drought, usa

[The Infidel]

David Blume says giant Kelp Farms can replace twice the amount of gasoline that we use in the USA every year. They can prevent dead zones, cool the ocean, slow hurricanes, reduce carbon in air & ocean.

What's taking them so long?


Oh yeah... Bc it's BS.

 

[westwall]

hottest year on record...record droughts.....record temps....i wonder what this upcoming year will be like....we should be much colder by now but had early snowfall?

Hi Bones,

No record temps save in the feverish minds of some bad scientists. The UK's Met Office had to finallt admit there has been no warming for the last 16 years. The "record" temps of last year were wholly manufactured by Hansen and Co.

The reality was far different.

Still trying to peddle your BS to the gullible, eh walleyedretard? You poor delusional crackpot. The UK's Met Office did not say that there has been no warming for the last 16 years. That's another denier cult lie. Why do keep on repeating these totally debunked denier cult myths. BTW, you are far too brainwashed and retarded to have any clue as to what "the reality" of the situation actually is, as you have conclusively demonstrated times without number.

U.S. Heads for Warmest Year Recorded in Lower 48 States
Bloomberg
By Alex Morales
Nov 28, 2012
(excerpts)
The U.S. is about to register the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, and the world its ninth-hottest, a United Nations agency said in a report, adding new urgency to the quest to control global warming. Two-thirds of the U.S. states suffered drought this year, while heat waves hit across Europe and in Morocco, Jordan, China and Russia, the World Meteorological Organization said in a report released in Doha, where UN climate talks began this week. It noted Arctic sea ice shrank to its smallest on record. “The alarming rate of its melt this year highlighted the far reaching changes taking place on Earth’s oceans and biosphere,” WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said in a statement. “Climate change is taking place before our eyes and will continue to do so as a result of the concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which have risen constantly and again reached new records.” “Naturally occurring climate variability due to phenomena such as El Nino and La Nina impact on temperatures and precipitation on a seasonal to annual scale,” said Jarraud. “But they do not alter the underlying long-term trend of rising temperatures due to climate change as a result of human activities.”

Record High Temperatures of 2012 | The Heat Index
LiveScience
22 August 2012

June Heat Wave Broke 3,215 Temperature Records


Brutal July heat a new U.S. record
CNN

What Cornfields Show, Data Now Confirm: July Set Mark as U.S.’s Hottest Month
The New York Times
By JOANNA M. FOSTER
Published: August 8, 2012
(excerpts)
It may come as little surprise to the nation’s corn farmers or resort operators, but the official statistics are in: July was the hottest month in the lower 48 states since the government began keeping temperature records in 1895. The average temperature last month was 77.6 degrees — 3.3 degrees above the average 20th-century temperature, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported on Wednesday. Higher-than-average temperatures gripped much of the country last month, with the biggest departures from the 20th-century average reported across most of the Plains, in the Midwest and along the Eastern Seaboard, the agency’s report said. Virginia had its warmest July on record, with the average temperature four degrees above the norm, it added. A hot July also contributed to the warmest 12-month period ever recorded in the United States, the statistics showed. Climatologists at the agency noted that by the end of the month, about 63 percent of the nation was experiencing drought conditions, which contributed to the high temperatures.

Ummmmm, yeah sure. Turns out those weather stations aren't all that they are supposed to be. I wonder who was responsible for their siting? How you believe we should take you seriously when you ignore studies like this is beyond me. Turnips have more of an intellect than that.



