Israeli blockade of Gaza caused Oct 7th

[toomuchtime_]

Some of those British were former army comrades of my Dad who had just liberated Jews from Bergen Belsen, that Polish thug Begin was trying to murder them with his terrorists friend Shamir, they blew up the King David hotel, some freedom fighters.

Yep, freedom fighters who drove the British colonial soldiers out of Palestine. Keep in mind that after your Dad's comrades followed the Americans across Europe to help eliminate what was left of the nazi concentration camps they built their own concentration camps for Jews in Cyprus to put the Holocaust survivors who tried to reach Palestine. When these freedom fighters finally blew up the wing of the King David Hotel that housed the British military and colonial offices the British lost heart and set the people of Palestine free.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Hamas doesn't have "own civilians" you nut, Hamas is a radical and partially terrorist organization that recruits itself out of Palestinians living under deplorable circumstances in Gaza for decades - civilians who have been additionally misused and pressured by Hamas since they got elected.

Why were they elected?
Because those Palestinians in Gaza at the time - had bought into the vision of Hamas being more capable then the PLO to gain a sovereign and independent Palestinian State.

Just as Israeli citizens who buy into Zionism, and therefore believe that a Nethanjahu and Co. will provide for a "Greater Israel".

Little cup, Hamas and Palestinians are one in the same.

 

[gipper]

Are you one of those who insists Israel must never be allowed to defend herself?

Apparently you also don’t know the definition of defend. Good God you’re a dumb fuck.

 

[BackAgain]

The blockade didn't force them, it was just the motivation (and response), behind the attack.

As for Biden, you are full of shit!

As for weapons, are you saying Gazan's have no right to defend themselves?

You’re a stupid troll. And of course you’re wrong. But at least nobody with a brain buys the crap you peddle.

 

[hadit]

Apparently you also don’t know the definition of defend. Good God you’re a dumb fuck.

Okay, for the peanut gallery, Israel is established as a nation. The surrounding nations immediately attack and are soundly defeated. Was Israel defending herself? The same nations try again and again are soundly defeated. Was Israel defending herself?

 

[Deadstick]

Yep, freedom fighters who drove the British colonial soldiers out of Palestine. Keep in mind that after your Dad's comrades followed the Americans across Europe to help eliminate what was left of the nazi concentration camps they built their own concentration camps for Jews in Cyprus to put the Holocaust survivors who tried to reach Palestine. When these freedom fighters finally blew up the wing of the King David Hotel that housed the British military and colonial offices the British lost heart and set the people of Palestine free.

Many of those people had never been to Palestine the Stern gang/Leih even made contact with the Nazis to try and do a deal to fight the British they even had a plan to kill Churchill, they were terrorists then and are now.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Many of those people had never been to Palestine the Stern gang/Leih even made contact with the Nazis to try and do a deal to fight the British theybeven had a plan to kill Churchill, they were terrorists then and are now.

They were freedom fighters. Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Apparently you also don’t know the definition of defend. Good God you’re a dumb fuck.

Tell me more about the so called dead children

 

[Deadstick]

They were freedom fighters. Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.

Freedom fighters my arse.

 

[gipper]

You’re a stupid troll. And of course you’re wrong. But at least nobody with a brain buys the crap you peddle.

Oh DumbAgain chimes in with his usual ignorance.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Many of those people had never been to Palestine the Stern gang/Leih even made contact with the Nazis to try and do a deal to fight the British theybeven had a plan to kill Churchill, they were terrorists then and are now.

The British had promise to establish a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, but when the Jews who survived the nazi concentration camps tried to reach Palestine, the British put them in new concentration camps in Cyprus.

Both the British and the nazis were enemies of the Jewish people in Palestine, nonetheless, Jewish forces fought alongside British and Australian special forces against the Vichy French forces in Lebanon, and after the war, in 1945, Jewish forces in Palestine made the decision to drive the perfidious British colonial forces out of Palestine. The soldiers who did this were freedom fighters and heroes.

 

[gipper]

Tell me more about the so called dead children

Why do you always parrot the establishment narrative?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why do you always parrot the establishment narrative?

Ask yourself that same question

 

[Grau]

Two atomic bombs killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, men women and children, pets, etc. Should the American president be condemned for dropping them or lauded for preventing the predicted deaths of up to a million by allowing the war to continue and conquering the Japanese mainland inch by bloody inch? There comes a time in warfare when a dominant force needs to make a decision, do we break our opponents' will to continue fighting or do we hold back to be "fair" and allow the death cycle to continue?

In Israel's case, there is a brutal truth that has been in play since the day she was founded as a nation, and that truth is that the nations and people groups around Israel are dedicated to the annihilation of the Israeli people. Not coexistence with, not peace, not tolerance, not enforceable borders, annihilation. Israel needs to lose just ONE war to be completely wiped out. This is a reality that is routinely glossed over by those who hate Israel. Israel is the only nation on the face of the earth that the rest of the world demands she do nothing when her citizens are under attack and being killed in the dead of night. No other nation is expected to even shrug off such attacks.

The liberation of Gaza from Hamas must continue.

Why start counting massacres after the Nakba?

