Election denial?

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please.
 

please.
The Democrats are proposing the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022. This is in answer to the Republicans questioning the election results of the 2020 Presidential election. This is a rather questionable action given that the Republicans questioned the 2020 election because of obvious irregularities. These occurred in the process leading up to the election day as well as the shenanigans that occurred the night of the election and in the week that followed. There were too many to recount here, no pun intended.

These irregularities and questionable actions can be found documented here at the website 2020 Election Irregularities, among many other places where these problems are disclosed.

The concern now is what are the Democrats and some Republicans planning to do about it. They call everyone who questions the results “election deniers.” They have convenient election amnesia because it has always been the Democrats that objected to the presidential election results. This occurred in Presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016. The 2016 election resulted in a bogus investigation by former FBI director Robert Mueller. The Republican National Committee released a ten-minute montage of Democrats denying election results 150 times.

A newspaper clipping from 1928 stated that Franklin Delano Roosevelt sent 100 attorneys to upstate New York cities questioning potential fraud in the governor’s election. Are the Democrats going to call FDR an election denier? Think of how history may have been changed. Roosevelt’s opponent, Albert Ottinger, conceded the election. The vote was 48.96% for FDR and 48.34% for Ottinger -- a .6% difference!

Did Roosevelt send these attorneys to protect the election from fraud or to cover it up? The counties in question were heavily Republican, as can be seen from the map. Imagine how much history may have changed if the election went the other way. Would Roosevelt have run for President in 1932?

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The January 6th committee is focused on what happened when the Republicans questioned the results of the 2020 election. The Republicans did so in accordance with the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Which is exactly what the Democrats did in every Presidential election they lost beginning in 2000. The 1887 law was written after the controversial election of 1876 when Rutherford B. Hayes prevailed over Democrat Samuel J. Tilden. Hayes was elected, after much negotiating, by one electoral vote. The negotiations resulted in the removal of Union troops from the southern states. Other concessions demanded by the Southern Democrats paved the way for the Jim Crow laws that were in place until the 1960s.

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The voter turnout in 2020 was the highest since that same 1876 election. The 1876 election was disputed because of suspected voter fraud. Is the highest voter turnout in 1876 and 2020 a reality, or could it be that in both elections, fraudulent votes were the cause of the inflated numbers? It seems a definite possibility.

The Democrat party keeps using the “election denier” tagline as a campaign tool. In the debate for the 25th Congressional District of New York between the Democrat Joe Morelle and Republican Laron Singletary, Morelle accused his opponent of being an election denier. Quite an arrogant stance for a candidate from the party that disputed every lost presidential election in the 21st century. A better question is, why is questioning the results of the 2020 election an issue? What does it have to do with a candidate’s ability to do the job? What about issues that are presently of concern to voters: crime, inflation, the price of gasoline, illegal immigration, education and child welfare, poverty, drug overdoses, food shortages, and supply chain issues?

What is it that the Democrat-sponsored bill proposes to do? It makes it more difficult to contest an election. The law in 2020 specifies that one member of the House and one member of the Senate could object to the electoral vote count. The proposed law S.4573 -- 117th Congress (2021-2022) (1) specifies that the role of the Vice President during the joint session shall be ministerial in nature, and (2) raises the objection threshold in Congress to at least one-fifth of the duly chosen and sworn members of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

In other words, the Democrats didn’t like the fact that the Republicans used the same law that Democrats always used. This is consistent with the Democrat playbook. They never like it when the proverbial shoe is on the other foot. If the Republicans take back the House in November, they need to make an issue of past election “denial” going as far back as Roosevelt in 1928.

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What does Senate Bill S.4573 do to ensure election integrity? Nothing. It only makes any objection to the results that much more difficult. That alone could result in increased incentives to steal an election. It’s about as foolish as trying to cut down on shoplifting by raising the felony shoplifting minimums. How did that idea work out? Now they want to apply their foolish soft on crime policies to election law.
 
Republicans always declare every election they don't win fraudulent. For decades and decades. Nothing will ever stop them.
 