Observations of atmospheric temperature made on the Antarctic Plateau with thermistors housed in naturally (wind) ventilated radiation shields are shown to be significantly warm biased by solar radiation. High incoming solar flux and high surface albedo result in radiation biases in Gill (multiplate)-styled shields that can occasionally exceed 10°C in summer in cases with low wind speed. Although stronger and more frequent when incoming solar radiation is high, biases exceeding 8°C are found even when solar radiation is less than 200 W m−2. Compared with sonic thermometers, which are not affected by radiation but are too complex to be routinely used for mean temperature monitoring, commercially available aspirated shields are shown to efficiently protect thermistor measurements from solar radiation biases. Most of the available in situ reports of atmospheric temperature on the Antarctic Plateau are from automatic weather stations that use passive shields and are thus likely warm biased in the summer. In spite of low power consumption, deploying aspirated shields at remote locations in such a difficult environment may be a challenge. Bias correction formulas are not easily derived and are obviously shield dependent. On the other hand, because of a strong dependence of bias to wind speed, filtering out temperature reports for wind speed less than a given threshold (about 4–6 m s−1 for the shields tested here) may be an efficient way to quality control the data, albeit at the cost of significant data loss and records that are biased toward high wind speed cases.


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[westwall]

hottest year on record...record droughts.....record temps....i wonder what this upcoming year will be like....we should be much colder by now but had early snowfall?

Hi Bones,

No record temps save in the feverish minds of some bad scientists. The UK's Met Office had to finallt admit there has been no warming for the last 16 years. The "record" temps of last year were wholly manufactured by Hansen and Co.

The reality was far different.

Idiot!

March 2012 - Warmest Ever

So long as as they are using biased data...no it isn't. I don't care how much you whine and snivel a good scientist will only use good data. This data is crap for many reasons all reported on by NOAA and in a peer reviewed study so sorry for you but it is a FACT that the weather station data sucks.

Live with it.

 

[whitehall]

"Never let a crisis go to waste"...a democrat party official.

 

[SSDD]

"Never let a crisis go to waste"...a democrat party official.

and if they don't have one lying about, the AGW "crisis" is proof positive that they are dishonest enough to manufacture one.

 

[RollingThunder]

Hi Bones,

No record temps save in the feverish minds of some bad scientists. The UK's Met Office had to finallt admit there has been no warming for the last 16 years. The "record" temps of last year were wholly manufactured by Hansen and Co.

The reality was far different.

Idiot!

March 2012 - Warmest Ever

So long as as they are using biased data...no it isn't. I don't care how much you whine and snivel a good scientist will only use good data. This data is crap for many reasons all reported on by NOAA and in a peer reviewed study so sorry for you but it is a FACT that the weather station data sucks.

Live with it.

LOLOLOLOL.....I see you're still trying to peddle your delusional drivel to the ignorant and unwary.....too bad for you but people are catching on to the deceptions of you denier cult dingbats as the evidence right before their eyes multiplies.....nobody is buying your BS any more, walleyed, so "live with it".

Claims of Flawed Weather Data Don't Change Global Warming: Scientists
Yahoo News
By Wynne Parry, LiveScience Senior Writer
Wed, Aug 1, 2012
(excerpts)
A new analysis, released online by former TV meteorologist, climate-change skeptic and blogger, Anthony Watts, suggests many of these stations are collecting inaccurate records. Add statistical fiddling by climatologists, and the result is an artificial doubling of the rate of warming for the lower 48 U.S. states over the past 30 year years, he and colleagues write. However, climate research has shown that the planet, including the United States, is heating up significantly. Data from the U.S. National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) shows the lower 48 have warmed by 0.58 degrees Fahrenheit (0.32 degrees Celsius) per decade between 1979 and 2008. A representative of NOAA acknowledged that challenges exist to collecting historical weather data, but said these don't invalidate the changes in temperature seen over time. Other climate scientists pointed out that the study had not been vetted by other scientists, and said it was receiving undue attention. Watts' research was released earlier this week, as was another analysis, headed by University of California at Berkeley physicist Richard Muller, which came to the opposite conclusion. Muller's group traced warming back to 1753 and found it closely correlated with carbon dioxide, the principal greenhouse gas, indicating humans are the primary cause.

