Eileen Gu and birthright citizenship

[ThisIsMe]

That is far from fair.

You can’t get blood from a stone
You tax where the money is not someone who is struggling

But fair is equal treatment. So, if you demand that rich people are going to have to pay a higher rate, what do they get for that?

At what point will rich people have paid enough? If a rich person pays 60% of their income in taxes, that won’t solve our problems. Government will just find more wasteful ways to spend that money. Is fair when everyone is living in the same condition?

 

[rightwinger]

But fair is equal treatment. So, if you demand that rich people are going to have to pay a higher rate, what do they get for that?

At what point will rich people have paid enough? If a rich person pays 60% of their income in taxes, that won’t solve our problems. Government will just find more wasteful ways to spend that money. Is fair when everyone is living in the same condition?

RIch people pay the same tax rate at each tax level

The Rich have seen their tax rate slashed for 45 years.

The savings did not trickle down with jobs and prosperity……they just kept the money

 

[ThisIsMe]

RIch people pay the same tax rate at each tax level

The Rich have seen their tax rate slashed for 45 years.

The savings did not trickle down with jobs and prosperity……they just kept the money

Sure, but why do you feel that because they have more, they should be required to pay a higher rate? Where does that end? Government has to cut spending before any tax increase could happen.

At what point would it be considered the rich have paid their fair share? Do we all need to live in the same standard of living before it’s all considered fair?

 

[rightwinger]

Sure, but why do you feel that because they have more, they should be required to pay a higher rate? Where does that end? Government has to cut spending before any tax increase could happen.

At what point would it be considered the rich have paid their fair share? Do we all need to live in the same standard of living before it’s all considered fair?

Mostly because the wealthy receive more from our society than the working poor.
Government spends at the rate We the People demand

I don’t think the poor think they should have the same standard of living as the wealthy.
But they see their standard of living declining as they no longer see buying a house, sending their kids to college, family vacations, job security as achievable

 

[buckeye]

But if she can make some money, and the American team didn't pick her, then why not?

Why are you lying? I suspect its the only thing you know how to do.

She CHOSE not to play for the Americans so she could cash that giant Chinese check. Had she competed to be on our team, it's a pretty good chance she would have made the team.

I don't see how this is legal in the Olympics. Will Eileen start bidding wars between countries trying to get the best athletes?

next Olympics Eileen will ski for Saudi Arabia and her check will be for twice what the Chinese paid her.

 

[buckeye]

Armond Duplantis is the greatest pole vaulter in history
He holds the world record at 20 ft 8 in
He was born in Louisiana and lived there most of his life. HIs father is American and mother is Swedish
He was raised in Louisiana, graduated HS there and went to LSU
He has won two Gold Medals for SWEDEN

I don’t see JD Vance attacking his patriotism.

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Did the swedes pay him 6.6 million dollars to switch loyalties?

What Gu did is crossing a line.

Will China now become the. biggest winner in the Olympics by paying these big bonuses?

 

[rightwinger]

Did the swedes pay him 6.6 million dollars to switch loyalties?

What Gu did is crossing a line.

Will China now become the. biggest winner in the Olympics by paying these big bonuses?

I think Duplantis is a big fish in a small pond in Sweden
America would forget him a week after he wins his Gold Medal
Same as Gu

 

[buckeye]

I think Duplantis is a big fish in a small pond in Sweden
America would forget him a week after he wins his Gold Medal
Same as Gu

Duplantis is a world record holder and did not get paid millions to switch loyalties. As I said Gu crossed a line.

From AI: Duplantis chose to compete for Sweden because he is a citizen of both Sweden and the United States, and he was able to start competing at a younger age in Sweden. Additionally, his father was offered a coaching position with the Swedish team, which influenced his decision to represent Sweden instead of the U.S.

 

[rightwinger]

Duplantis is a world record holder and did not get paid millions to switch loyalties. As I said Gu crossed a line.

From AI: Duplantis chose to compete for Sweden because he is a citizen of both Sweden and the United States, and he was able to start competing at a younger age in Sweden. Additionally, his father was offered a coaching position with the Swedish team, which influenced his decision to represent Sweden instead of the U.S.

GUs mother is a Chinese citizen and she spent much time there growing up. She speaks fluent Chinese

Her decision

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why are you lying? I suspect its the only thing you know how to do.

She CHOSE not to play for the Americans so she could cash that giant Chinese check. Had she competed to be on our team, it's a pretty good chance she would have made the team.

I don't see how this is legal in the Olympics. Will Eileen start bidding wars between countries trying to get the best athletes?

next Olympics Eileen will ski for Saudi Arabia and her check will be for twice what the Chinese paid her.

The Olympics are corrupt on the level of any third world country. The only thing any of the organizers care about is what ends up in their numbered bank accounts.

 

[buckeye]

GUs mother is a Chinese citizen and she spent much time there growing up. She speaks fluent Chinese

Her decision

No kidding.

Nobody has commented that it's not her decision. But we are allowed to have opinions on her decisions.

She chose greed in exchange for her country, I get it.

 

[buckeye]

The Olympics are corrupt on the level of any third world country. The only thing any of the organizers care about is what ends up in their numbered bank accounts.