Apologists for Zionist genocide and "Greater Israel" expansionism like to pretend that Levantine history began
after Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs(1) committed atrocities(2) that would make the most sadistic Gestapo member blush.

I don't recall ever reading about German soldiers or Palestinian resistance fighters ever bayonetting pregnant women in the abdomen and as it turned out the more recent Zionist propaganda mill's fables about "40 headless babies" and fictitious stories of "mass rape" were all false.

Israel's gaggle of genocidal Zionist shills conveniently omit the fact that Palestinian Jews comprised only about 3% - 4% of Palestine's population before the invasion of foreign Zionist terrorists and militant European Jews.

Just a casual look at a time frame map reveals who has been stealing land from whom and we're supposed to pity the "Greater Israel" land thieves because Palestine's native residents are resisting the most brutal, foreign funded genocide in history?




Of course the native Arabs are resisting the bigoted and murderous "Settler" land thieves who have never wanted a peaceful coexistence. (3)

The Zionist invader / occupiers are not murdering, stealing and destroying out of defense.

We know this because Zionist "Settlers" attacked West Bank Palestinians after 7 October 2023 even though the West Bank Palestinians had nothing to do with the 7 October uprising and is governed by the P.A., not Hamas. (4)

It doesn't matter what happens to Hamas because as long as Israel's right wing extremists murder and steal, there will always be resistance to the right wing "Settler" types who prefer expansionism over peace.

Thanks,




(1). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED



(2). “Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”

https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

EXCERPT " One of the worst Zionist massacres committed against Palestinians is the Deir Yasin massacre. Defenceless Palestinian civilians were tortured before being massacres and their bodies mutilated. Women and children were raped, babies were butchered and pregnant women were bayoneted.

"A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself – the mopping up – as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the "mopping up" had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives. Women’s bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.[2] Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive." CONTINUED


(3). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"

Israel does not want peace

Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

www.haaretz.com

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell."CONTINUED



(4). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.

slate.com

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas." CONTINUED

 

[Shusha]

Why do people continue to post that ridiculous series of fake maps? Worse, why do people continue to believe this bullshit?

Here a series of true maps:

 

[BackAgain]

Oh DumbAgain chimes in with his usual ignorance.

Gimp ^ feebly tries to defend his fellow shitbag libturd.

It’s kinda cute in a diseased shitlb way.

 

[Deadstick]

Lying is a way of life for the bastards, every War they have started based on lies Israel has started every war since the rogue state was founded, only one they didn't start was the Yom Kipur war even then it was Egypt and Syria taking back land the Zionist war criminals had stole, the media are complicit in all the crimes and Colonialism, here is an example from CNN, if they lie about this in Syria what else do they lie about? MSM journalism is dead.

 

[gipper]

Ask yourself that same question

Lol. You’re so dumb you think the establishment opposes Israel. LOL!

 

[gipper]

Gimp ^ feebly tries to defend his fellow shitbag libturd.

It’s kinda cute in a diseased shitlb way.

DumbAgain I’m not a lib you stupid fuck. I suppose in your demented Joe Biden mind you think anyone opposing mass murder of women and children is a lib.

 

[gipper]

Why start counting massacres after the Nakba?

Apologists for Zionist genocide and "Greater Israel" expansionism like to pretend that Levantine history began
after Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs(1) committed atrocities(2) that would make the most sadistic Gestapo member blush.

I don't recall ever reading about German soldiers or Palestinian resistance fighters ever bayonetting pregnant women in the abdomen and as it turned out the more recent Zionist propaganda mill's fables about "40 headless babies" and fictitious stories of "mass rape" were all false.

Israel's gaggle of genocidal Zionist shills conveniently omit the fact that Palestinian Jews comprised only about 3% - 4% of Palestine's population before the invasion of foreign Zionist terrorists and militant European Jews.

Just a casual look at a time frame map reveals who has been stealing land from whom and we're supposed to pity the "Greater Israel" land thieves because Palestine's native residents are resisting the most brutal, foreign funded genocide in history?




Of course the native Arabs are resisting the bigoted and murderous "Settler" land thieves who have never wanted a peaceful coexistence. (3)

The Zionist invader / occupiers are not murdering, stealing and destroying out of defense.

We know this because Zionist "Settlers" attacked West Bank Palestinians after 7 October 2023 even though the West Bank Palestinians had nothing to do with the 7 October uprising and is governed by the P.A., not Hamas. (4)

It doesn't matter what happens to Hamas because as long as Israel's right wing extremists murder and steal, there will always be resistance to the right wing "Settler" types who prefer expansionism over peace.

Thanks,




(1). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED



(2). “Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”

https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

EXCERPT " One of the worst Zionist massacres committed against Palestinians is the Deir Yasin massacre. Defenceless Palestinian civilians were tortured before being massacres and their bodies mutilated. Women and children were raped, babies were butchered and pregnant women were bayoneted.

"A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself – the mopping up – as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the "mopping up" had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives. Women’s bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.[2] Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive." CONTINUED


(3). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"

Israel does not want peace

Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

www.haaretz.com

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell."CONTINUED



(4). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.

slate.com

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas." CONTINUED

Outstanding post. Thank you. Of course these dumb MFers here won’t read it.