Even so, by challenging NOAA's warming rate, Watts touches on some important, and well-known, issues for temperature data, said Thomas Peterson, principal scientist at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). That said, U.S. weather records capture an image of temperature trends that is "quite accurate," Peterson said. At this point, temperature readings alone aren't necessary to validate climate change, since seasonal events like flower blooms and bird migrations are shifting, Peterson said. "If we did not have any thermometers here on the planet, we would know darn well that it is warming because of all these other indicators." [10 Surprising Results of Global Warming]

In a previous survey, Watts found numerous problems with the placement of the monitoring stations, and a U.S. Government Accountability Report, published a year ago, found 42 percent of stations did not meet at least one standard regarding their location, such as being too close to extensive paved surfaces or obstructions such as buildings or trees. However, a study published in 2010 by NCDC researchers in response to these concerns, found no evidence that the temperature trend was inflated as a result, and other work has come to similar conclusions, Gavin Schmidt, a climate scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, told LiveScience in an email. "This is of course not the answer that Watts et al want to hear, and so they keep talking about it as if this work doesn't exist," Schmidt wrote. The controversy extends to a statistical process, called homogenization, which climate scientists use to correct for bias in the data, which Watts' analysis says further inflates the warming trend. However, the homogenization methods used by NCDC have been heavily reviewed and ranked among the best internationally, according to Peterson.

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

 

[Old Rocks]

Hi Bones,

No record temps save in the feverish minds of some bad scientists. The UK's Met Office had to finallt admit there has been no warming for the last 16 years. The "record" temps of last year were wholly manufactured by Hansen and Co.

The reality was far different.

Still trying to peddle your BS to the gullible, eh walleyedretard? You poor delusional crackpot. The UK's Met Office did not say that there has been no warming for the last 16 years. That's another denier cult lie. Why do keep on repeating these totally debunked denier cult myths. BTW, you are far too brainwashed and retarded to have any clue as to what "the reality" of the situation actually is, as you have conclusively demonstrated times without number.

U.S. Heads for Warmest Year Recorded in Lower 48 States
Bloomberg
By Alex Morales
Nov 28, 2012
(excerpts)
The U.S. is about to register the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, and the world its ninth-hottest, a United Nations agency said in a report, adding new urgency to the quest to control global warming. Two-thirds of the U.S. states suffered drought this year, while heat waves hit across Europe and in Morocco, Jordan, China and Russia, the World Meteorological Organization said in a report released in Doha, where UN climate talks began this week. It noted Arctic sea ice shrank to its smallest on record. “The alarming rate of its melt this year highlighted the far reaching changes taking place on Earth’s oceans and biosphere,” WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said in a statement. “Climate change is taking place before our eyes and will continue to do so as a result of the concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which have risen constantly and again reached new records.” “Naturally occurring climate variability due to phenomena such as El Nino and La Nina impact on temperatures and precipitation on a seasonal to annual scale,” said Jarraud. “But they do not alter the underlying long-term trend of rising temperatures due to climate change as a result of human activities.”

Record High Temperatures of 2012 | The Heat Index
LiveScience
22 August 2012

June Heat Wave Broke 3,215 Temperature Records


Brutal July heat a new U.S. record
CNN

What Cornfields Show, Data Now Confirm: July Set Mark as U.S.’s Hottest Month
The New York Times
By JOANNA M. FOSTER
Published: August 8, 2012
(excerpts)
It may come as little surprise to the nation’s corn farmers or resort operators, but the official statistics are in: July was the hottest month in the lower 48 states since the government began keeping temperature records in 1895. The average temperature last month was 77.6 degrees — 3.3 degrees above the average 20th-century temperature, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported on Wednesday. Higher-than-average temperatures gripped much of the country last month, with the biggest departures from the 20th-century average reported across most of the Plains, in the Midwest and along the Eastern Seaboard, the agency’s report said. Virginia had its warmest July on record, with the average temperature four degrees above the norm, it added. A hot July also contributed to the warmest 12-month period ever recorded in the United States, the statistics showed. Climatologists at the agency noted that by the end of the month, about 63 percent of the nation was experiencing drought conditions, which contributed to the high temperatures.