Republicans always declare every election they don't win fraudulent. For decades and decades. Nothing will ever stop them.
And you are full of S as usual. 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012 there was no disputing the dems win. 1960 yes, 2020 yes the others no.
 
And you are full of S as usual. 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012 there was no disputing the dems win. 1960 yes, 2020 yes the others no.
The right disputed all of them. You act as if the GOP's insane ravings about voter fraud and stolen elections are something new. Yet astonishingly, there's never any voter fraud when a republican wins the election. What are the odds?
 
The right disputed all of them. You act as if the GOP's insane ravings about voter fraud and stolen elections are something new. Yet astonishingly, there's never any voter fraud when a republican wins the election. What are the odds?
Liar they did not dispute all of them, just 1960 and 2020. Oh you may have had some fringe elements squawk about some others but that is normal.
 
Liar they did not dispute all of them, just 1960 and 2020. Oh you may have had some fringe elements squawk about some others but that is normal.
You are acting as if conservative media and conservative voters have not raved every single day of my lifetime about voter fraud and elections being stolen. Sorry, snowflake. Either you're playing stupid or you need to catch up.
 
You are acting as if conservative media and conservative voters have not raved every single day of my lifetime about voter fraud and elections being stolen. Sorry, snowflake. Either you're playing stupid or you need to catch up.
Some elections get disputed. Take 2018 with Stacy Abrams she still has not conceded but she is Dem so that makes it okay. Besides the point of the article is that election nationalization bill the dems want to shove down everyone's throat.
 
Some elections get disputed. Take 2018 with Stacy Abrams she still has not conceded but she is Dem so that makes it okay. Besides the point of the article is that election nationalization bill the dems want to shove down everyone's throat.
Ok, bro :itsok:
 
Voter ID takes care for me!

Demofks, why do you not want honest elections?
 
The Democrats are proposing the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022. This is in answer to the Republicans questioning the election results of the 2020 Presidential election. This is a rather questionable action given that the Republicans questioned the 2020 election because of obvious irregularities. These occurred in the process leading up to the election day as well as the shenanigans that occurred the night of the election and in the week that followed. There were too many to recount here, no pun intended.

These irregularities and questionable actions can be found documented here at the website 2020 Election Irregularities, among many other places where these problems are disclosed.

The concern now is what are the Democrats and some Republicans planning to do about it. They call everyone who questions the results “election deniers.” They have convenient election amnesia because it has always been the Democrats that objected to the presidential election results. This occurred in Presidential elections in 2000, 2004, and 2016. The 2016 election resulted in a bogus investigation by former FBI director Robert Mueller. The Republican National Committee released a ten-minute montage of Democrats denying election results 150 times.

A newspaper clipping from 1928 stated that Franklin Delano Roosevelt sent 100 attorneys to upstate New York cities questioning potential fraud in the governor’s election. Are the Democrats going to call FDR an election denier? Think of how history may have been changed. Roosevelt’s opponent, Albert Ottinger, conceded the election. The vote was 48.96% for FDR and 48.34% for Ottinger -- a .6% difference!

Did Roosevelt send these attorneys to protect the election from fraud or to cover it up? The counties in question were heavily Republican, as can be seen from the map. Imagine how much history may have changed if the election went the other way. Would Roosevelt have run for President in 1932?

7_233_9.gif

The January 6th committee is focused on what happened when the Republicans questioned the results of the 2020 election. The Republicans did so in accordance with the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Which is exactly what the Democrats did in every Presidential election they lost beginning in 2000. The 1887 law was written after the controversial election of 1876 when Rutherford B. Hayes prevailed over Democrat Samuel J. Tilden. Hayes was elected, after much negotiating, by one electoral vote. The negotiations resulted in the removal of Union troops from the southern states. Other concessions demanded by the Southern Democrats paved the way for the Jim Crow laws that were in place until the 1960s.

241283_5_.jpg
The voter turnout in 2020 was the highest since that same 1876 election. The 1876 election was disputed because of suspected voter fraud. Is the highest voter turnout in 1876 and 2020 a reality, or could it be that in both elections, fraudulent votes were the cause of the inflated numbers? It seems a definite possibility.

