IM2
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Your standard is factless right wing bs.
The World has lost Respect for the United States under Trump.
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Blisterfinger
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OMG where have you been the last 4 years? Biden is the ultimate disaster in foreign policy
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Every OP that I have put up (except a very few where I was giving my opinion and I stated in the OP that it was an opinion piece) has included data, statistics and facts.
You can search all my OP's and I dare you to find one where I did otherwise.
As such, I have ALREADY proven that I "hold myself to that standard".
You bringing up the subject the way you have done so, means that you had not checked before opening your mouth and you were spreading doubts (on purpose) where no doubts exist.
That is why I took you post personally as I am 100% against people judging others based on just opinion. That seems to be the norm here.
Okay, now it's OP's. Let me know when the goal posts stop moving. It's fine to think that way, BTW, it's just not the way you made your statement.
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This was the OP:
The world has lost respect for the United States under Trump and it is clearly shown that under Biden, much of that respect was regained:
It is clearly evident that world views on Trump are strongly negative.Comparing global views of the United States and China during the Trump and Biden administrations
Under the Trump administration, international approval of U.S. leadership fell to a historic low, with confidence in President Donald Trump roughly on par with confidence in Chinese President Xi Jinping. Trump’s exit from multilateral institutions like the World Health Organization and treaties like the Paris Agreement, restrictive policies on immigration, and aggressive use of tariffs alienated U.S. allies and non-allies alike. Global views of the United States and China worsened during the COVID-19 pandemic by 20 percentage points and 16 percentage points, respectively.
The return of U.S. global engagement under President Joe Biden and his administration’s emphasis on strengthening ties with allies and partners boosted confidence in U.S. leadership.
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Change in favorable views of the United States in select countries
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Country Obama-Trump transition Trump-Biden transition France −17% 34% Germany −22% 33% United Kingdom −11% 23% Japan −15% 30% South Korea −9% 18% Australia −12% 15% Israel 0% 0% Russia 26% N/A
When Trump says Make America Great Again, the world laughs.
Now tell me where I did not give data, statistics and facts.
Find any response of mine in the entire OP where I stated something different regarding the OP information.
One thing that I do give opinions on is about the person giving unsupported opinions. As such, if we are talking about opinion, I have as much right to mine (about the person giving the opinion) as he had to giving his opinion of me (personally).
In these specific cases, it is close to impossible to give data, statistics and facts about the person or about me, because there are no (or very few) ways to check to see if the opinion is correct (our personal information is usually not public).
Having said that, it can be said with a high degree of certainty that if someone gives a debasing and degrading opinion about a person, that the person is a bull shitter and biased because he cannot know for certain who the person is.
Blisterfinger
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I am thinking that other countries like the United States better under Biden because it's easier to take advantage of us. Makes perfect sense just follow the money.
Papageorgio
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They have so much respect for Biden, Putin invaded Ukraine and Palestine bombed Israel. The fear of the unknown keeps the world in line.
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My post was not opinion. It was a survey of foreigners. You cannot OPINE on it as it is not an opinion but a fact. Foreigners think badly of Trump
Delldude
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No chance the orchestrated pandemic had anything to do with it?
Papageorgio
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I don’t care what other countries think about the our leader, no wars under Trump is better than two wars under Biden, They can predict what Trump will do and they know he is not a softy like Biden. This is a good measurement of our leaders. The fact is they are unsure and will tend to stay in line while Trump is President, one of only a few reasons to like Trump.
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So what? Impression is what counts. Truth is not important these days.
You are a hypocrite. On one hand, you use what you see as facts to debase Biden/Harris and then when facts are against you, you scream.........not true. Hypocrisy at its pinnacle
Delldude
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All your graph shows is a natural rebound after the pandemic. You try to use it to slight Trump...... not working.
Papageorgio
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Coming from a guy that claimed Biden was mentally fit and Trump was suffering from dementia, and got exposed in a big way for lying. Also, weren’t you the guy that Harris was going to win big and the polls were wrong?
Biden was a softee and the world knew it. Not sure why it matters if we as a nation are liked or not, most countries wouldn’t mind if we lost power as long as it did not hurt them financially. We have not been a well liked nation since the 50’s and I am not going to concern myself in what they think. We spend billions a year to buy friendship, but no money would mean no friends no matter who is President.
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One thing that is over everything you state and I state. For our 248 years of being a nation and with only one exception (the Civil War), we have been a nation with two parties that worked at compromising for the benefit of the nation. We have been a nation with check and balances that always kept this nation being a Democratic Republic.
Now for the first time we are facing one man that is putting all of that aside and getting rid of everything that are forefathers put together to become a ruler and dictator.
That is the reality of what is happening and whether your points are valid or my points are valid, they don't erase thaf fact and if that becomes reality, we (as the best nation in the world) will become worse than most.
All you need is to look at Russia. Putin and the Oligarchs run the nation the way they see fit and the common person has no say at all. If they differ from what the leader says, they get put in jail. There is no justice. Just a nation with a few people getting the benefits and the rest working to lick their asses. Unless you are as rich as the powerful are, you too will have to "tow the line" and do what asked.
Is that what you want?
Forget what Trump is promising (it will not make your life much better than it is now) and realize that what is at stake, is your own freedom and what we have been for 248 years.
Papageorgio
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In four years this President will be stepping aside for another elected official, all the garment tearing and gnashing of your teeth will be for not. Maybe we get a better nation or not, it won’t change all that much. It is funny to me that Democrats could have stopped it all and didn’t they tried to lie their way into the WH and it didn’t work, maybe next election they should actually listen to the people, even liberals are pissed at the Democratic Party.
Look at what Trump has done, has cemented a relationship between himself and long standing liberals, Gabbard, Musk, RFK Jr, moving to work with him. He has gotten liberals like Mahar, Morgan, Sanders, Stephen A. Smith telling the Democratic Party to wake up and listen to the voters. Harris should have ran away with this election, but she focused on Trump and how bad he is and lost, that didn’t work in 2016, and did not work in 2024 and yet with even liberals, leaving the party and telling you why Trump won and Democrats lost, the Presidency, the House and the Senate, you ignore it. Trump again will solve little if anything but he was a better candidate and faced facts, something the Democratic Party has not done. Illegal immigration, inflation, an older America worried about retirement and first time voters worried about not have the same opportunities as those before them and the Democrats answer was it isn’t that bad, the answer was the Democrats message fell short, even the margin of victory in blues states were less than Biden. America won the election just as it has for 248 years, nothing has changed.
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I put luckyone on ignore and I feel more intelligent not reading his drivel. The whole forum is Much better now.
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What a crock. The World LIKED Biden because he was weak ,senile ,and a filthy Lib.
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