Ummmmm, yeah sure. Turns out those weather stations aren't all that they are supposed to be. I wonder who was responsible for their siting? How you believe we should take you seriously when you ignore studies like this is beyond me. Turnips have more of an intellect than that.



Observations of atmospheric temperature made on the Antarctic Plateau with thermistors housed in naturally (wind) ventilated radiation shields are shown to be significantly warm biased by solar radiation. High incoming solar flux and high surface albedo result in radiation biases in Gill (multiplate)-styled shields that can occasionally exceed 10°C in summer in cases with low wind speed. Although stronger and more frequent when incoming solar radiation is high, biases exceeding 8°C are found even when solar radiation is less than 200 W m−2. Compared with sonic thermometers, which are not affected by radiation but are too complex to be routinely used for mean temperature monitoring, commercially available aspirated shields are shown to efficiently protect thermistor measurements from solar radiation biases. Most of the available in situ reports of atmospheric temperature on the Antarctic Plateau are from automatic weather stations that use passive shields and are thus likely warm biased in the summer. In spite of low power consumption, deploying aspirated shields at remote locations in such a difficult environment may be a challenge. Bias correction formulas are not easily derived and are obviously shield dependent. On the other hand, because of a strong dependence of bias to wind speed, filtering out temperature reports for wind speed less than a given threshold (about 4–6 m s−1 for the shields tested here) may be an efficient way to quality control the data, albeit at the cost of significant data loss and records that are biased toward high wind speed cases.


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Walleyes, you are getting to be a regular fucking idiot. The temperatures were taken all across the US in March by individuals, county officials, states officials, as well as Federal agencies. In many places they broke records, not by a degree or two, but by tens of degrees.

Amazing Stats from the March 2012 'Heat Wave'

The gap, in degrees, between the old and new record high on March 21 in Marquette, Mich. The new record high was 81 degrees, obliterating the old record of 49 degrees. The margin of defeat was so great that the low temperature that day was even higher than the old record high temperature.

The 2012 Heat Wave: "Almost Like Science Fiction" | Popular Science

This past Wednesday broke records all across the Midwest and Northeast. Some stats:

Chicago has broken high temperature records for nine days in a row--though today is likely to end that streak. The temperature in Chicago this week has been sometimes 30 degrees higher than the average--more similar to June weather than March.

Many Canadian cities including Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Quebec City, St. John, Windsor, Hamilton, and London, all broke high-temperature records on Wednesday. St. John's high of 25.4°C (78°F) was higher than any recorded temperature in April.

The low temperatures in Marquette, MI and Mt. Washington, NH, was higher than the record high temperature in the past.

Lake Michigan has a water temperature closer to average June readings than March, reaching into the mid-50s in the middle of the lake.

 

[Old Rocks]

"Never let a crisis go to waste"...a democrat party official.

and if they don't have one lying about, the AGW "crisis" is proof positive that they are dishonest enough to manufacture one.

Yeah, sure. And Romney won the election, also.

 

[Old Rocks]

Colorado: Fern Lake Fire flares up; 583 homes in Estes Park area evacuated « Summit County Citizens Voice

 

[Old Rocks]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

 

[westwall]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

What a doofus.

2004 Taylor Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2009 Rainbelt Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Eagle Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

1997 Inowak Fire Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Solstice Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Boundary Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska. Features, reviews, ratings.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

What a doofus.

2004 Taylor Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2009 Rainbelt Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Eagle Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

1997 Inowak Fire Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Solstice Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Boundary Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska. Features, reviews, ratings.

Well, dumb fuck, as usual, you totally missed my meaning. Fighting a fire with 30 to 45 mile an hour winds, with gusts to 60 mph at 10 to 20 degrees.

Every fight forest fires, silly ass? Frostbite is not usually something you have to worry about.

 

[jan]

Well...shoot y'all!!! What do you all expect when we only have 17 days left before the end of the world??!?!??