The Democrat party keeps using the “election denier” tagline as a campaign tool. In the debate for the 25th Congressional District of New York between the Democrat Joe Morelle and Republican Laron Singletary, Morelle accused his opponent of being an election denier. Quite an arrogant stance for a candidate from the party that disputed every lost presidential election in the 21st century. A better question is, why is questioning the results of the 2020 election an issue? What does it have to do with a candidate’s ability to do the job? What about issues that are presently of concern to voters: crime, inflation, the price of gasoline, illegal immigration, education and child welfare, poverty, drug overdoses, food shortages, and supply chain issues?

What is it that the Democrat-sponsored bill proposes to do? It makes it more difficult to contest an election. The law in 2020 specifies that one member of the House and one member of the Senate could object to the electoral vote count. The proposed law S.4573 -- 117th Congress (2021-2022) (1) specifies that the role of the Vice President during the joint session shall be ministerial in nature, and (2) raises the objection threshold in Congress to at least one-fifth of the duly chosen and sworn members of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

In other words, the Democrats didn’t like the fact that the Republicans used the same law that Democrats always used. This is consistent with the Democrat playbook. They never like it when the proverbial shoe is on the other foot. If the Republicans take back the House in November, they need to make an issue of past election “denial” going as far back as Roosevelt in 1928.

7_74_19.gif

What does Senate Bill S.4573 do to ensure election integrity? Nothing. It only makes any objection to the results that much more difficult. That alone could result in increased incentives to steal an election. It’s about as foolish as trying to cut down on shoplifting by raising the felony shoplifting minimums. How did that idea work out? Now they want to apply their foolish soft on crime policies to election law.
As a nation of laws, a loser in an election can demand recounts, audits, investigations, court appeals, etc.

After no credible evidence of voter fraud that could alter the outcome of the election is found, whining and inciting goons to try to overthrow the election wreaks havoc with law and order and with democracy itself.

After two years pass during which even the most rabid fanatic fantasizing about a vast conspiracy to overthrow an airy-fairy "Landslide!" cannot contrive evidence that can stand up in any legal venue, nor name a single suspect in their vast caper, it's time for them to respect the truth and patriotism.

There are Republican politicians who do not believe that election deniers are as stupid or irrational as they appear:


GOP Congressman Dan Crenshaw says election deniers know they’re lying

The representative from Houston said fellow Republicans admitted behind closed doors that the 2020 election​

wasn’t stolen, and he warned that such messaging could dangerously mislead voters.​


Members of Congress who contested the 2020 election results admitted behind closed doors that they know their cause is false, U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Houston, said on his podcast published Wednesday, offering his sternest rebuke yet of his party’s rejection of President Joe Biden’s win.
... [T]he Texas Republican said fellow members of his party were merely trying to signal their disapproval of former President Donald Trump’s loss but knew there was no real mechanism to overturn it. Still, he warned that messaging could dangerously lead to voters losing faith in the electoral process.
“It was always a lie. The whole thing was always a lie. And it was a lie meant to rile people up,” Crenshaw said, deriding some of his peers as “political personalities” rather than “politicians.”

 
After no credible evidence of voter fraud that could alter the outcome of the election is found, whining and inciting goons to try to overthrow the election wreaks havoc with law and order and with democracy itself.
Judges should allow the evidence, don’t you think?
 
Judges should allow the evidence, don’t you think?
Pretending that no Republican judge in the land allowed "evidence" or that no plaintiff's attorney submitted it, no propaganda outlet has publicized it at any time over the past two years, and no Republican governor, secretary of state, attorney general, or legislature has taken it seriously enough to resurrect it in a legal venue.

After two years, you should at least have a suspect or two in such a vast, monumental conspiracy.

When Republican Congressman Crenshaw said that election deniers know they're lying, he did not say that all of them grasped reality.
 
The tradition of peaceful transfers of power (1789-2021) was something in which patriots had taken justifiable pride.

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