multiple guards.

And you still haven't addressed the cost of those barricades. What do you think is more expensive...to truck in and erect barricades (which are most likely leased from the ever present "Bob's Barricades") or to simply leave it like it was and let people walk past and view the memorial? I'm going to go way out on a limb here (not really knowing how Washington spends our money!) and say that the cost to erect the barricades was something stupidly expensive. Or do you want to got the full on naive route and pretend that it wasn't?

It really doesn't matter now does it? Obama, the most powerful man in the world. The man who changes law with a mere stroke of a pen. A man who sends our men into harms way to bomb Syria and Libya. Couldn't keep the memorials open, amazing how the liberal left lauds his military adventures then in the next breath make the case that he is impotent. Simply amazing.

Damn...could you explain what you just posted?

Really? You didn't understand that I was saying you were accusing Obama of being so powerless he couldn't keep a memorial open? Really you are that unaware?

 

[Oldstyle]

The most powerful man in the world...who's Party controlled the Oval Office, the Senate and the House for long stretches of his first term and yet it was STILL the fault of the GOP that the economy grinds along, unemployment is still high, large parts of ObamaCare are being delayed because the Democrats are terrified the voting public will discover how they were lied to about it and our status globally continues to nosedive.

You've got to give Winger credit...he's the chief apologist for the Obama White House on this board and THAT is a full time job! He's like the little Dutch boy with his fingers in the dike.