Professor explains 2012 Mayan doomsday prophecy - The Oracle: University of South Florida

 

[RollingThunder]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

LOLOLOLOLOL......LSHIPMP......oh walleyed...have you switched sides and are now presenting evidence for the effects of global warming....or do you somehow now imagine that global warming just started yesterday? I mean, why are you citing all of those forest fires "in the last 10 years in Alaska"? What is that - pre-industrial times? Tell me, in your private little denier cult bizarro-world, when exactly did the Arctic start to warm up and the permafrost start melting and the sea ice cap start to melt away at unprecedented speeds? Last year? Never? Every year since the end of the last ice age? Or are you delusional goofballs still holding on to some myth that the Arctic sea ice cover has not really melted to its lowest extent and volume in recorded history or that the Greenland ice sheet is not, in fact, melting at rapidly increasing rates and adding to sea level rise? So, let's say Alaska, for example, is getting warmer and dryer as a result of AGW and is maybe more vulnerable to fires and so you cite a lot of Alaskan wild fires in the last ten years to prove.....what exactly????

You are just tooooooo funny for words sometimes, my little reality-challenged & very befuddled playmate.

 

[RollingThunder]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.


MATANUSKA VALLEY-

If the smoke rolled their way, that ol' 'Matanuska Mist' might make it a tad interesting for the firefighters....be sad to see it all go up in smoke....at least in that way...lol....


But yeah, more seriously, high winds and wildfires and not a good mix for the firefighters.

 

[westwall]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

What a doofus.

2004 Taylor Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2009 Rainbelt Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Eagle Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

1997 Inowak Fire Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Solstice Complex Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska

2004 Boundary Wildfire - Famous Wildfires, Alaska. Features, reviews, ratings.

Well, dumb fuck, as usual, you totally missed my meaning. Fighting a fire with 30 to 45 mile an hour winds, with gusts to 60 mph at 10 to 20 degrees.

Every fight forest fires, silly ass? Frostbite is not usually something you have to worry about.

Yes, I have. I worked as a Hot Shot with Los Padres for a few years when i was younger.
How the hell do you think firestorms brew up nimrod. Fire mixed with WIND equals a firestorm. They are never fun...and they happen all the damn time. Something you clowns are trying to ascribe to global warming as usual.

 

[westwall]

Now that would be a totally insane fire to fight were it to happen.

National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ANCHORAGE AK
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

AKZ111-040100-
/X.CON.PAFC.FW.W.0009.000000T0000Z-121204T0100Z/
MATANUSKA VALLEY-
506 AM AKST MON DEC 3 2012

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON FOR STRONG WIND AND LOW HUMIDITY ACROSS THE MATANUSKA
VALLEY...

A RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM AKST THIS
AFTERNOON.

* 20 FT WINDS...NORTHEAST 30 TO 45 MPH. GUSTS TO 60 MPH DURING THE
MORNING.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...AS LOW AS 15 PERCENT.

* TEMPERATURES...10 TO 20 ABOVE ZERO.

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

LOLOLOLOLOL......LSHIPMP......oh walleyed...have you switched sides and are now presenting evidence for the effects of global warming....or do you somehow now imagine that global warming just started yesterday? I mean, why are you citing all of those forest fires "in the last 10 years in Alaska"? What is that - pre-industrial times? Tell me, in your private little denier cult bizarro-world, when exactly did the Arctic start to warm up and the permafrost start melting and the sea ice cap start to melt away at unprecedented speeds? Last year? Never? Every year since the end of the last ice age? Or are you delusional goofballs still holding on to some myth that the Arctic sea ice cover has not really melted to its lowest extent and volume in recorded history or that the Greenland ice sheet is not, in fact, melting at rapidly increasing rates and adding to sea level rise? So, let's say Alaska, for example, is getting warmer and dryer as a result of AGW and is maybe more vulnerable to fires and so you cite a lot of Alaskan wild fires in the last ten years to prove.....what exactly????