It's just ridiculous that they looked the other way on the Gu thing. China likely greased their palms plenty.

 

[Jarlaxle]

No kidding.

Nobody has commented that it's not her decision. But we are allowed to have opinions on her decisions.

She chose greed in exchange for her country, I get it.

She may not have had a choice...it may have been her mother forcing her into it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Mostly because the wealthy receive more from our society than the working poor.
Government spends at the rate We the People demand

I don’t think the poor think they should have the same standard of living as the wealthy.
But they see their standard of living declining as they no longer see buying a house, sending their kids to college, family vacations, job security as achievable

Ok, what causes those things to go up? Housing? Limited supply. Builders are not building as many homes so they are higher in demand. Regulations and labor shortages.

College? High prices because of government subsidies.

Vacations? Sure , travel is high right now, give you that.

I’m not sure why job security is a problem. If you show up and do what they pay you to do, and if they make good business decisions, you should have job security.

But are all of these really the fault of rich people, or of an over burdensome government?

You could have your wealth tax, it won’t change a single thing. Government will simply waste all the new revenue on bs pork projects or gifts to their own districts.


a wealth tax wouldn’t work. You’d have people offshoring huge sums of money, the stock market would take a hit and innovation would slow.

Estimating the economic impact of a wealth tax | Brookings

This blog post summarizes the findings of the paper, "Progressive wealth taxation," which discusses the empirical evidence on progressive wealth taxation, the elements needed to make a US wealth tax work, and the economic effects on inequality.

www.brookings.edu

If you want prosperity to increase, you need less regulation and more incentive for businesses to invest in their employees. If you try a wealth tax, companies are just going to crank down on the pay scales even further.

 

[rightwinger]

Ok, what causes those things to go up? Housing? Limited supply. Builders are not building as many homes so they are higher in demand. Regulations and labor shortages.

College? High prices because of government subsidies.

Vacations? Sure , travel is high right now, give you that.

I’m not sure why job security is a problem. If you show up and do what they pay you to do, and if they make good business decisions, you should have job security.

But are all of these really the fault of rich people, or of an over burdensome government?

You could have your wealth tax, it won’t change a single thing. Government will simply waste all the new revenue on bs pork projects or gifts to their own districts.


a wealth tax wouldn’t work. You’d have people offshoring huge sums of money, the stock market would take a hit and innovation would slow.

Estimating the economic impact of a wealth tax | Brookings

This blog post summarizes the findings of the paper, "Progressive wealth taxation," which discusses the empirical evidence on progressive wealth taxation, the elements needed to make a US wealth tax work, and the economic effects on inequality.

www.brookings.edu

If you want prosperity to increase, you need less regulation and more incentive for businesses to invest in their employees. If you try a wealth tax, companies are just going to crank down on the pay scales even further.

Doesn’t matter
People realize they can’t afford the lifestyle they used to have

The wealthy are doing better

 

[buckeye]

She may not have had a choice...it may have been her mother forcing her into it.

That's true. There is no father in this picture. She was raised by her mother and grandmother.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Doesn’t matter
People realize they can’t afford the lifestyle they used to have

The wealthy are doing better

Ok, I agree people can’t afford the lifestyle they used to have. Stuff is expensive right now, my question is, why blame wealthy people? The economy is messed up mostly because of the government.

Still, you’ve not answered my question, how much wealth tax will make things right? At what point will things be fair?

 

[Dragonlady]

Olympian Eileen Gu responds to JD Vance’s comments suggesting she should represent U.S.

The Athletic has live coverage of the 2026 Winter Olympics. Five-time Olympic medalist Eileen Gu has responded to JD Vance after the Vice President appeared to suggest she should be competing for the United States rather than China. Gu is the most decorated female freestyle skier in Olympic...

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Oh, this is fun

"“I certainly think that somebody who grew up in the United States of America, who benefited from our education system, from the freedoms and liberties that make this country a great place, I would hope that they want to compete with the United States of America,” "

DJ Vance thinks that people born in the US are American and should compete for America.

Oh, the irony. They want to stop Chinese kids born in the US from being US citizens, and then criticize Chinese kids born in the US who then compete for China at the winter Olympics.

It's all a bit weird.

Vance, the moron, clearly didn't think that one through, but then Vance was hired for looks, not his smarts.

The main reason why athletes born in the USA compete for other nations is that it is much harder to make the US team, than it is in other nations, especially in the "luxury sports", such as skiing or figure skating.

The same thing happened with Russian figure skaters prior to the Ukrainian invasion, especially for Pairs and Ice Dance. Finding a partner for your talented daughter is the most difficult thing for those who aren't skating singles. Importing a Russian male partner became so common in the 1990's and 2000's that such pairs were referred to as "rent a Russian", because all expenses were being paid by the girl's parents.

 

[g5000]

if they are chinese kids why then would we call them americans??

being Chinese means they are under chinese jurisdiction not american,,

Stop trying to think. Especially about legal matters. You are really bad at it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Stop trying to think. Especially about legal matters. You are really bad at it.

but what did I get wrong??