Duty Calls: Vietnam veterans to receive pins in appreciation of war duty.

[Zavulon]

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You never met any such person

Funny. What else will you denie? That American invasion in Vietnam wasn't charity and was continuation of American neo-colonial policy?

 

[Zavulon]

yes exactly and the north started the war

No. Actually, after defeat of Japan, Sep, 2, 1945 the election on the whole territory of Vietnam, was won by Viet Mihn, and was established Democratic Republic of Vietnam. And only after that, at Sep, 13, British forces landed in Saigon and, after rearming of French and Japanese soldiers, started the hostilities against Vietnamese people and Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

 

[Deadstick]

No. Actually, after defeat of Japan, Sep, 2, 1945 the election on the whole territory of Vietnam, was won by Viet Mihn, and DRV was declared. And only after that, at Sep, 13, British forces landed in Saigon and, after rearming of French and Japanese soldiers, started the hostilities against Vietnamese people and Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

Yes that was the final insult arming Japs.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No. Actually, after defeat of Japan, Sep, 2, 1945 the election on the whole territory of Vietnam, was won by Viet Mihn, and was established Democratic Republic of Vietnam. And only after that, at Sep, 13, British forces landed in Saigon and, after rearming of French and Japanese soldiers, started the hostilities against Vietnamese people and Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

Viet Minh was not a person they won no election

 

[Soupnazi630]

Funny. What else will you denie? That American invasion in Vietnam wasn't charity and was continuation of American neo-colonial policy?

There was no invasion. The french did not invade us when assisting in the war for independance and we were not invading when we were asked to assist south Vietnam

 

[Soupnazi630]

Vietnam was one Country you uneducated twat, once divided by Colonialism and Imperialism, you lost get over it.

No it was not you ignorant faggot

For over a thousand years it was two sperate kingdoms

I won you are stupid and uninformed go suck a guy off

 

[Soupnazi630]

A war of liberation for the whole Country, and they did just that in 1975.

Wrong moron it was an invasion of a soverign nation

 

[Zavulon]

Viet Minh was not a person they won no election

There were election in National Assembly, and organisation Viet Minh got 230 seat out of 300.

In addition, on December 18, 1945, the first general elections for a new 500—seat Constituent Assembly were organized. On January 6, 1946, the results were announced: the National Coalition of Socialists and Democrats received 55.4% of the vote, the National Independence Party — 34.2%, the Liberals - 8.3%, the rest belonged to independents, the turnout was 91%.

 

[Zavulon]

There was no invasion. The french did not invade us when assisting in the war for independance and we were not invading when we were asked to assist south Vietnam

Most of the countries in the world didn't recognise Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam). So, from their point of view (and what is even more important - in the eyes of Vietnamese people) it was illegal invasion.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Most of the countries in the world didn't recognise Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam). So, from their point of view (and what is even more important - in the eyes of Vietnamese people) it was illegal invasion.

recogntion from others is irrelevant. It was not an illegal invasion most south vietnamese did not consider it such

 

[Soupnazi630]

There were election in National Assembly, and organisation Viet Minh got 230 seat out of 300.

In addition, on December 18, 1945, the first general elections for a new 500—seat Constituent Assembly were organized. On January 6, 1946, the results were announced: the National Coalition of Socialists and Democrats received 55.4% of the vote, the National Independence Party — 34.2%, the Liberals - 8.3%, the rest belonged to independents, the turnout was 91%.

That particular election was not held throughout north and soiuth vietnam only NORTH vietnam.

 

[Zavulon]

recogntion from others is irrelevant. It was not an illegal invasion most south vietnamese did not consider it such

In December 1945, people on the territory of the future South Vietnam also voted for Socialists, Democrats, Independence Party and Liberals more or less in same proportions as people in the North.
The proclamation of Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) wasn't result of a referendum or elections. It was result of direct military occupation.
And in fact, even in South, Vietnamese people supported VC not only in words, but even with weapons in their hands.

 

[Soupnazi630]

In December 1945, people on the territory of the future South Vietnam also voted for Socialists, Democrats, Independence Party and Liberals more or less in same proportions as people in the North.
The proclamation of Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) wasn't result of a referendum or elections. It was result of direct military occupation.
And in fact, even in South, Vietnamese people supported VC not only in words, but even with weapons in their hands.

the South vietnamese oppsoed the NLF VC and viet minh

the DRV was also not base don elections minh was never elected

 

[Zavulon]

That particular election was not held throughout north and soiuth vietnam only NORTH vietnam.

The elections were held everywhere exept regions directly occupied by British and French forces. And even in the occupied regions there were "underground elections". VM, and, later, VC won because, among other things, they actually were interested in the opinions and problems of local people, not just in the rude military force. That's what "democracy" means, and it's exactly what makes the difference with "colonial administration".

 

[Soupnazi630]

The elections were held everywhere exept regions directly occupied by British and French forces. And even in the occupied regions there were "underground elections". VM, and, later, VC won because, among other things, they actually were interested in the opinions and problems of local people, not just in rude military force. That's what "democracy" means, and it's exactly what make the difference with "colonial administration".

Wrong

they were only held in north vietnam

There were no such indcerground elections

 

[Zavulon]

Wrong

they were only held in north vietnam

There were no such indcerground elections

That's one of the main reasons why the USA were defeated in Vietnam (and many other places, including Ukraine). Denialism of reality and wishful thinking.
Reality is important, my dear friend. It's actually the matter of life and death.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Thats one of the main reasons why the USA were defeated in Vietnam (and many other places, including Ukraine). Denialism of reality and wishful thinking.
Reality is important, my dear friend. It's actually the matter of life and death.

Yes such as denial of our victory in the tet offensive

 

[Zavulon]

Yes such as denial of our victory in the tet offensive

Victory? Tet offensive clearly demonstrated that Nguyễn Văn Thiệu's regime is unpopular and can't control even Saigon itself. Its goal wasn't land-grabbing. Its target were hearts and minds of Americans. It demonstrated that the war can't be won by the USA.

 

[Deadstick]

Wrong moron it was an invasion of a soverign nation

Only in your deluded confused mind Moron.

 

[Deadstick]

Victory? Tet offensive clearly demonstrated that Nguyễn Văn Thiệu's regime is unpopular and can't control even Saigon itself. Its goal wasn't land-grabbing. Its target were hearts and minds of Americans. It demonstrated that the war can't be won by the USA.

Yes and it did just that, all those GI families watching their tv and wondering how is this possible?