You are just tooooooo funny for words sometimes, my little reality-challenged & very befuddled playmate.

No dummy. I am ppinting out that wildfires occur all the damned time and have done so for so long that in southern California they are ESSENTIAL to the life cycles of many of the native flora...that's plants for you un-educated types.

That means dumb ass, that if you have no wildfires in California you have no native plant species anymore. Got it? I didn't think so.

 

[RollingThunder]

Oh, yes of course....Alaska NEVER has wildfires Below are just a FEW of the fires that have occured in the last 10 years in Alaska. Over 4 MILLION acres.

LOLOLOLOLOL......LSHIPMP......oh walleyed...have you switched sides and are now presenting evidence for the effects of global warming....or do you somehow now imagine that global warming just started yesterday? I mean, why are you citing all of those forest fires "in the last 10 years in Alaska"? What is that - pre-industrial times? Tell me, in your private little denier cult bizarro-world, when exactly did the Arctic start to warm up and the permafrost start melting and the sea ice cap start to melt away at unprecedented speeds? Last year? Never? Every year since the end of the last ice age? Or are you delusional goofballs still holding on to some myth that the Arctic sea ice cover has not really melted to its lowest extent and volume in recorded history or that the Greenland ice sheet is not, in fact, melting at rapidly increasing rates and adding to sea level rise? So, let's say Alaska, for example, is getting warmer and dryer as a result of AGW and is maybe more vulnerable to fires and so you cite a lot of Alaskan wild fires in the last ten years to prove.....what exactly????

You are just tooooooo funny for words sometimes, my little reality-challenged & very befuddled playmate.

No dummy. I am ppinting out that wildfires occur all the damned time and have done so for so long that in southern California they are ESSENTIAL to the life cycles of many of the native flora...that's plants for you un-educated types.

That means dumb ass, that if you have no wildfires in California you have no native plant species anymore. Got it? I didn't think so.

Damn dude, do you just love playing with yourself? Do you set up 'straw-man' arguments deliberately or are you just too stupid to understand what everyone is talking about. Who ever said that there weren't supposed to be any wildfires? Try to keep up with the actual debate, little retard. The topic being discussed is the increase in the number and severity of wildfires in recent years as global warming dries out large parts of our country.

Wildfires
California Fire Science Consortium
July 27, 2012
(This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License. You are free: to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work)

A Climate Central article about the 2011 fire season noted that "major wildfires require several factors to come together," and that wildfires are strongly influenced by regional climate conditions, which in turn are influenced by global warming driven by greenhouse gas emissions:

As with most extreme weather and climate events, and their related impacts, major wildfires require several factors to come together in order [to] occur -- typically some combination of dry and windy weather, abundant and dry vegetation, and a spark, which can range from a carelessly tossed cigarette to a lightning strike.

Wildfires are a naturally occurring phenomenon closely tied to climate conditions, and as the world warms in response to rising amounts of greenhouse gases in the air, many studies show that wildfire frequency and severity will likely shift as well.

Historical variations in climate can explain much of the large year-to-year and decade-to-decade variations in Western US fire activity. Thus, climate change is already increasing wildfire activity in the Western US. This may seem surprising, given the number of other factors (including forest management practices) that are known to affect fire activity. [Climate Central, 6/21/11]​

Major Climate Report: "Wildfires in the United States Are Already Increasing Due To Warming". In a comprehensive report commissioned by the Bush administration and released in June 2009, the U.S. Global Change Research Program said earlier snowmelt and drying of soils and plants have worsened wildfires in Western states:

Wildfires in the United States are already increasing due to warming. In the West, there has been a nearly fourfold increase in large wildfires in recent decades, with greater fire frequency, longer fire durations, and longer wildfire seasons. This increase is strongly associated with increased spring and summer temperatures and earlier spring snowmelt, which have caused drying of soils and vegetation. [U.S. Global Change Research Program, 6/16/09]​

The report included the following chart showing that the number of acres burned per fire has increased significantly since the 1980s:

A 2010 National Research Council report summarizing the state of climate science also stated that "the length of the fire season has expanded by 2.5 months":

Large and long-duration forest fires have increased fourfold over the past 30 years in the American West; the length of the fire season has expanded by 2.5 months; and the size of wildfires has increased several-fold. Recent research indicates that earlier snowmelt, temperature changes, and drought associated with climate change are important contributors to this increase in forest fire. [National Research Council, 5/19/10]​

National Research Council: Warming Expected To Expand Area Burned By Wildfires In Western North America. In a 2010 report, the National Research Council said that "for warming levels of 1°C to 2°C, the area burned by wildfire in parts of western North America is expected to increase by 2 to 4 times for each degree (°C) of global warming." Particularly vulnerable areas "include the Pacific Northwest and forested regions of the Rockies and the Sierra," according to the report, which also included the following map showing projected increases in "area burned for a 1°C increase in global average temperature" relative to the median annual area burned from 1950-2003.

Warming Has Boosted Tree-Killing Beetles, Adding Fuel For Fires. A National Academies website notes that the warming trend has boosted the population of bark beetles that kill trees in western forests:

This increase in wildfire is a legacy of both a changing climate and decades of total fire suppression that has resulted in a buildup of dead fuels. One important factor is drought. Wintertime precipitation is increasingly falling as rain instead of snow, and the snow that does accumulate is melting earlier in the spring--decreasing the amount of water available in the late summer months and contributing to longer and more intense droughts. Compounding the effects of these droughts is the increased susceptibility of drought-stressed trees to attacking insects. In the last decade, a bark beetle epidemic has exploded across 18,000 square miles of western mountain forests. Milder winter temperatures kill fewer beetles in their budworm phase than the colder winters of the past, helping to increase the bark beetle population, with devastating effects. As the beetles kill vast areas of forest, they leave standing dead wood, fueling even larger wildfires. [National Academies, accessed 6/28/12]​

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

 

[westwall]

LOLOLOLOLOL......LSHIPMP......oh walleyed...have you switched sides and are now presenting evidence for the effects of global warming....or do you somehow now imagine that global warming just started yesterday? I mean, why are you citing all of those forest fires "in the last 10 years in Alaska"? What is that - pre-industrial times? Tell me, in your private little denier cult bizarro-world, when exactly did the Arctic start to warm up and the permafrost start melting and the sea ice cap start to melt away at unprecedented speeds? Last year? Never? Every year since the end of the last ice age? Or are you delusional goofballs still holding on to some myth that the Arctic sea ice cover has not really melted to its lowest extent and volume in recorded history or that the Greenland ice sheet is not, in fact, melting at rapidly increasing rates and adding to sea level rise? So, let's say Alaska, for example, is getting warmer and dryer as a result of AGW and is maybe more vulnerable to fires and so you cite a lot of Alaskan wild fires in the last ten years to prove.....what exactly????

You are just tooooooo funny for words sometimes, my little reality-challenged & very befuddled playmate.

No dummy. I am ppinting out that wildfires occur all the damned time and have done so for so long that in southern California they are ESSENTIAL to the life cycles of many of the native flora...that's plants for you un-educated types.

That means dumb ass, that if you have no wildfires in California you have no native plant species anymore. Got it? I didn't think so.

Damn dude, do you just love playing with yourself? Do you set up 'straw-man' arguments deliberately or are you just too stupid to understand what everyone is talking about. Who ever said that there weren't supposed to be any wildfires? Try to keep up with the actual debate, little retard. The topic being discussed is the increase in the number and severity of wildfires in recent years as global warming dries out large parts of our country.

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A Climate Central article about the 2011 fire season noted that "major wildfires require several factors to come together," and that wildfires are strongly influenced by regional climate conditions, which in turn are influenced by global warming driven by greenhouse gas emissions:

As with most extreme weather and climate events, and their related impacts, major wildfires require several factors to come together in order [to] occur -- typically some combination of dry and windy weather, abundant and dry vegetation, and a spark, which can range from a carelessly tossed cigarette to a lightning strike.

Wildfires are a naturally occurring phenomenon closely tied to climate conditions, and as the world warms in response to rising amounts of greenhouse gases in the air, many studies show that wildfire frequency and severity will likely shift as well.

Historical variations in climate can explain much of the large year-to-year and decade-to-decade variations in Western US fire activity. Thus, climate change is already increasing wildfire activity in the Western US. This may seem surprising, given the number of other factors (including forest management practices) that are known to affect fire activity. [Climate Central, 6/21/11]​

Major Climate Report: "Wildfires in the United States Are Already Increasing Due To Warming". In a comprehensive report commissioned by the Bush administration and released in June 2009, the U.S. Global Change Research Program said earlier snowmelt and drying of soils and plants have worsened wildfires in Western states:

Wildfires in the United States are already increasing due to warming. In the West, there has been a nearly fourfold increase in large wildfires in recent decades, with greater fire frequency, longer fire durations, and longer wildfire seasons. This increase is strongly associated with increased spring and summer temperatures and earlier spring snowmelt, which have caused drying of soils and vegetation. [U.S. Global Change Research Program, 6/16/09]​

The report included the following chart showing that the number of acres burned per fire has increased significantly since the 1980s:

A 2010 National Research Council report summarizing the state of climate science also stated that "the length of the fire season has expanded by 2.5 months":

Large and long-duration forest fires have increased fourfold over the past 30 years in the American West; the length of the fire season has expanded by 2.5 months; and the size of wildfires has increased several-fold. Recent research indicates that earlier snowmelt, temperature changes, and drought associated with climate change are important contributors to this increase in forest fire. [National Research Council, 5/19/10]​

National Research Council: Warming Expected To Expand Area Burned By Wildfires In Western North America. In a 2010 report, the National Research Council said that "for warming levels of 1°C to 2°C, the area burned by wildfire in parts of western North America is expected to increase by 2 to 4 times for each degree (°C) of global warming." Particularly vulnerable areas "include the Pacific Northwest and forested regions of the Rockies and the Sierra," according to the report, which also included the following map showing projected increases in "area burned for a 1°C increase in global average temperature" relative to the median annual area burned from 1950-2003.

Warming Has Boosted Tree-Killing Beetles, Adding Fuel For Fires. A National Academies website notes that the warming trend has boosted the population of bark beetles that kill trees in western forests:

This increase in wildfire is a legacy of both a changing climate and decades of total fire suppression that has resulted in a buildup of dead fuels. One important factor is drought. Wintertime precipitation is increasingly falling as rain instead of snow, and the snow that does accumulate is melting earlier in the spring--decreasing the amount of water available in the late summer months and contributing to longer and more intense droughts. Compounding the effects of these droughts is the increased susceptibility of drought-stressed trees to attacking insects. In the last decade, a bark beetle epidemic has exploded across 18,000 square miles of western mountain forests. Milder winter temperatures kill fewer beetles in their budworm phase than the colder winters of the past, helping to increase the bark beetle population, with devastating effects. As the beetles kill vast areas of forest, they leave standing dead wood, fueling even larger wildfires. [National Academies, accessed 6/28/12]​

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

Geee, I wonder why they don't compare the wildffire ratio from the last 50 years? Maybe because it would flatten that little ol graph right out. But once again that would be factual and you guys don't do facts...you do propaganda.

 

[Old Rocks]

If ol' Walleyes cannot find a link, he will just make something up.

It is still laughable that he is so totally into trying to deny all aspects of AGW that the obvious conclusion of my post, fighting a major wind driven fire at 10 or 20 degrees would truly be a bitch completely eluded him. And the other fire I posted about was in Colorado, not California.